P-7811FX Laptop WoW problems?

When I bought this comptuer, I had expected it to be able to run a game like World of Warcraft maxed out easily, considering the benchmarks and specs I've seen for this computer; however, it s a rare occasion I can hit 60 FPS in this game. And that's with the tier right before highest settings. I don't quite understand how my computer could be doing this poorly at running this game. I benchmarked 417 FPS with the Freestone group video card stability test. Anyone have a solution to this issue?

 

...no help at all? =/

 

Have you tried messing with the NV Control panels and adjust some settings? Is Vertical Sync enabled?

 

Vertical Sync is enabled.

 

You have to disable Vsync to see more then 60fps which you may already know, but it also will make your framerate jump from 60 to 30 if it cant sustain 60. you can enable triple buffering which should help abit if you have to keep Vsync on .
i play games with out vsync because screen tearing does not usually bother me to much and your framerates will be much higher . Give it a shot without vsync off and see how much your framerate go's up.

 

Yes, I do realize it caps the frame rate at 60; however, I never understood the point or reason at having it any higher than that. 60FPS is a beautiful frame rate to be maintained constantly at. Triple buffering is on as well, but I continually see my FPS drop to a nearly constant 30 FPS at times. I was just under the assumption a computer with this capacity could run a game flawlessly which many people claim doesn't require much power. I've tried the custom drivers from the thread, Xfastest's something or other, but when I turn my computer on, it says I'm missing some nsvc.dll (or something similar). I'm new to these forums and to the terminology and such in general.

 

Im getting low fps in WoW as well, I can play Crisis and GRID in High settings and they get better fps than WoW. Its really puzzling me, and starting to tick me off a bit. I have no idea what is causing this, Best fps I've seen was maybe 45 for a second or two in WoW, it usually runs around 20-25 in the cities

 

P, if other games get better frames, then it's not the computer that's the problem with WoW. I'd look for driver issues with WoW - Nvidia has a spotty history with driver quality lately, that's why a lot of people here name the driver version that gives them good performance.

Coby, ^^ what Quad said. I'd test out how it runs without the leg chains (Vsync and triple buffering), then decide if there's an issue worth looking into.

Remember that WoW isn't DX10, so if you're running WoW on Vista, you're running the MS engineers "compatibility" mode for DX9 games, which isn't exactly optimized for speed.

 

The recent patch in WoW killed many add-ons for 2.4. Try going into your interface options and enabling "show .lua errors". You may be getting a large amount of add-on errors which literally destroys your framerate.

 

And yesterday's Nerf-retardins patch killed even more addons that were ok for 3.0

Anyway, FPS dropping to 30 sometime in high pop areas such as Shatt is pretty normal for the FX, i mean my Desktop drops down to the mid 40s sometimes in Shatt, and thats running a Q9450 @ 3.6 and GTX260s in SLI.

 

I just got my 7811 two days ago and just installed wow yesterday and I get ~35FPS around the bank and AH in org and in shatt I probably drop down to ~27FPS in certain places. I didnt install any new nvidia drivers since I first booted it up and I still have all the junk that came with the laptop, ie. Nortan and such. I kind of assumed this was pretty decent for everything being maxed... but then again im coming from a desktop with a P4 processor and ATI X850 graphics card.

 

You should get quite a bit better than that....I consistently above 50fps in Shatt with all settings maxed out. Norton and all the other crapware that Gateway puts on sucks CPU cycles. Also, Download the newest drivers from the sticky above. After that you can overclock your card using Nvidia control panel and get even better FPS.

 

I was getting great fps but I just hit 60 and started questing in the Outlands around Thrallamar or whatever and my fps has gone way way down. Down to like the 40's at times.

 

Just try what I was talking about above. Also make sure you keep the laptop propped up so it doesn't overheat.

 

Ok I did what you said, got the newest drivers and dl'd ntune, but I have no idea how to overclock or how to use ntune. Can you tell me what settings?

 

What level of shadow detail are you guys using? I also see low FPS in cities and raids (< 30fps). I do use the "high detail" macro though for the best look, and it looks amazing when I'm out questing:

/console farclip 777
/console horizonfarclip 2112
/console groundeffectdensity 256
/console groundeffectdist 140
/console smallcull 0
/console skycloudlod 3
/console characterambient

I love the higher ground density in places like STV.

 

I believe the drivers come with the "Nvidia Control Panel" software. If not you can google it and download it. Just go the the "performance" tab and select "device settings." From there you can hit "Custom" under clock speeds and change the clock values.

I chose 700 core, 900 memory, and 1700 shader. I've seen several people with higher overclocks, but you should easily be able to attain those settings.

After you X out of the Control Panel it will ask you if you would like to load the settings at startup.

Goodluck

 

Thanks for the info.

 

Hey, its me again. I was just wondering how much of an effect does overclocking the gpu to those settings have on it? Does it get hotter? Do you think it will end up dying faster? Just want to know what the consequences are before doing it. Thanks.

Edit: Also I just downloaded the latest drivers from laptopvideo2go and I dont really see much of an increase FPS wise. Im still sitting and the same FPS I was at before and after.

Edit2: Do you have vertical sync enbaled or disabled? I dont really see an improvement in performance with it enabled or disabled. Also I found that I get ~5FPS increase when I turn off "Reduce Input Lag" in the resolution tab. Also what multisampling setting are you running on? Thanks!

 

I haven't noticed an increase in temperature. I wouldn't think there would be much temp. increase if any because you're not increasing the voltage. Your video card will last much longer than the useful life of your laptop.

I've had my desktop 8800gt overvolted and overclocked by 30% for the past year and it hasn't skipped a beat.

I disable v-sync and use 2x or 4x multisampling. Also if you want more FPS disable shadows. You can gain around 5-10 FPS and I don't miss the ugly WoW shadows at all.

 

With my GPU overclocked to those settings you posted and vertical sync disabled, shadow disabled, im averaging high 30's low 40's in shat. That sounds like right, right?

 

Does switching shadows to low completely disable them or do I have to do something else?

 

So the settings you listed to overclock are fairly safe?

 

If that's all you guys are getting you need to clean up your system or disable background processes.

Those settings are only a 16% overclock...I don't see any problems running them 24/7.

Switching shadows to low should disable them.

 

Just wondering XNachoX what FPS do you average in populated areas of shatt and org?

 

I would sit in a heavily populated Org at about 47-50 FPS. Same with Shatt. My laptop is in the process of being sold though so I can't check it.

 

Alright cool, thanks for all the help. I guess I just have to clean up my computer and do some tests and what not to obtain better FPS. Thanks for all the help

 

Sure, and remember you can get quite a few more FPS by putting the resolution down to 1680 x 1050.

 

I get a 9000 score on 3dmark06 but get around 55-75 fps sometimes questing in hellfire peninsula, ***.

 

Greetings all. I am not trying to resurrect an old thread, but I want to thank you all for this thread.

I have the Gateway and I love this machine. I was having problems with my frame rates. I was dropping down to the 30's or lower in heavy grassy areas and in rainy territories. I tried some of the suggestions here. I turned shadows off and my frame rates in the grass areas around Crossroads went from 30 to 50 or so. I turned off vsynch and it went up to 100. I will keep playing around with it, but it seems to be the answer or the trail to it.

I have stock drivers. 7.15.11.7580 Dated May of 08.

One thing I did do, is I optimized Vista. I found and online guide and turned off a whole lot of stuff that I did not need. I used the guide here http://tweakhound.com/vista/tweakguide/index.htm and did some stuff on my own.

Thanks again.

 

Some tricks I use for most every game - turn off shadows, turn off specular lighting, and if I'm still not over 50fps, turn down landscape textures 1 notch from super to high.

You know what? The games still look great- you can't really tell the difference, and the FPS gets a big jump.

 

I'd recommend also to uncheck that "reduce interface lag" option
I was getting pretty dire results with that checked, but after unchecking it, FPS shot up and was smooth as hell.

 

I used to have horrible COD4 fps in multiplayer coming from singleplayer.
When I switched up to a 2.5mb connection instead of 1.5Mbps connection, my fps increased dramatically and remained at a constant fps.
Fraps causes problems, so i turn that off

 

A few things:

Install Forceware 180.48 drivers. They have been reported to really help WoW frame rates post patch. The recent WoW patch and WotlK seem to hit Nvidia users pretty hard. Remember to uninstall your old ones, run drive sweeper in safe mode to clean out all the flotsam, reboot and install the new drivers.

Clean out all old mods, delete folder, install new mods. I found years of swapping mods and general use, my config and system was all cluttered.

Northrend is much more graphically complex than the older content and you will take a frame rate hit depending on your hardware. Shadows are the main culprit as is distance. Go with a custom config and max out Texture details, foliage to low, distance and shadows to low and start from there.

 

Hey guys i have the same laptop as the OP, after a few months of really bad problems with FPS getting about 14fps in Dalaran and about 7 on raids... i remembered when i got this laptop it would run hotter than it currently did... ding ding ding! i went to the little battery icon and changed power plan for performance!!!!!!!!! (had it on power saver) i unchecked Vsync... my FPS shot from 33 in org to a wopping 192FPS!!!!!!!!!!!!! god i feel like an idiot!... ohhhh and Nvidia released new drivers for 7,8,9 series on the 19th! hope this helps out!

 

If you play any FPS oriented game, get Forceware drivers, otherwise if your less FPS oriented get Nvidia's latest drivers.

Make sure you find the right forceware drivers you like, for example - you don't always need to get the latest drivers for best FPS, certain older versions work better I don't know why, but I am currently using Forceware 156.something and all my games work just fine.

edit: Make sure you check each forceware's version - some I have seen have been written for certain games in mind specifically, might help you out best.

 

First time I got to ragnaros in Molten Core with a 40 man, I was the primary healer, got him down to 30% health on first try, but in all the action I accidently unplugged my laptop which sent my laptop into power save mode while were in middle of this fight, my laptop goes all to hell, down to 5 fps and stuff since im with all the casters, of course since I can't heal the tank, he dies and we wipe some where around 19%.

 

hmm, the original original stock drivers = the best fit.

 

I noted the 180.48 drivers specifically because they address the frame rate issue in WoW, especially with the Xpac and latest 3.x patch. Nvidia users were experiencing some horrendous frame rates and the 180.48 really helps in many cases.

 

You should probably look into upgrading your Processor.... Crysis and other various games run great due to the utilization of you GPU... inwhich from what I understand.... WoW is mostly CPU dependent..... Once I armed my 6860FX with a T9300 basically everything began screaming.... including WoW (but then again I was playing private servers until Blizzard made them shutdown )

 

Even the P-6831fx runs every game above fine on high settings, even Everquest 2 which is a heavy cpu user. The P-6831fx has the lowest speed cpu running at 1.6ghz prossesor, I would upgrade the cpu eventually, but it is not a must.

 

I understand that.... but when it comes to WoW, literally the best thing he could do to improve his gameplay would be to upgrade the processor (assuming you can afford it)...

 

Agreed, but Everquest 2 is way more of a system hug than WoW, I have ran both, WoW must be coded better, you can run it on almost anything. Even on my custom build desktop, EQ2 brings it to its nees, while the cpu usage in wow was minamal. EQ2 renders much more though the cpu than WoW and a P-6831fx can run EQ2 just fine on high settings. I am the first to want to upgrade slower parts, and with these Laptops its the CPU. I guess what I am saying is, its not a make or break thing reguarding upgradeing the cpu and gameplay in WoW, I envy WoW players, they do not need a majorly fast system to run it. Also Crysis runs fine on high settings on the P-6831FX 1.6 cpu.

 

The thing is running WoW on ths 7811 is a bit more work because of the 1920 X 1200 resolution. Honestly, uncheck the reduce interface lag, lower your shadows, and your WoW should run smooth (minus being in Dalaran or a Raid). Even on my desktop with a GTX260 and Q9450 OCed to 3.8, i lagged out when we were raiding exodus (so sad really, only NPCs ever in that town and i lag out -_-)

 

oh yeah, raids are hard on any system

 

WoW is so old I think any computer today should be able to handle it (graphic wise) plus killing the raids from 40 man to 10 or 5 man really helps those with crappy computers unable to raid.

I remember dude never got to heal a 40 man because he would lag out bad, ended up one of top 3 healers on the server when it went to 5/10 man.

You don't always need your graphics full blast, yeah it might look nice but depends how your computer can handle it, I have no problem toning my graphics down enough so it looks good, but computer runs it fine.

One thing you can do - not sure if you did this or not yet - turn your computer on performance mode - Go to Start/Control Panel
Goto Performance Options - under Visual Effects put windows in
"adjust for performance" option -
Should free up enough for WoW you can full graphic without a problem - I did this, only thing makes your windows look crappy (gives you extra few frames out of it also)

 

really isnt worth doing that to be honest.

 

This is true, and one reason my M-ALX was tortured by EQ2 (with its single Core AMD 2.4ghz).

EQ2, to this day, is a resource monster. (My all powerful Level 40 Priest, heh).

As for WoW, new Xpac does place a higher burden on your system, but shadows to low, terrain and foliage to medium and everything on high and it runs fine on my main desktop (OC'd Quad Core @ 3.2ghz, 4gb, GTX 280, 30" Apple LCD @ 2560x1600).

 

I use EQ2 for the tortur test on all new builds, if it can run on high q, then its worthy. With my level 80 Ranger

 

I have never played Eq, is it worth it?

Did have 4 level 70s for wow, horde side and sold it, after getting full tier 5 finally the lich expansion comes out - all work i did up to this point is GONE.

Getting tired of every few months an expansion comes out and I lost all my time invested.