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    Really Gateway? The FN key in the Ctrl place?

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by stormlifter, Sep 9, 2008.

  1. stormlifter

    stormlifter Notebook Consultant

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    When I get over the awe of this computer and my work for the day I'm going to hack that Fn key to be the Ctrl key and the current Ctrl key to the Fn.

    Cause it's a bloody pain in the ***...
     
  2. Dook

    Dook Notebook Virtuoso

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    Good luck with that. There's plenty here that would love to see it happen, but nobody has been successful.
     
  3. stormlifter

    stormlifter Notebook Consultant

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    Oh I'll get it (yeah so that's optimistic) ! Just need this work to finish itself... Look for an update on this page later today.

    edit: after a little more research I'm a little sadder. Seems like this may or may not be possible. **** "Fn" key seems to be hardware interpreted.
     
  4. MedievalZeus

    MedievalZeus Notebook Consultant

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    Finally..

    I would have to agree.. I've missed many crouch kills on 1.6 to feel comfortable with the layout yet.
     
  5. Dook

    Dook Notebook Virtuoso

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    Exactly. Which does indeed, suck.
     
  6. MedievalZeus

    MedievalZeus Notebook Consultant

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    Dammit.. Got my hopes up too..

    Oh well, just have to get adjusted I guess. :(

    The biggest problem I have is the right shift key is way to **** small for my fingers. :p
     
  7. stormlifter

    stormlifter Notebook Consultant

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    I use a ZBoard fang with my 7811 so not a big deal while gaming.
     
  8. CronusTRD

    CronusTRD Newbie

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    between that and the brown lettering, someone should be fired from the laptop design team. I've gone to CTRL-C and CTRl-V too many times, only to get squat.
     
  9. Blarg

    Blarg Notebook Consultant

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    Sure is. I have lost a bunch of text I was going to cut and paste by hitting FN C instead of CTRL C. It's just awkward.

    Also I'm down with the hate for the tiny shift key on the right side. Anyone who has done much typing knows that the size of the shift keys and enter key are by far two of the most important things in good keyboard layout. Having those keys, which you use constantly, be too small slows typing way down and makes manipulating the keyboard much more fussy and error prone.

    If anyone can figure out a way to remap or get rid of the function key, I'd love to hear it somewhere down the line. Like immediately.
     
  10. Jakamo5

    Jakamo5 Tetra Vaal

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    apparently they did it so that the key would be closer to your hand so you don't have to stretch your pinky. sort of backfired because everyone is used to its old place.

    for those looking for an alternative crouch key, I use Caps lock
     
  11. Kamin_Majere

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    Unfortunately there isn't a way to change the keys with out rewiring the keyboard, or maybe a firmware update. I've tried every other way possible, from remapping software to editing the registry that controls the keyboard function.

    The FN key is a hardware leveling key so not much can be done with it.

    Since the FX laptops have 2 (the other one by the arrow keys) you can always remove the FN key so you don't accidentally press it. Your keyboard will look a bit funny, but you can recognize it tactility that way so you don't keep trying to use it instead of the CRTL key
     
  12. Tyreck

    Tyreck Notebook Consultant

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    Well, I consider myself a pretty hardcore gamer. When I use the laptop for gaming I whip out the NXZT notebook cooler and set everything up.

    I only use the keyboard for typing. I have a Nostromo N52 gamepad I use for my left hand. You should check it out. Can't move the FN key, but for gaming I like the gamepad.
     
  13. Blarg

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    I don't like the idea of leaving my keyboard even more exposed to dust or liquid that way, but I like your basic idea of making it tactily different. I think a little bit of tape will do the same thing! Anyway, strong basic idea and thanks for suggesting it!
     
  14. M4rauder

    M4rauder Notebook Consultant

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    Completely agree... this is absolutely the thing I dislike the most about the 6860. Having an N52 for gaming is a good idea if you're using it on a desk though.
     
  15. mtv2004

    mtv2004 Notebook Evangelist

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    i wonder who was the genius to switch the crl and fn key spot? that thing bugged me when had the 7811
     
  16. N00d13s

    N00d13s is too legit to quit!

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    i don't have any problems with the keyboard, the right shift doesn't bother me cause i rarely use it.my hands are big enough that i can use the left shift and still hit a key without slowing down.

    is the Fn key only a hardware thing on the keyboard? if so couldn't you just try finding another keyboard that fits, if there is one.
     
  17. Don Quixote

    Don Quixote Notebook Geek

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    I just wanna remind people that Thinkpads and MacBooks also have the switched FN and CTRL keys.
     
  18. vinceboiii

    vinceboiii Animals are friends, not food.

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    my asus c90s is like that too but its been a year im use to it haha and is this with all gateway? or just yours?
     
  19. onefreeborn

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    Couldn't agree more regarding the FN/Ctrl swap. I absolutely love my new p7805u, except for one thing... this blasted key swap; I HATE it. :mad:

    Gateway, note to you guys... please just include a simple swap option in the next BIOS update for all of us unhappy people. I'm ready to dump this thing and go back to a Dell solely because I'm tired of missing keys. I have to look at the keyboard every time I want Ctrl, which is often. Yes, I've given ample time to adjust, it just isn't natural to me.
     
  20. E-wrecked

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    do we really have 2 threads complaining about this on the first page now? let it go :p
     
  21. N00d13s

    N00d13s is too legit to quit!

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    i don't get what the big deal is, after you use it for a week you get used to it, or i did at least. I have big hands and have no problems with the keyboard, or the orange numbers.

    EDIT: just realized this is an old thread, and only read the first page before.