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    Possible to undervolt and overclock at same time?

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by zergslayer69, Jan 27, 2009.

  1. zergslayer69

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    My common sense is telling me that you can only do one or the other. But who knows, sometimes science makes no sense. So, as the topic says, is it possible to undervolt and overclock (slightly, like say from 2.93 to 3ghz) at the same time without blowing up the computer into chunky kibbles?
     
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    Szer Notebook Consultant

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    gateway bios doesnt allow overclocking... for my t9600 i undervolted and then let it run under max performance and temperature is 22-18 C idling or surfing the net...
     
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    Yes, you can do both.

    I'm running my x9000 at 1.0/1.1 volts when i'm using Vista (i've recently switched back to Linux) and its over clocked to the full 3.0gHz that Gateway allowed for the 68xx series of notebooks
     
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    Yes its possible, you just need to find the optimal voltage for the Overclocked speed. You probably wont be able to undervolt much, the tolerance margin will be very small.
     
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    Thanks, so basically for best results stick with one or the other.
     
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    Lets say the default voltage is 1.00v for 2ghz, you can probably overclock it to 2.5ghz stable using the default voltage. There is usually a tolerance margin. CPU's become unstable when theres not enough or too much voltage being fed or its overheating. If you lower that voltage then you will be risk stability for the overclock.

    To do a superclock (lets say 3ghz), you need to overvolt to feed more power to the CPU to support higher clock speeds. You will need a very good cooling system for it though.
     
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    Well the reason I mentioned this is because I want to pick up a t9800 which is 2.93ghz, and I hear that the maximum o/c possible for the gateway fx's is 3.0ghz. So that's why I specifically mentioned 2.93 to 3.0 to see if that's a big enough o/c to discourage me from doing any noticable undervolting.
     
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    Ah well theres your problem right there. You cant OC the t9800. Gateways only allow the X series extreme chips to be OC'ed (via BIOS) and then only up to 3.0gHz. Unfortunatly the only Extreme CPU that is of that series is the x9100 and it runs default at 3.06 so theres no ability to go any higher.

    In any case there is no actual difference between 2.93 and 3.0 gHz.

    Back in the 80's a 7mHz jump was a pretty big deal but now... nothing you will ever do could EVER run better with an extra 7mHz of power behind it ;)
     
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    Lol, guess I'm still stuck in my Pentium 90mhz days. Doom ran SOO smooth on it though! Alright, guess I'll stick with stock speeds on t9800 and undervolt it. I wonder if anybody has undervolted it quite low.
     
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    any games before 300 Mhz ran quite smooth regardless what mhz you had.
    I ran doom on a 30mhz it was just fine, long as you had a vga card you were fine. Now the size of doom is another thing, think biggest game back then was Warcraft 1 or 2 either one was like 30MB and that was hugel.
     
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    So when people overclock, how far do they usually set their goal to? at least 300mhz?