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    Sooo Who's running Windows 7?

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by mew1838, Jun 30, 2009.

  1. mew1838

    mew1838 Team Teal

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    Can those running Win 7 RC share their experiences with the rest of us?

    1) overall "snappiness" compared to Vista X64

    2) FPS increase in games?

    3) 3Dmark Scores increase?

    4) Driver Issues?

    5) Worth the upgrade?
     
  2. Kamin_Majere

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    1) Insanely snappy, but i'm running it on a SSD so even Windows 98 would run snappy. But over all it is a cleaner more lean version of Vista that was pu together very well. I loved Vista (post SP1) but this i will say is probably microsofts best OS since NT

    2) I bit better, preforms DX10 about the same and DX9 about the same. There is a bit better preformance due to the OS needing less resources and being a cleaner system generally

    3) I'm getting about 1Kish

    4) none what so ever for me

    5) in a new york minute. Not only do you get a superior version of Vista, you also get a native VM XP version as well with Pro and above... HIGHLY RECOMMENDED
     
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    Can those running Win 7 RC share their experiences with the rest of us?

    1) overall "snappiness" compared to Vista X64
    much snappier

    2) FPS increase in games?
    slight increase, gets about 2-3 fps more

    3) 3Dmark Scores increase?
    quite a bit better, probably around a 15% increase, my laptop is pretty low end anyway though

    4) Driver Issues?
    when i accidentally installed the vista drivers for my card reader my dvd drive screwed up somehow.

    5) Worth the upgrade?
    heck, yes. extremely easy, pretty, nice features, all programs i have tried have worked. the day the real thing comes out im getting it. if this is just a rc right now, i cant wait for the actual thing.
     
  4. mew1838

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    Kamin, when you install windows 7, does the gateway restore partition stay there so we easily revert back to stock vista?
     
  5. qhn

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    @mew1838 - yes. The recovery partition is being untouched, if you did nothing to it prior to W7 installation.

    cheers ...
     
  6. mew1838

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    Good eye qhn :)
     
  7. t3rR0r

    t3rR0r Notebook Evangelist

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    Like everyone else has said... W7 is superior to Vista in almost everyway... I just got the upgrade version off amazon for $50.... when it comes out of course...you should look into the RC if you are interested
     
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    1.) general feel is snappier. I did an inplace install so all the drivers and programs just ported or upgraded as required.

    2.) Don't yet play games so an't tell you about that

    3.) 3DMark06 seems to be the same score but in watching it run it just looks smoother.

    4.) No driver issues here at all.

    5.) I'd say yes, well worth the upgrade. Memory management seems much better, if nothing else, and to me that makes it worth it alone!

    I am thinking of whiping the 10 gig partition and mounting it as Z:\ then assigning the page file to it. I've already burnt the recovery disk's so this wouldn't be an issue.

    I'm only in 2 days since the install so I am still evaluating my options but so far I like it on tthe P-7805u and even my old XT5000T...............
     
  9. Citizen86

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    I've been running Win7 full time for the last week, I actually wiped Vista... not that I didn't like Vista, but I figured with the RC, I get almost a full year out of it before I need to install the retail version, which is alright. Been working very well for me, highly recommended.
     
  10. strife1013

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    RTM version is set to be out the middle of the month (july), will there be a difference between RTM and the one released in Oct?
     
  11. Citizen86

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    I'm sure there will be some updates, but I mean... the RC is probably pretty close to what's going to be released in Oct as well, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.
     
  12. strife1013

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    That gives them about 2 more months to work on a better build, should be better than updating it nah?
     
  13. Citizen86

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    Maybe, but the public version is called "Release Candidate" for a reason. I doubt there will be a ton of extra features or anything in the final version.
     
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    I just wish they would have brung PIPES back............ :(
     
  15. strife1013

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    Windows 7 is what Vista should have been. What's M$ gonna do, release a new windows version every 2 years? I haven't played with 7 yet but it seems people is saying it's way better than Vista.
     
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    It's pretty similar actually, a couple new features here and there. The taskbar is pretty new and takes a littl getting used to, but I like it after I got used to it.

    I'd say the biggest thing is that it just feels more lightweight and faster. I read also that it does less chewing on your hard drive constantly. I always thought Vista was pretty decent and have used it since it came out, Win7 basically takes Vista and makes it better.
     
  17. t3rR0r

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    W7 is just a much more refined Vista... think of like a GT mustang compared to a standard mustang... haha.... both pretty fast though.... but GT takes the cake
     
  18. strife1013

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    Well I'm looking 4ward to the new windows but reinstalling everything seems like it's going to be a pain in the butt.
     
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    You don't have to reinstall all programs and games to run Win 7 if you had Vista before, do you? If so I don't know if I want to waste the time reinstalling everything...
     
  20. Kamin_Majere

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    No you can just do an upgrade and it leaves everything in place. I like clean fresh systems so i end up wiping everything and reinstalling. But i originally upgraded to make sure everything worked right.
     
  21. strife1013

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    I like a clean install myself those upgrades seem risky. Let me ask you if I install the RTM version will I have to go back and install the RC version in oct or will windows update fix all of that?

    How much less resources does Windows 7 use over Vista?
     
  22. sparkyman2000

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    Im only running windows 7 to try it out but to mostly run wine on Ubuntu. Though I do like windows 7 over vista because of xpm and how it is free of the kernel. Also windows 7 does a much better job at recognizing my solid state drive.
     
  23. Kamin_Majere

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    Unfortunatly i cant give you exact number right now (i'm on my travel Linux lappy) I'll check for you once i'm back home if no one has answered you about the resource management.

    As to RTM... i'm not even sure what that is. :confused:
    I have the 7100 RC build, but i'm going to have to do a clean install once Win7 is actually released
     
  24. TANWare

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    Finally got my Pipes screen saver back and it runs great in Windows 7 too............. :)
     
  25. sparkyman2000

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    Too answer your question here is a quote:

    "When you install the final version of Windows 7, you'll need to do a clean installation. So plan on backing up your data then reinstalling your applications and restoring your data."

    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/faq.aspx
    look down to Can I upgrade from the RC to the final version of Windows 7?

    That is of late so it could change.

    Strife - they use the same resources but kernel use them differently.

    example of resources:
    vista - http://www.blackviper.com/WinVista/servicecfg.htm
    w7 - http://www.blackviper.com/Windows_7/servicecfg.htm

    yes they renamed and merged some but they are all there.
    http://www.blackviper.com/Windows_7/service411.htm
     
  26. Citizen86

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    What is this RTM version you're talking about? I think you mean the RC version, which is available right now to download and install... because the RC version is the Release Candidate, it's like their open beta which will work until March 2010. But the final version of Windows 7 will be available for purchase in Oct. You have to pay for that one....

    And as for resources, what do you mean? Ram? Hard drive space? If you mean ram, then I think 7 similar or a little less... but I still don't understand why people want their RAM sitting their doing nothing anyways :confused: If you aren't using any large programs in XP, you can easily survive with 1 gig, but in Win7 if you have more at least it is put to good use pre-loading programs and such....
     
  27. Keith

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    I think he's referring to the "Release To Manufacturer" version. The version that will ship in October, but the OEM's get it a few months ahead of time so they can get all of their ducks in a row with respect to their hardware and software.
     
  28. Citizen86

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    Yes that's what it is, but he asked if he got the RTM if he would have to install the RC in October?? Maybe strife just had it mixed around.
     
  29. strife1013

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    ya, I think I had it mixed around =) or I travel through time :p
     
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    As an example with Vista 64 Bit CPUMark99 usually scored 388 with a best of 391. With Windows 7 I get a usual score of 398 and a best of 399. This was an inplace upgrade and not a freshly installed one too................
     
  31. Citizen86

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    ....Is that a large improvement? Seems like a bit dated program.
     
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    Quick question, i just got my referb 7805 today from tigerdirect and so i have Vista on it. If i were to upgrade to the RC would i have to reinstall everything, or would it just go over the Vista, cause someone already said that when W7 releases you would need to fresh install and i want to try it out.

    Also where do i get this beta?
     
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    Not a large improvement but I can say otherwise it is noticeable. It is a dated program but if you notice CPU usage is usually between 2-3% while idle in Vista 64. Since this is about a 2% increase in the benchmark itself it indicates a huge efficiency increase in the O/S.............
     
  34. Citizen86

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    There is an upgrade option when you install. Although if you can backup your files, I would do a clean install personally.

    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/download.aspx
     
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    I am running W7..it is great although I went from the semi-closed beta to the RC and now I am getting this..
     
  36. Citizen86

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    1. Lower the resolution on that pic please.
    2. Get newest graphics drivers. www.nvidia.com
     
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    I just got rid of it since you know what to do :p. Thanks.
     
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    Hey whats the difference between downloading the new drivers, also what do we search up GeForce 9m Series Notebook? And upgrading them according to this guide?
     
  39. Citizen86

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    Well with a fresh install, you just have to install, no uninstallation of drivers necessary. The Nvidia website is pretty straight forward, it'll ask which series, so for Zak it's the 9m series, then you choose which exact card, obviously the 9800m GTS, then choose which OS, being Win7 x86 or x64... depending on which one you installed :p

    @DawnsEclips: You don't have to follow that guide for the first time, since you don't need to uninstall any drivers yet.
     
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    I've been running W7 RC1 for over a month now with no issues. runs great. I play COD WAW about 4hrs a day and I get roughly 65-81fps. My temps are around 110-150 from ide to play, but all manageable. I say take the plunge.
     
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    When i was running the installer, it said that my Storage Controller wasn't going to work or something, it suggested that i upgrade the driver on the control panel, but i cant seem to find it. But after i have windows 7 down it doesn't seem to have any problems. What the hell?
     
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    Storage controller? Did you download video drivers or motherboard drivers?
     
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    not that i know of, the only system driver i downloaded since i got my laptop Friday morning was a driver for my graphics card. And i don't think that has anything to do with the storage controller. I mean my computer still seems fine right now but I'm just worried something much come up.
     
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    Hi Jessica from Microsoft Windows Client Team:

    You know what would be awesome?? Expanding that deal a little more south of the border. I could definitely use a Win7 upgrade for lke 600 pesos in Mexico ;)
     
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    Hi, I'd like to see the offer extended to "Ultimate" and it would be really great if we can do an inplace upgrade over the RC. It shouldn't be too hard with the version as you should be able to do an inplace ugrade over existing Vista installations.......
     
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    Yea, an offer for the wee versions of 7 does me no good. $50 of crap thats almost what I want is still not what I want. Take care of your big spenders too MS. Most of us probably paid for Vista Ultimate too. Or you're probably counting on us subsidizing the peon versions as usual.
     
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    *Running Windows 7*

    What I find strange about 7 is my laptop (P-7811 FX) no longer locks up like it did in Vista (both x86 and x64 versions had the lockup issue). I wish I could figure out why it does not occur in 7 as I still have some apps that will only run in Vista. (Currently dual booting Vista x64 and Windows 7 x64)
     
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    Perhaps it's one of the apps that are not working? What doesn't work though? So far for me, basically all Vista programs work in 7.
     
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    Mainly older games seems to give me the most issues in 7. Some flat out don't work while others have graphical and timing problems that make it impossible to play. Updating video drivers does absolutely nothing for the problem. Tinkering with NVIDIA Control Panel produces no results which leaves me to believe something isn't functioning correctly. /shrug D;
     
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    You could try the Virtual XP. So long as it isn't a game you should be fine. I installed it to try out on my P-7805u and it works. There is some pulsing and you don't get anywhere near full performance but you do get compatability.

    You can also try going to the runnable files and try running in XP mode etc too. Some programs you need to also set to run in Admin mode too.........
     
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