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    P-6831Fx possible mobo failure?

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by snakeofsolid, Feb 16, 2012.

  1. snakeofsolid

    snakeofsolid Notebook Geek

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    I was using my laptop and one day the screen went black while I was playing Rage. The LCD's backlight was still on, and the audio continued, but I couldn't do anything past that. So I forced it off by holding the power button. Upon attempting to restart it, the screen does not turn on at all, the hard drive makes no noise, the fan makes a quick noise when I press the power button, but that is it. The LEDs do turn on however, the power and media buttons LED. I tried connecting it to an external display through HDMI to no avail. Is it possible that this laptops motherboard has bit the dust, or is could this be another problem that I could possibly repair myself?
     
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    ckwbff Notebook Enthusiast

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    Try unplugging the battery and power cord, and holding down the power button for 20 seconds. Then plug it back in and see what happens.
     
  3. snakeofsolid

    snakeofsolid Notebook Geek

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    Ahh that was actually the first thing I tried, guess I should have mentioned that.
     
  4. snakeofsolid

    snakeofsolid Notebook Geek

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    I'm not quite sure what the problem could be, I've taken it apart completely but I don't even know how to narrow down where the problem lies, All I know is that the LEDs on the media bar and power button are functional, and the fans may turn on intermittently, it could be the GPU, CPU, or the motherboard entirely. I doubt its the inverter, if that were the case I'm sure I would hear boot up noises like normal. Anybody know of a way to troubleshoot this?
     
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    antonpetr Notebook Guru

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    probably nvidia gpu chip went bad, it's the typical issue with most nvidia chips of those years. you can either bake it or have it reflowed, reballed or completely replaced, like I did. but that's one of the possible issues to my guess.
     
  6. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    99 out of 100 times with the GTS 8800's it is the GPU relow issue with the black screens...............
     
  7. snakeofsolid

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    I wouldn't be against baking at this point, but how can I narrow down if the GPU or motherboard is shot?
     
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    antonpetr Notebook Guru

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    gpu failure signs vary... the one you described in your first post could definitely be of GPU chip unsoldered or exfoliated
     
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    It isn't that they are unsoldered but the solder joints become cold. In other words the solder itelf has too low a melting threshold and oxidizes from partial melting and cooling. This is why the temp fix was just to keep the GPU hot to delay the breakdown.

    Baking brings the solder to full melting temp and with a proper cool down reconnects the joints. The problem is there is still some leftover oxidation and the GPU still goes through those cycles of partial melt and cool down. Constant rebakes can get the system back but with deminishing returns as the oxidation in the solder builds.............
     
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    antonpetr Notebook Guru

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    that's what I meant..
    but it's only the half of the problem.
    in many cases the chip itself gets exfoliated off the laminate
    [​IMG]
     
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    first time I have seen a chip destroy itself so thoroughly.............
     
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    Tan: Do you think that possibly the Thermal paste was all burn own by the time
     
  13. snakeofsolid

    snakeofsolid Notebook Geek

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    Well I got someone to look at it. Its most certainly the motherboard. It looks like it would cost 200-400 to replace it(the part is just that expensive). I guess its time to move on and save up for a new laptop. Think I will avoid the gateway line though. I had to get it repaired once within a year of purchase, and now the mobo is fried.