P-6860FX Temperatures

Ok, now that I've changed my CPU to a T9300, I've been doing a little reading here about temperatures, and I want to make sure I'm okay with the temps in my 6860. When I'm just messing around on the laptop, the CPU temperatures fluctuate between 34 to 44 degrees (Keep in mind I changed the CPU yesterday, so the Arctic 5 is still "breaking" itself in), and its usually between 38 and 42 when i check. My GPU idles at 45 to 46 and doesn't vary between those 2 numbers really.

Now, I just played Crysis for a little over an hour, with A LOT of action and a cut scene. I had the settings at high with 4x AA. The CPU maxed at (Core0 55, Core1 59) and the GPU maxed at 79. The game didn't shut down or anything and it ran great (which surprised me with the 4x AA). I'm just worried that my temps are out of whack. One other thing- My house is hot- I have no AC, and it's probably around 85 degrees F.

So what do you all think?

 

Geez!! Thats one hot room.

It is safe to assume that your room temperature is playing a decent role on your temp results. Do you have any breeze going?

 

Tell me about it! My family and I are ready to melt! I do have an industrial fan going, but it's away from my laptop, as the way my house is configured, if I were to point the fan at me while on the laptop, it's blow right at the exhaust vent on the left side of the laptop which would definitely blow back into it which is obviously very, VERY bad!

 

Not sure if this would help out, but check this thread out about undervolting 6860 processor.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=267636

 

UV'ing definitely helps. not for the gpu, but cpu temps at least. i went from idling (on the T9300) at 34-35C to right around 25C idle. it is a great way to cool the cpu off while still retaining all the processing power.

 

AS5 application, rather than stock gunk helps too. But seeing as you already have that, an NC200 might help lower your temps a bit.

 

your temps are just fine,
if you take into account your room temp, the laptop cooling system does hella of a job.

your cpu can reach 100c with no issues and the gpu can go even further.
(not to say they should)
i wouldn't worry at all.

just use the "magic trick" of lifting the far end of the laptop by an inch or so using a book or anything else without covering the air inlets.

 

Thanks for all the responses. I was thinking of UVing, but I'm still on the fence with it. Either way, at least now I don't feel like I have much to worry about.

 

still on the fence, eh? it doesnt harm your computer hardware at all, makes the system run a lot cooler (i dropped 10C off my max temp, and about 7-10C off my idle temps)

i would undervolt.

 

do not listen to royk..... that is a huge misconception.... and will damage you notebook if you believe that statement.

Please visit the NBR Cooling Central.

We covered safe and dangerous temps there.

 

lol
so even if one only believes already his laptop will be damaged - lmao

anyway from your guide:

how does that different from what i say ?

not to mention that not all cpus have same tjunction temp nor does all gpus have same max temp.
if while gaming cpu and gpu hit max temp of 80/80 you say the system is malfunctioning ?

now if you can point me to a single person who has fried his c2d i would appreciate it very much.

thank you for a good laugh

 

threshold temps are not what you want to focus on... its the danger temps.

if you exceed danger temps, it will permanently damage the components.

GPUs should NOT and CANNOT work stable over 95C degrees, while you implied that they can be used over 100C.... which is not a good thing to say.

 

sorry that not what i meant

i was talking about max temp
if a cpu can get to 105 before throtteling (not before damaging itself)
it can be used safely on 75-85 while gaming
as to gpu your "danger zone" is stated 90-95 if my gpu would stay around 85 i would be worried, since usually it never goes above 68.

while we are at it, where did you get the "danger zone" data for cpus ?

 

the danger zones for CPUs are standard ever since the early days of the x86 CPUs.

the specifications may say 100C... but that is threshold.

CPUs are not supposed to exceed 80C for full load... or it will downclock to prevent overheating damage.

If you want to try it on your system, you will find that your system might even shut itself off even before hitting 80C (its all low-level programming)

 

sorry that is simply not true.

that is one big misconception you selling here, when i first installed my cpu, i ran a torture test and it was running over 90c without throtteling downclocking nor shutting down, moreover i get 84c while running CoH every other day.
never throtteling, downclocking, shutting down or bsod.

you just making things up here, if you think that 45nm processors and the old 386 processors had same tjunction well...

i stop here, this is clearly not developing into a serious discussion.
thank you for your time.

 

Thanks for the link. I'm definitely gonna read it. I've noticed today that my CPU idle temps are 36 C which I believe has to do with the Arctic 5 breaking in as well as the fact my house is not quite as hot as it has been the last 4 days. I'll have to figure out whether I need to worry about my GPU. I'm gonna possibly UV as well, as long as I'm totally confident I'm not gonna brick my laptop!

 

When you think about it, undervolting your CPU probably isn't the smartest idea when you think about it. When you undervolt it that will cause your CPU to draw more amps (more current). Voltage and amperage are inversely proportionate. As your CPU draws more amps and the current increase you risk frying your CPU.
This is just what I know about electricity. Maybe I'm wrong.

 

Not to sidetrack from the topic, but what temps are you guy getting for the Hard drive disk (HDD) on the 6860/6831/6850?

Mine idles at 38-45C. When gaming: 50-53C. That seems too close the danger zone for HDD. I have the laptop lifted 1 inch from the table. I am using HWMonitor.

 

thats pretty normal for the 320 WDs it was always my one complaint but i did some research and looked on new egg when they had it for sale to look at reviews, i think bestbuy had some as well and pretty much the majority of people said these harddrives run hot . i have seen mine hit 59 before
i put 2 200gig 7200rpm drives in the other day and they ran much cooler but pulled them last night and returned them today after giving some serious thought to the performance/price/size ratio and just decided to deal with the heat of this for now till i see some more reviews on the 320 7200rpms that are out now.

 

I thought they were only inversely proportional assuming the wattage output remained constant. P=IV. If voltage goes down and current stays the same or decreases, power goes down.

 

as to hard drives temp,

"A common misconception is that a colder hard drive will last longer than a hotter hard drive. The Google study showed the reverse -- "lower temperatures are associated with higher failure rates". Hard drives with S.M.A.R.T.-reported average temperatures below 27 C had failure rates worse than hard drives with the highest reported average temperature of 50 C, failure rates at least twice as high as the optimum S.M.A.R.T.-reported temperature range of 36 C to 47 C."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_drive#Disk_failures_and_their_metrics

the google reaserch on hard drives failure :

http://labs.google.com/papers/disk_failures.pdf

the "danger zone" on hard drive is made up term just like the other "danger zones" in that guide.

i would be very happy if the writers of that guide would support their "findings" by citing some serious sources.

 

well, consider the fact that your hard drive runs at 5400 revolutions per minute, that's 90 revolutions per sec, and it doesn't have any cooling device.
mine reaches 50 after 5 hours of gaming, and it doesn't cool down at all lol