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    PM965 (800fsb) chipset and a 1066 MHz fsb cpu...

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by WarlordOne, Oct 5, 2008.

  1. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

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    Whoever said it has a GM965 chipset was just talking out of their ***. GMA965 = Intel X3100, it's not even a northbridge chipset it's a graphics chipset that gets paired with the PM965 northbridge.

    Fools.
     
  2. Citizen86

    Citizen86 Notebook User Guy

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    Exactly! I think this post needs to be locked, because Solon is doing nothing but talking out his butt. I've been asking him multiple times to please post a link or some sort of proof for all his rambling, yet he just keeps on rambling....
     
  3. solon

    solon Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well, my *** told me to ask you this: have you read the Intel specs in ark.intel.com lately? That's what this thread is all about, and guess what? Intel already changed twice since this thread started - now only the GME965 supports some 1066Mhz FSB CPUs.

    So, where were we? Ah, yes:
    - Mr. Seller says CPU no go 1/3
    - Mr. Seller doesn't care and sells 1/7
    - Redfirekla gets CPU and works 1/3
    - Redfirekla gets CPU and doesn't work 1/7
    - Intel changes specs sheet again 1/1

    I'm taking your bet! Any news from red yet...?
     
  4. Citizen86

    Citizen86 Notebook User Guy

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    Dude.... wow.... give it up.
     
  5. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    lmao intel hasnt "changed" twice, stop trying to cover your a ss cause u were wrong. Its also PM965, cause graphics cards are not motherboard platforms :rolleyes:
     
  6. solon

    solon Notebook Enthusiast

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    What is wrong with you people? Some are obsessed with my *** and others just want to ruin my new betting business...

    Here, now I can post links:
    This one is now
    And this one was before... (read the first post in this thread)
    Free gift to anyone who can spot all the 1066Mhz FSB CPU in the second link (google cache).

    I'm still accepting bets, and apologies if anyone has any integrity (expect for the *** obsessed people, they give me the creeps...).
     
  7. Citizen86

    Citizen86 Notebook User Guy

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    So they placed the wrong processors under this chipset, fixed it, and you're calling that proof? Like it's some kind of conspiracy theory?? Here's a bet. How about YOU, SOLON, take YOUR hard earned money and buy YOURSELF a $600 T9600 CPU and tell us if it works.

    Otherwise, stop wasting our time. If 8 gigs of RAM works in your system and they say only 4 should, then I thank you, I might actually give that a try in the future. But RAM is much different from CPU's FSB and the chipsets/motherboards they work in. By the way, I was going to write back about your previous post, but decided not to waste my time. But why do you feel the need to use an embedded processor chipset for an example? That is what GME965 is anyways....

    So unless you or someone else, and you would need a LINK to prove that it actually works, stop trying to get other people to waste their money on CPU's that have no chance of working in their laptop. And BTW, the guy selling that CPU probably told him it didn't work, it's rather common knowledge, and it's the reason why so many people who are on Ebay ask that YOU make sure the CPU is
    compatible with YOUR laptop because they don't want to have to deal with people whining about how their new CPU doesn't work.

    Oh, and I GUARANTEE you that I want NOTHING to do with your butt..... no gracias.
     
  8. curl2k1

    curl2k1 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'll take you up on this bet, I can use the extra cash. My 6860 needs new hard drives
     
  9. solon

    solon Notebook Enthusiast

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    Oiga tio, I don't have the need to say "you're wrong, I'm right".
    The discussion in this thread is about the PM965 supporting 1066Mhz FSB. And according to the MANUFACTURER's website, it did support, until a few days ago.
    Now only the GME965 supports 1066 FSB. But, someone in this thread felt the need to point out the - apparently - obvious (and I won't express my opinion about this): "the GMx965 chipset is the same thing as the PM965 except for the integrated graphics". Is it? Then if the GME965 supports 1066Mhz... so does the PM965 and the GM965.

    Plain simple:
    1. Intel states the PM965's MCH (aka Memory Controller Hub aka northbrigde) is limited to 4Gb maximum RAM - we know this is not true.
    2. Intel states the PM965's MCH doesn't support 1066 FSB and in the GME965 specs you find 1066Mhz FSB CPUs - what makes the GME965 so different... I wonder?

    If you think this is wrong, get off my back and write an email to Intel - that's where this info is coming from. Right now I still stand by what I said: if you have a Santa Rosa Refresh chipset then it will work with 8Gb and probably with 1066 FSB CPUs.


    There you go again... you just can't help it, can you?


    Nice first post... but what bet? Choose one or more and the amount you want to bet:
    - Mr. Seller says CPU no go 1/3
    - Mr. Seller doesn't care and sells 1/7
    - Redfirekla gets CPU and works 1/3
    - Redfirekla gets CPU and doesn't work 1/7
    - Intel changes specs sheet again 1/1
     
  10. Citizen86

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    So they made an error on the PM965 chipset page, the GM965 webpage, and the GME965 page? Yes, we understand... they probably just copied and pasted the CPU list and haven't gotten around to removing the 1066 CPU's from the GME page....

    So why don't you quote the part where I ask you, since you're so sure of yourself, without you stating "I am correct" because we don't need to do that... buy a 1066Mhz Cpu that you think will work and tell us if it works or not. Please.

    BTW, good job on calling out curl2k1 on his first post since you've only made 22 posts in a whopping 4 separate threads.
     
  11. curl2k1

    curl2k1 Notebook Enthusiast

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    100 bucks on the fact that a 1066FSB CPU will not run at rated speed on a PM965 chipset.
     
  12. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

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    Put me down for the same... just 1000 bucks.
     
  13. BigHops323

    BigHops323 Notebook Deity

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    can we /voteban?
     
  14. Phasio

    Phasio Notebook Consultant

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    Cant wait to see, how this betting thing turns out..
     
  15. Hep!

    Hep! sees beauty in everything

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    I will but right but I will never see my 7000 dollars :(
     
  16. tyspeed29

    tyspeed29 Newbie

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    I have the Asus GS1 Laptop, and I tryed to install a Intel 2.53 1066 FSB since I was told it would work.

    My laptop would not boot with this processor. Unless there is a bios fix, it just won't work unless its a 800fsb processor that I have found.
     
  17. redfirekla

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    Actually he had me wait and then he had a x9000 which i was able to get from him for $340 and i was pretty happy $350 shipped it works great however it is an engineering same and the cpu wont read tempatre it says negative -27 celsius (liquid nitrogen temps) and it could be do to the bios but then i herd updating ur bios downclocks ur video card so i'm able to run the cpu at 1.130 volts at 3ghz no issues i undervolt using crystal cpuid but can't brake the 3ghz barrier for now i did some research and found out that the pll on this laptop is CY28548 here is the link on medium settings only physics and a few on high like water my framerate went from 24 to 39fps although on action scenes it drops to 35-34 which i think is still good if i overclock the video card with ntune i can get 44fps 624 / 933 yes i do have a cooler underneath i also used memset to lower latency to 5-4-4-4-8 and that gave me another 3 fps boost so it all helped out <<
     
  18. redfirekla

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    lol ur all wrong although if he would've sold it and if i also would've skipped all my research all of you would've been right lol i told him i go if it dont work can i return so he had me wait lol :D and sold me a x9000
     
  19. redfirekla

    redfirekla Notebook Enthusiast

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    working in the IT world i had intels number and called and after a long long delay i got tranfered finally to their level 5 support and a tech claimed the intel 965m would work with 1066 fsb however most companies are refusing to provide the bios suppport... that is the same reason intel website lists the qx9300 able to work for our chipset even though we can't use it cause gateway is being gay
     
  20. Citizen86

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    Even if the chipset is capable, it won't put 1066 mhz CPU's in our P-6831FX's, thus it would still be a waste of money to even try it...
     
  21. redfirekla

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    I called intel at 1-916-377-7000 I talked to Tom from Level 5 tech support he assured me that the intel 965m can support the new cpu however GATEWAY and only gateway can make that happen if they provide bios support for the qx9300 mobile quad cpu
     
  22. royk50

    royk50 times being what they are

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    if there was "most useless thread on nbr" this would be in my top 10 :D
     
  23. E-wrecked

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    right next to any TZS0 thread...
     
  24. lostmongoose

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    First off, please forgive me for adding to this argument, being new and all :eek:

    on to my question! I've been researching the P-6831 for a few days as I am looking to buy one soon and I came across these forums while searching for upgrades that can be done. This topic in particular caught my eye while doing processor and bios release note lookups, concerning the FSB800 v FSB1066 question. I noticed something in another thread about the 94.31 BIOS in the release notes posted by E-wrecked here.

    The bolded text drew my attention, so I went to intel's sspec/odf reference page here and set filters for to only show Penryn chips, then sorted by stepping to get all the C0 chips together. Upon doing so, I discovered that there are five C0 chips with the CPUID string '10676' that are FSB1066. This ID string is also shared with all the FSB800 C0s. This makes me think that maybe Gateway has silently added support for the above mentioned 1066 Penryns. Am i missing something here? I can't help but feel that I am.
     
  25. Diablo

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    even if 1066mhz cpu's worked in the 6831/6860's, you cant get past the hardware limitation of the chipset without going to extreme lengths (switching out the motherboard...good luck with that one) or buying a new laptop (7811, 7801, 7805, 7807)
     
  26. royk50

    royk50 times being what they are

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    this thread again :D
    even if you could there is very little performance gain over an x7800 / x9000 running @3.0ghz since the x7800 are dirty cheap why would you risk buying a cpu that does not work ?

    its a waste of time. get a 7805 they are dirty cheap as well ;)
     
  27. lostmongoose

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    Sorry for beating the dead horse :( I was just curious given the shared CPUID string, that's all. Not intending to rekindle the argument :eek:
     
  28. royk50

    royk50 times being what they are

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    no harm mate :)
     
  29. narsnail

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    I like eggs
     
  30. rionale

    rionale Notebook Geek

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    whats the sence? does pm965 support 1066fsb (qx9300) f.e.?
     
  31. idiotpilot

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    No.

    No.no.no.no.no.no.no.
     
  32. rionale

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    Thx a lot, i see youve a extreme edition of core2duo in your notebook...
    how do you overclock it?
     
  33. royk50

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    gateways bios allows the following o/c : 2.6/2.8/3.0 Ghz
    X7800 x7900 and x9000 only
     
  34. matteovinci

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    just to add to this
    firstly, why is there no 'NEC' section for notebook manufacturers?

    second, yes, i have a PM965 chipset

    current cpu = T7700 / 2.4G
    http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupID=29762

    looking on the intel site, list of compatible cpu's for PM965
    2 upgrade options

    T9500
    http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupID=33918

    or

    X9000
    http://ark.intel.com/cpu.aspx?groupID=34443

    all shown as same 800 FSB

    the socket seems to differ by a single character in terms of the acronym
    but i assume they would all be the same
    intel is good at confusing with a different name for the same thing

    would appreciate some feedback, specifically if anyone has a NEC obviously
    currently using a Versa P8310
     
  35. Citizen86

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    I don't know what laptop you're talking about... but I see why you replied in this thread.

    Basically. if you have a PM965 chipset, which is Socket P, then either of those two CPU's should work.
     
  36. famwka

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    I came looking for an answer to the same question, whether or not a 1066 CPU is supported by the 965 Express Chipset. Pretty surprised at the amount of comments actually. I have a store nearby my house and I'll stop by and make sure that it works on my HP 6710b. Check back in a few days, most likely Thursday or Friday, and I'll have you a definite answer with a screen shot.
     
  37. kaltmond

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    T9400 wont´t post in my PM965 nb, confirmed......
     
  38. E-wrecked

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    lol! Is this thread still going?! The short answer, no it won't work. Thanks for the input kalt - there u go, first hand experience speaks volumes.
     
  39. narsnail

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    somebody kill this flippin thread!

    I will request to have it closed.
     
  40. Charles P. Jefferies

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    Yeah, this thread has reached the end of its usefulness . . . read the previous posts. 1066MHz FSBs do not work in the mobile 965 chipset. End of story.
     
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