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    P9600 upgrade

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by catttman, Jan 21, 2009.

  1. catttman

    catttman Notebook Consultant

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    Thinking of P9600 for $200. bucks does anyone think I am jumping the gun?
    just keep it as is for a while ?and what should I look for when getting a new cpu
    and any good places in the usa to order from ? $200. one is from HK
    thanks all!! :)
     
    catttman, Jan 21, 2009
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    Watch out on ebay at least that you don't get a BGA chip that has pins added. out of the 4 on there right now only one appears to be a true FCPGA chip. It's probably not a bad upgrade, it'll keep getting cheaper, but the resale value of your P8400 will keep going down (I'm pretty sure you have a P7805u like me right?)
     
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    I went for it. The P9600 boosted my 3dmark score by over 800 points and there is a noticeable improvement performing normal tasks. The only thing is that I wish I could monitor my cpu temps, but I can't seeing as how it's an ES chip. :(
     
    BobXX, Jan 21, 2009
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    Yup 7805u can you give me a link to see the right one so I can see it ? :)
     
    catttman, Jan 21, 2009
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    Spec Number:QZUL

    CPU Speed:2.66G

    Bus Speed:1066 MHz

    BUS/CORE Ratio:9.4

    L2 Cache Size:6M

    L2 Cahe Speed:2.66GHz

    Package Type: Micro-FCPGA

    Manufacturing:45nm

    Technology:B1



    CUPID String:25W

    Thermal Design:105‘C

    Power: 1.050V-1.162V

    this is it

    Item number: 170294828817

    thanks for helping so I fux up
     
    catttman, Jan 21, 2009
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    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=120342480106

    This one is an Engineering Sample, I'm not sure if its would display temps or not

    http://cgi.ebay.com/LowPower-25W-In...14&_trkparms=72:1229|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318

    Same seller, this one is a QS so it I think it will be more likely to display temps and what not, but I honestly don't know that for a fact.

    Extremeprocessor is a well known and respected seller, all the other ones i've seen (they all have a picture of a tray full of cpus) are ES BGA chips which really isnt what you want.

    Yeah you don't want a QZUL, if you google that s-spec you'll see its a FC-BGA chip, which means its been modified to work as a FC-PGA.
     
    Big Mike, Jan 21, 2009
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    Thanks a Heeping lot save me from blowing my money
    you guy s are like brothers ,, :) all Good
     
    catttman, Jan 21, 2009
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    my QS chip can monitor temperature and is of E0 stepping... the only thing that appears different than an OEM is an "ES" mark on cpuz... other than that it's all the same :p
     
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    same here....
     
    Mormegil83, Jan 21, 2009
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  10. catttman

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    for a few more bucks would this be safe bet for a cpu upgrade?


    Item Specifics - Item Condition
    Condition:
    New


    Model Number :
    T9600 QHBM/QAER
    Processor Type :
    Mobile Core2Duo

    Socket Type :
    Socket 478
    Brand :
    Intel

    Computer Type :
    Laptop PC
     
    catttman, Jan 21, 2009
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  11. Mormegil83

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    is that from ebay seller extremeprocessor? that's who sold me mine 275$ and i'm extremely happy. he was quick to respond to my questions but wouldn't haggle me :(
     
    Mormegil83, Jan 21, 2009
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  12. catttman

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    LOL yes.........................
     
    catttman, Jan 21, 2009
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    After I get the chip ,How do I Install it just pull the old one out and clean the old paste off and re paste it close it back up then power back up and thats all?
    I dont have to edit any settings?
    thanks
     
    catttman, Jan 21, 2009
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  14. Mormegil83

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    just pop the new one in and your good to go! quite easier than i expected. i was cautious and a little nervous but found it was all for nothing when i actually did it...
     
    Mormegil83, Jan 21, 2009
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    Hmm, does anyone know if there will be a P9800 to match the T9800 2.8 ghz CPU?
     
    wootage, Jan 21, 2009
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  17. iaTa

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    No there are no plans for a P9800.
     
    iaTa, Jan 21, 2009
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  18. catttman

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    I did it lol thanks guy s for the hookup

    Dear Friend, this chip is P9600 QJFS, Qualification Sample , of course better than A1/B1 Stepping , it's E0 Stepping, perfectly quality and staiblity^_^

    only need 3~5Business day shipping to USA with Tracked EMS

    - extremeprocessor

    Did this answer your question? If not, let the seller know.


    LowPower 25W Intel Core2Duo P9600 2.66GHz 1066FSB 6M L2
    LowPower 25W Intel Core2Duo P9600 2.66GHz 1066FSB 6M L2
    Item Id: 110337478669
    End time: Jan-23-09 05:32:10 PST
     
    catttman, Jan 21, 2009
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  19. catttman

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    this cpu P9600 QJFS QS is not going to over heat or fry my laptop is it someone said so?? thats why I got the P 24w. safe temp.
     
    catttman, Jan 21, 2009
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  20. Szer

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    I have the T9600 and everything is fine and dandy! dont worry about the P9600 lol
     
    Szer, Jan 21, 2009
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  21. catttman

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    thanks man I was geting worried , I hate to waste money :)
     
    catttman, Jan 21, 2009
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    The QS is basically the same as the oem version. It is the final engineering sample so it will report temperatures etc. If buying a es, buy the QS versoion otherwise just get an oem one. I have bought many engineering samples before and now I only get QS versions. Good Luck.
     
    azianmixx, Jan 22, 2009
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  23. catttman

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    thats it QS thanks,,, its on the way ...
     
    catttman, Jan 22, 2009
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  24. TANWare

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    I just ordered a P9600 QS as well. Not so much for the frequency increase but the double L2 size. I was hedging on a T9800 but the higher price and mainly higher TPD put me off. I know 25w is a non heat or power consumption issue with the P7805u so it is a no brainer.
     
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    Cool mine is on the way got the tracking number today :) QS = #1
     
    catttman, Jan 22, 2009
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    P9600 ES works fine with higher temps (you can check it via TZS temps) It still never goes above 75C
    P9600 QS works better core temps are in low 30s and maxes around 70C
    T9800 ES DOES NOT WORK!!!!!
    T9800 QS works like a charm idels around 40C and maxes at 80C. These temps are beter than x9100.

    Txtremeprocessor is one hell of guy to deal with. I bought more than 40 CPUs from him. All were fine.
     
    alitunay, Jan 22, 2009
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  27. BobXX

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    Yea, those are the temps. I've been using to monitor my CPU. When doing normal tasks such as browsing the Internet, they stay in the mid-30's for me.
     
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    Also ordered some MX-2 for when it gets here too.......
     
    TANWare, Jan 23, 2009
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    yes I ask him to put some in the package with the chip ,he said yes my frend LOL
     
    catttman, Jan 23, 2009
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    I ordered a tube from Newegg. I want to do the northbridge as well and may get the courage up to do the GPU as well. I've found factory paste is usually just adaquate and not much beyond that. Done properly this should insure no heat issues for the life of the machine.

    I need to investigate once I pull the heatsinks. They also usually use a thermal pad and these can be a huge limitation. If all looks well I will be removing these in favor of just the MX-2. it is more work but with my older XT500T I saw a 5c drop in temps. Again though that ran hot enough to see such a drop, as the components run closer to ambient it becomes that much harder to realize large drops in temp.
     
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    How do you remove thermal pads? Is that whats under the heat sink in the 7805? my new chip will be here soon ,so I want to be heads up ready :) hes also sending me MX-2 with the chip I know I will be all excited and In a big hurry to install the chip LOL yup. thanks
     
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  32. Szer

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    use isopropyl alcohol to remove the leftover thermal paste from the factory... I got mine from walmart above 90% pure alcohol for cheap... do not use nail varnish
     
    Szer, Jan 23, 2009
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    I second isopropyl alcohol, the CPU should just have thermal paste.
     
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    I will use alot of alcohol LOL (after it s all done while playing Crysis)
     
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    If the upgrade is a success then it is time for at least some good quality alcohol of the 100 proof variety, do they sell that at your walmart too? If not then need to make another stop on the way home...... :)
     
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  36. catttman

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    LoL no "if s" it Will be good :) please dont jinks me :)
     
    catttman, Jan 23, 2009
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    so long as you don't hit the 100 proof alcohol before you do the upgrade you should be fine............. :)
     
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    ******************* :) **************************************
     
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    The thermal pad on the 7805 is just on the GPU (I think that is what that chip is). The CPU has cheap thermal paste on it. I did read, though, that you cannot substitute paste for a thermal pad due to the thickness difference. What would you guys use in place of the thermal pad? The pad, btw, looks like it just lifts off.


    I put a T9600 in my 7805...core temps are pretty cool during normal use (20-30C during idle). Pretty happy with those temps with a "T" processor. I used AS5 for my paste.
     
    lancorp, Jan 24, 2009
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    Ok when I do my cpu swappout Do I have to redo the paste uder the the gpu too or just put a drop on top of the cpu and done deal?
     
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    There isn't paste on the GPU, just the thermal pad. It will either stay stuck to the heatsink assy or stay stuck to the GPU. Just leave it alone, don't touch it or apply anything to it.
     
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    very nice thanks :)
     
    catttman, Jan 24, 2009
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    very nice :)
     
    catttman, Jan 25, 2009
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    Yeah that should be the one you want to get.
     
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    Awesome, hope that one won't have the odd bsod's my current t9800 ES has.
     
    zergslayer69, Jan 25, 2009
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    I should be getting it mon or tue its in Chicago passed customs too real fast shipping
    (QS. It does report temp./Properties)
     
    catttman, Jan 25, 2009
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    Speaking of customs, I'm going to return my current t9800 ES to a seller in China. What options should I choose to minimize costs on both sides? Do I label the package as a gift and put it in a bubble envelope instead of a box? (The cpu came in a small wooden box so the bubble envelope won't kill it)
     
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  49. catttman

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    Can you return it the same way you got it?
    Why you returning it ? Cause it s a ES?
    bsod?
     
    catttman, Jan 25, 2009
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    You should be able to just mark it as "RETURNED ITEM" or something, gift can get you in trouble. You're not selling it after all so there shouldnt be a duty on it.
     
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