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    Swap Fn an Ctrl keys on Gateway P-7811 FX

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by man40, Mar 13, 2009.

  1. man40

    man40 Newbie

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    I'm so pissed from gateway's keyboard!!! I hate what they did with the Ctrl and the Fn keys. Everything else about the laptop is great.... except there is no bluetooth ????????? ???? 21 century laptop with no bluetooth???? another gateway intrigue... but I managed to order internal OEM bluetooth from ebay for 23$ (good bargain I think).

    Now go to the point. The keys...
    This is not for everybody. You do it on your own risk!!!
    First I searched for a software way to remap the two keys.... no success. there is no way on earth you can do that. there is simple proof of that and you can see it yourself once you open the keyboard. I mean open like this:

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    The tracks on the keyboard does not allow any mapping on the Fn key. not a software, not a firmware.. nothing. The only way to do that is to delete the "wires" and write new ones. For that matter, I've got a conductive pen who writes tracks on circuits. It is called Circuit Writer.
    Here is how the keyboard looked before I started:

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    The keyboard has three nylon layers the top and the bottom layers have the painted tracks who are my target. the middle layer is just a separator and isolates the conductive tracks from the top and the bottom. here how it looks after the surgery:

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    Notice that on some places the tracks cross. I put clear scotch tape between the original track and my "artistic" painting. Do not put more than one layer scotch and avoid more than one crossing on a place, otherwise the keys may pop up or press abnormal because of the greater thickness. write the tracks on scratch paper and find the best paths before you start. Notice also that you need to cut the old traces. it is good to have an Ohm meter with beeper to measure the resistance of your new "painting" :) here is what I used:

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    Here is the final result:

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    If somebody finds this article interesting I may give further explanations and answer to questions.

    DON'T GET USED TO THE PROPRIETARY! AVOID IT OR CHANGE IT!
     
  2. Tinselworm

    Tinselworm Notebook Deity

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    awesome fix! i wonder if this works with samsung laptops!
     
  3. JohnWhoTwo

    JohnWhoTwo Notebook Deity

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  4. Persnickety

    Persnickety Notebook Evangelist

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    Very impressive!
     
  5. E-wrecked

    E-wrecked BANNED

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    Genius. Brilliant. And I don't use those words often. +rep :D
     
  6. rfvijn

    rfvijn Notebook Geek

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    If you could perfect this, I would be more than willing to send you a keyboard to mod for me.

    I would also like the FN key near the arrow keys to be disabled :D.
     
  7. E-wrecked

    E-wrecked BANNED

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    he did perfect it..he just modded it. ;P Looks fairly straight forward. The keyboard is easy to remove, so with the pen you should be able to handle it no problems.
     
  8. agent14

    agent14 Notebook Consultant

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    Well done.
     
  9. motherpuncher22

    motherpuncher22 Notebook Consultant

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    wow good job and thanks for the write up
     
  10. dtwn

    dtwn C'thulhu fhtagn

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    Amazing work there. Detailed explanation and pictures too.
     
  11. roliath

    roliath Notebook Consultant

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    If i still had my 7811, i'd totally freaking do this.

    amazing work!
     
  12. sentence

    sentence Notebook Consultant

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    that is some awesome work you did there, i am already very used to the placement of the Ctrl key but i wouldnt mind having this done...to bad i cant bring my self to do it ^^ (lack of know-how) =P
     
  13. Persnickety

    Persnickety Notebook Evangelist

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    Me neither. That's what makes this so great. It's an engineer's way of doing things: "What, this thing doesn't work properly – go get me some gaffer tape and WD40 and I'll make this work. Oh, I need to chop something off too, so bring a hammer". I like that – it truly impresses me :D
     
  14. Captain Terror

    Captain Terror Notebook Guru

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    Friggin sweet.

    I don't think i'm brave enough to do it myself, but who knows... great, definitive tutorial too btw. = )
     
  15. jmms

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    awesome
    this was really annoying me
     
  16. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    Very, nice....... Now just go get a few spare ones and then sell them with a core cost............ :)
     
  17. aaronjb

    aaronjb Notebook Consultant

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    Awesome job. I have a circuit writer around here somewhere (from an old NV 7900GT volt mod), and I think I'll give this a shot as well.
     
  18. hanime

    hanime Notebook Evangelist

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    I used a program to reprogram the keys.
     
  19. jmms

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    you cannot program the fn key
     
  20. hanime

    hanime Notebook Evangelist

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    You are right. Sorry for jumping the gun. I thought I can do it to my P-7811 FX as I did it on my Asus EeePC. :)