Got tired of waiting so i took my laptop apart looking for the possible bluetooth module plugin. well i think i found it! thing is im not to savy on posting pictures. first off is anyone interested, and would someone like to post them for me? I have it apart right now so if anyone wants anything specific pictured let me know so i can get that for you.
http://usera.imagecave.com/vwracer69/
That should have what i uploaded.
Also linked here, thanks to "mindstorm"
http://www.zooomr.com/photos/mindstorm/sets/37675/
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I would love to see them. But you can post them here yourself.
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 Actually lots of site features are disabled until you have 5-15 posts. So he might not be able to post them as attachments. What you can do, is go to imageshack.us and upload there, then post links here.
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I use imagecave.com and find it to be a bit faster than the rest.
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Send them to me i'll post [email protected]
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Oh ok I didnt know that.
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ok pictures are at the top. if anyone needs anything else pictured let em know cause i still have it peices.
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Great pics
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Your a brave person having your motherboard all exposed to everything and laying on a fuzzy blanket.
I would be careful of static slagging your notebook.
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Very nice pics! Thanks for the effort!
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@Vwracer69 - If you would give a little order of disassembly we would be interested. Especially if there are some "tricks" involved.
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Your avatar is sexy.
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I was going to disassemble my P-6831, but the doomed 6860 thread made me decide against it, as this is my only computer right now for school, and I am now officially a poor strving University student. (People who go broke going to college are wimps, 9000$ a year?, pffffft.)
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 Thanks but I think I need lip-thick.
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very nice! and now i can see the differences between the 7811 and the 6860. slight changes.
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Great images man. Well done!
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You might want to black out the mac address of the wireless module if you are concerned about security (well that and are paranoid that someone may try to use it). Regarding the wireless module, are there just two antennas as used by the 5100 module or does it have support for 3 (for the intel 5300 module)?
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 What can someone do with a MAC address? The answer is nothing. If you believe people can do anything with it, you're paranoid. Mine in this laptop are 00-15-C5-7F-F4-C8 and 00-1F-3B-BD-27-C9. You know what they are? A random string of hexadecimals. It's like when people block out local IP addresses.
00-FF-56-ED-6D-A1 is a valid MAC and in all likelihood, belongs to someone. Have I just doomed them by posting it? I think not. Don't spread fear inspiring ignorance. - 
 
 
I intended to do a step by step teardown in a couple weeks(maybe less ) when i try to install a bluetooth module in what looks to be a bluetooth plug.
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 Well for a start somebody could decide they dont like XYZ person and have their mac address - they then go download something which will get them in a lot of trouble like kiddy **** with his spoofed MAC address in a public place. The authorities get a warrant from the ISP in question used for said wireless access, track it down to the customer, get another warrant to go through network logs and hey presto your MAC may very well show up dependent on the network in use.
From there it is a small hop skip and a jump to find out exactly which device that MAC was used in from the manufacturer, where it was sold and if the user decided to register the device they might have your name and address.
Sure you wouldn't be able to get charges to stick with just a MAC from network logs but that's really not the point. Point is that disclosing information on the net or anywhere else when you don't have to is generally not a good idea
     
I work for a Telco, being a paranoid git about security is part of my job.
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Whats wrong with GPU thermal paste.
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Very nice, thx for the pics. Please let us know how it goes with the addition to the bluetooth module and which one you decide on adding if you don't go with the factory one.
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 well I was going to say I just black listed you on the corp routers but I will be nice.
NAT changes the IP but keeps the MAC. so really you can do something with it but its not worth the time or the trouble.
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Man, I bet that PLL is nice a clear for all to know.
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Pictures are very good quality, great job man !!
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Finding the PLL would be fantastic.
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very nice pics, unfortunately I don't think I see any connector for internal bluetooth.
The connector that is the closest match would be in img_5978 but it is only 8 pins and the mini connector for the internal bluetooth would be 10 pins, based on the dell bt modules I have dealt with.
If the gateway bletoooth module uses 8 pins, then that may be it, unless something else plugs in there already?
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 I really doubt that you'd be able to get that to work. It would make sense maybe if you connected to that person's wireless with their MAC address spoofed, but really, think about what you're suggesting. Someone connects to random public wifi, the authorities intercept CP, and then trace the MAC address to the owner who likely has a different ISP? Please. You admit yourself that it would never stick.
And again, you're just blacklisting a random MAC address. Even if you targeted me, I could easily just change my MAC address. Like I said before, if I post a random MAC address, am I dooming that person? - 
 
 
Free: You may want to check gateway's site to see what bluetooth modules they use in the older FX laptops and see if you can dig up some specs on it. I doubt it uses the same one as Dell but you never know.
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 Too late, you already got a major dose of it and next time try reading and comprehending what is posted. Note where it says "if you are concerned about security (well that and are paranoid that someone may try to use it)"
If they are not concerned about it and are not an uber tin foil hat wearing person, then they don't need to be concerned about it. If they have set up wireless access based on mac addresses, then technically someone could spoof it and gain access to the network. Is that a big deal, most likely not, but it could be if that was a laptop used for business on a business network. The intent was to let the poster of the images decide for him or herself if it was an issue or not.
You clearly don't as many mac addresses can be used to identify the manufacturer of the device (the IEEE OUI assignments) and are not random.
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wow, thought this was a motherboard picture thread....
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Only the first half of the MAC address is a hardware manufacturer ID. What would you call the rest? If you were to use mathematics to calculate a precise number, to which you added a random integer between 1 and 100, what would you call that? I'd call the result a random number. MAC addresses are obviously not randomly generated or you'd get far too many duplicates, but there is nothing special about a MAC address. If you'd specified perhaps in your first post just how paranoid you have to be to hide a MAC address, then I likely would not have said anything. I just don't want people making much ado about nothing.
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If you all don't stop this thread hijacking I'm going to have to .... well .... tell on you. "Jimmy is hijacking again!!!!"
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Fair enough, I'm done. If anyone has farther grievances we can take it to PM. Apologies for damage already done.
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 Actually it was kind of interesting.
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That a great pic! GPU is soldered onto the motherboard, very interesting choice by Gateway.
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hey...*** is up with this?
     
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 One thing I noticed on my Dell 320 and 350(?) Bluetooth units; they had the antenna traced on the small circuit board. No external antenna needed.
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 Holy shiz! I have NEVER reached a bandwidth limit and I have used imagecave for years! Guess this thread is popular.
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 that's exactly why i downloaded a copy of them...*LOL* these free hosting sites are trying to regulate now a days
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Someone rehost on imageshack, as long as you don't hotlink there is not bandwidth limit.
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I've placed the pics up at http://www.zooomr.com/photos/mindstorm/sets/37675/ and will keep them there if it is okay with Vwracer69.
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I have no problem with thatas long as your trying to help.
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Is there an unused ReadyBoost slot on the motherboard for the Robson module?
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 First picture shows two mini PCI-E slots, one with a wireless module, the other empty. So I'd say yes.
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Yeah, just did my own looking and found it uses a mini-PCIe slot.
For that I'd rather wait for the 8GB Buffalo modules or the Sandisk ones: Link - 
 
Why? Turbo memory has been shown to offer no performance increase in systems with 4GB or more of memory. Why waste the cash?
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The only reason I'd want an MLC PCIe SSD would be for the paging file and one or two choice programs (games).
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Too bad you'd still be forced to have a paging file on your system drive. It would make sense if you installed Windows on it, but most people fail to realize that you have to have a paging file on the system drive no matter what.
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 really? i ran a few systems without a page file. you just need to have allot of memory.
 
P-7811FX Motherboard Pictures
Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by Vwracer69, Sep 14, 2008.