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    Q9100 In 7811fx

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by BMW135i, Oct 1, 2008.

  1. BMW135i

    BMW135i Notebook Consultant

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    The Q9100 will work with 7811fx with version 28 bios installed correct? If so should i buy a Q9100 ES?
     
  2. focusfre4k

    focusfre4k Notebook Evangelist

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    link to chip please :D
     
  3. WozniakMac

    WozniakMac Notebook Consultant

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    If it is Socket 775 then it won't work.
     
  4. Diablo

    Diablo Metalhead

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    you talking about the 94.28 bios 'update' available on gateways website for the 7811?

    if so, that bios will NOT work with the 7811, as it was designed for the 6831/6860 laptops.

    he was talking about one of the mobile quad core cpus intel plans to release very shortly, not the desktop processor.
     
  5. BMW135i

    BMW135i Notebook Consultant

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    9c.10.00

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=303626

    I can get QX9300 FOR $750 but the q9100 might be a better buy since we don't have the sliders in bios.
     
  6. Diablo

    Diablo Metalhead

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    yeah, i suppose that should have clicked with me about the version 28 bios. dur dur dur on my part.

    and for the second part, we may not have sliders in the bios......yet.
     
  7. BMW135i

    BMW135i Notebook Consultant

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    He says the X9100 is better than Q9100...I should just buy that dang QX9300!

    "Dear Sir, yes only for PM45、GM45, But few machine support , We all tested , if is your machine not support, you could resell, Actually, I suggest X9100 is Better than Q9100, It's almost compatiable at GM45、PM45's platform, Q9100、Q9200、Q9300 only few machine support! You need confirm! Thanks"
     
  8. Diablo

    Diablo Metalhead

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    dude sounds like a farkin retard.

    x9100 - dual core 3.06
    q9100 - quad core 2.26

    ill take the...one that fits my needs at the time, not my erection.
     
  9. stormgraphicdesigns

    stormgraphicdesigns Notebook Geek

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    lol,reminds me of the processors on ebay that are being sold out of tiwan, they butcher the translation so bad it makes it amusing just to ask questions to see what the response will be
     
  10. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Just buy the Qx9300 so we know it works and you can put it in your sig for bragging rights :).
     
  11. Johnksss

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    first of all...

    where is this guy and his chips?
    does he really have them?
    are they es version?
    never heard of a q9200
    a quad is always going to be better for multi-threaded applications
    the qx9300 is 260 mhz faster than the q9100.
    quad anything you can't go wrong.
    and like the man up above said.....

    sho me the link...*LOL*
     
  12. Juliox

    Juliox Notebook Geek

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    meh honestly 4 cores will just make windows actually multitask instead of the **** jump jump jump thing it does while it tries to keep up with me! WTB MOAR CORES! have 3 turn off when i use the lappy from the battery :p!! woot woot.
     
  13. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

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    think you better look around...just about anything is over clock able if put in the right computer. example t9300 is not over clock able, but yet they have it running at 2.9 ghz
     
  14. BMW135i

    BMW135i Notebook Consultant

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    Well i bought the Q9100 ...If it don't work i'll list it on ebay since there is none i should beable to sell it fast!
     
  15. nomoredell

    nomoredell Notebook Deity

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    very nice, i think q9100 will work just fine on any montevina chipset.
    i apologize for my previous post, didnt realize its just an engineer' sample.
    u know, $450 is only half of the price of oem q9100 .
     
  16. BMW135i

    BMW135i Notebook Consultant

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    Yes $851 for Q9100 and $1038 for QX9300...Which i am not paying! I'll be fine with an ES. it's inbound so i expect Mon-Tues.
     
  17. E-wrecked

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    BMW, lemme know how it works out.. you'll need an updated BIOS for it to work though. check out the 7811fx BIOS thread to download the quad-core supported version, 9c.10.00.. Just a heads up. And, I'm looking forward to hearing good things! Keep us posted.
     
  18. BMW135i

    BMW135i Notebook Consultant

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    I installed that bios last night :)
     
  19. E-wrecked

    E-wrecked BANNED

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    sweet..well, you'll be the first able to confirm that it's fully functional when your chip comes in :)
     
  20. Johnksss

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    people are getting confused about what an "es chip" is all about.

    it is the chip intel sends out to have people test the limits on. the chip that intel says.."ok, here is our best, now go and try to break it" you break that one, they come out with the revised version. till the get to the end resulted chip. the one that has no es markings on it, but only in the chips makeup. the chip that will be branded as a "retail chip" once final results are in. so never be scared to use the "es" model (extreme chips only) especially if it's the last in it's stage of evolution before going retail.
     
  21. Citizen86

    Citizen86 Notebook User Guy

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    Yes johnksss, but it's still something to be wary about... because you don't know which ES model you're getting, if it's one of the last or one of the first. You don't know how many revisions and mistakes your ES model will have and how many revisions happened since that one. And you also don't know how much abuse it has taken, how many times it's overheated, been pushed to the limits, etc....

    I'm not saying it's a bad buy, I mean an unlocked processor for ~$400 that some have been buying is awesome, but everyone should be aware of the pro's and con's of buying an ES chip compared to a retail chip.
     
  22. Johnksss

    Johnksss .

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    as many people running around here talking about heat issues with a retail chip??? *LMAO* to funny. and when you buy "ES" you already know what your up against. and those samples come in 5 forms including but not limited to "ES"
    retail
    MFS
    ES
    AS
    and one other one.

    going along with pros and cons also goes with know what samples are out as well.
     
  23. BMW135i

    BMW135i Notebook Consultant

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    From what i see it does not say ES on the chip.
     
  24. Johnksss

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    man, that's even better!!!
    but it will show up when you run any windows cpu id software. it reads the internal markings or what's embedded in the code.

    these chips are like 850 bucks and up for a retail chip
     
  25. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    I can't wait to see how well this works out. I wish you the best.
     
  26. Johnksss

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    this could actually be the scale tipper the fx needed.
     
  27. Dook

    Dook Notebook Virtuoso

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    I'm also very interested in the outcome to say the least. Please keep us up to date.
     
  28. royk50

    royk50 times being what they are

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    i'll watch as well
     
  29. Lakjin

    Lakjin Notebook Deity

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    Me too.

    (What are we watching?)
     
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    the first quad chip to hit the 7811. thanks to the bios efforts of one E-Wrecked & the trial recipient of the first quad, mr bmw135i.
     
  31. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    im watching too!....not in a creepy way
     
  32. adamjon858

    adamjon858 Notebook Consultant

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    So did it work?
     
  33. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    from what i have been watching, not creepily, he will not recieve it till tom or tuesday.
     
  34. Dook

    Dook Notebook Virtuoso

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    LOL. You stalker.
     
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    lol

    the great narsnail has returned! hey..i put as5 on my norhtbridge and it works fine and dandy...but that as5 cant be over lapping on to the green parts of the chip like frosting...
     
  36. narsnail

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    lol and thats my problem.....it got ALL over that chip and i got most of it off. but I still need a thermal pad, i will get one this week.
     
  37. Johnksss

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    im telling ya...im running it right now and the temps are low. that means it was on the little component chips....yeah, not good there. you just dab it on real lightly, then clamp the heat sink back on and done.
     
  38. E-wrecked

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    nars, where ya picking one up? I still never heard back if ya got the ones off Ebay :p

    Ok..I'm gonna go ahead and *try* this AS5 thing on the northbridge. It is a pretty big gap.. not sure it will work. But, whatever..it worked for you. And as long as narsnail lets me know if he tried the Ebay pads..I'm all good. Then I have somewhere to supply me for my screw up. I know I'm gonna f*ck up the thermal pad that it came with. Anyways.. I'll let ya know how it goes.

    EDIT: I will not use aluminum foil, regardless.
     
  39. Dook

    Dook Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yea. Definitely good to see ya back, nars!
     
  40. Johnksss

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    that gap on the 6860 is not that big. really, it's not a gap at all, but the pad is used to not get thermal compound on the little chips.

    good idea on the pads. will get some also. just to have a back up plan.



    tzs0 temp chillin at 40 right now. with rightmark running.

    went as high as 80 with our rightmark off and running 3 copies of orthos.
    while on seemed to stay between 65-71 and tzs1 got up to 80
     
  41. E-wrecked

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    tzs0 ever hit 98? even before?

    EDIT: Ok..gone for a bit. Applying AS5 with hopes of success.
     
  42. Johnksss

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    we are now talking abut two different laptops.

    my 7811 did, but when i ran rightmark & lifted the back, it stayed below if i didn't do a crazy memory over clock, it stay below as well.
     
  43. E-wrecked

    E-wrecked BANNED

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    Thanks for the afternote.. Well, applied AS5. Kept the blue thermal pad. These things are, well.. tempermental. This one wont let me run 3dmark with no OC of the GPU without the TZS0 going off the charts and downclocking everything. My previous, well..it did. The previous, it would allow for a minor OC and the TZS0 stayed in check. Im bout to run a couple tests, and Ill let ya know how it goes.
     
  44. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    i cant find any stores around here that carry thermal pads, and im not ebaying one, that will take too long. the search continues..
     
  45. ShortBtwnHdset

    ShortBtwnHdset Notebook Enthusiast

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    E and others, ya'll have had the HSF's off of these laptops, do you remember if mating surfaces were all copper or plated? Thanx!!!
     
  46. E-wrecked

    E-wrecked BANNED

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    I lapped a previous one..and it's all copper. By the way, no need to lap them..they're already VERY smoothe.
     
  47. ShortBtwnHdset

    ShortBtwnHdset Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yeah, was thinking about lapping, maybe when I did a processor upgrade! Actually, have that new liquid hs compound, looks like mercury, but it eats up coatings like alum or solder.
     
  48. BMW135i

    BMW135i Notebook Consultant

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    My heatsink is not smooth..it has burs or dings ! Where can i get an extra heatsink?
     
  49. Diablo

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    your cpu heatsink? i would think gateway would sell them to you. or have you send it in blah blah blah stupid tech support.

    but, i do know that there are supposed to be two little L shape rises on the heatsink opposite corners from each other.
     
  50. BMW135i

    BMW135i Notebook Consultant

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    It looks like it got bumped around or something. I'll take pics tomarrow!
     
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