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    Phoenix BIOS unlock?

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by narsnail, Feb 26, 2008.

  1. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    I have been trying to flash an 8800m GTX BIOS to my FX, but I think the BIOS is locked and it wont let me do anything of the sort. Any one know any good websites on how to hack a BIOS, or to unlock it, I have no clue what to do.
     
  2. Jstn7477

    Jstn7477 Sam I Am

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    Looks like your VGA BIOS is tied in with the regular BIOS. The only way you can get the VGA part out is with the Phoenix BIOS Editor Pro (not demo) and that costs like 6000 dollars. It's what OEMs use to build their bioses. I've already tried looking for it.

    P.S. Why are you trying to flash your 8800GTS to a GTX? Aren't the shaders laser-cut? I know nVIDIA has been laser cutting stuff since the whole 6800 fiasco.

    -J.B.
     
  3. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    well I would like to see if it would work, I have no idea if they are cut, but considering they are the same card ther eis no way I can really wreck anything.
     
  4. MINIz guy

    MINIz guy Notebook Consultant

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    PM'd you a link that might help.
     
  5. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    ok so I have a BIOS editor, how do I obtain the bios, or unlock it guess...I still have no idea what to do really.
     
  6. hydra

    hydra Breaks Laptops

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    Like the dells, you may have to make a boot disks to allow you to flash before Vista boots. That all I can offer you, but the first step would to get the dos boot CD to work under Vista.
     
  7. Richteralan

    Richteralan Notebook Evangelist

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    The BIOS Editor should have a function that can read off BIOS in memory since system BIOS is shadowed anyway.
     
  8. DRevan

    DRevan Notebook Virtuoso

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    why did Gateway lock the bios on a gaming notebook? :mad:
     
  9. peteryorkuca

    peteryorkuca Notebook Consultant

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    So they don't have to worry about more tech problems arrised from people OCing the FX and messing up. One less problem = more $ for them.
     
  10. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    yes, and doing things like this lol...
     
  11. ChristmasGT

    ChristmasGT Notebook Consultant

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    It'll be really interesting to see how it turns out, check rivatuner to see if it actually unlocks the extra pipes if you do by chance get it going =D
     
  12. johnnobts

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    interested to see results too. please keep us posted on bios editing for the card.
     
  13. qwiz

    qwiz Notebook Enthusiast

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    How on earth would this work? I have not been into the tuning/overclocking/modding thing in a long time so I may need some education on this whole upgrading of the graphics bios issue but I think I have gathered enough information from the context of these posts. Honestly I never really was a big hobbyist of this stuff anyway. However, I have been playing with, building, and programming computer systems for about 17 or 18 years. To my thinking the GTX would not simply be a different bios version of the GT/GTS but a physically different card. The notion of anything otherwise is silly. But I also get the idea from the comment earlier in this thread about "the whole 6800 fiasco" that this is exactly what they did in the past? They made 2 or 3 versions of cards that are physically identical in every possible way and only differ by a locked bios version? Wow, that is crazy. And they charge different prices for a card they produce in exactly the same manner.

    Jeez. Talk about trying to find a way maximize your profits by raping the customer, heh, lol. They produce cards with a 100% identical manufacturing process and then charge incredibly different prices simply for the addition of a bios feature. Good thing people tweaked and tuned enough to force these guys to produce physically different cards. I mean come on if all you are gonna do it make devices that need software updates to unlock features then sell the software update as a simple cost effective upgrade instead of making the consumer dump the old device only to shell out another $400 on the exact same thing with newer software loaded. Holy crap. Wow. Just wow. /boggle
     
  14. id10t error dfw

    id10t error dfw Notebook Consultant

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    You do realize that is exactly what processor manufacturers have done for years right? They test them to see what speed they can safely run the newly minted CPU's at and that is what they are...
     
  15. qwiz

    qwiz Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yes, correct. But there is a huge difference still. The processor cannot be made to handle a faster speed simply by upgrading the bios. What I mean to say is that Intel doesn't have some special bios version they use to make, say, an E6700 @ 2.66ghz become an E8500 @ 3.16ghz. Even among the same processor series, in fact using the same processor number and manufacturing technology only rating them at different speeds there is still a difference. One is simply rated to run higher because it passed in stress tests, etc... That "one" is actually better physically than all the rest. The inferior ones rated at lower speeds cannot be made better by a software upgrade. So that is the difference.

    I think it's mind boggling that nVidia is/was supplying identical chips with various limitations placed on them that are enabled via a locked software upgrade (one that nVidia keeps hidden and only allows access to with the purchase of a new card). It is justifiable if the more expensive card is physically superior and goes through a different manufacturing process which incurs obviously more costs. I just think if all along they are churning out cards with an identical manufacturing process and they only differ by applying some locked bios then they should at least offer an upgrade path to the consumer as opposed to asking them to buy the exact same piece of hardware again with the exception that it has been loaded with superior software [because that is really what's going on in that scenario].
     
  16. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    well i got the best deal then because i have the low end one :) and I am not really going to pursue this BIOS thing ATM, I dont really care all that much considering I can max everything cept crysis anyways.