The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    The most stable driver for 9800m GTS?

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by TnG2903, Oct 29, 2009.

  1. TnG2903

    TnG2903 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    41
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Does any one know what is the most stable driver for 9800M GTS on 7805uFX? I'm currently using windows 7 32 bit, with 191.07 driver, turning off Powermizer, but I still receive that kind of error (some thing about graphic driver has stopped responding and has just been recovered, this thing happen when I'm using battery.

    I've tried 181.71 driver and it's great, do not has any errors, but the performance is not very good, so I'm trying to find another driver. I've tried Dox and XF but none of them cure my pain T_T. This laptop is great, but man, I really hate nVidia now, why don't gateway choose ATI instead?
     
  2. Peter Bazooka

    Peter Bazooka Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    109
    Messages:
    642
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Unless things have changed since I had an ATI notebook gpu , they update their drivers far less often than Nvidia especially when it comes to notebooks. Have you tried 186.81 the official driver from Nvidia? I'm using it and do not have any issues but I also do not turn powermizer off (performance isn't noticeably degraded for me either).
     
  3. TnG2903

    TnG2903 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    41
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Thank you for your help ^^, but that driver is my first try, still nothing better. May be I am one of bad luck guy, because many people using this model do not have that problem :D.
     
  4. Jedi2155

    Jedi2155 Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    2
    Messages:
    50
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    16
    I've had my fair share of problems, but I am usually able to fix it through driver cleaner or other things. Try the latest one v191.00 listed as a sticky on this forum.
     
  5. grapejr

    grapejr Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    20
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    I wanna know too. I have used the 186.81 and i had problems.. Show nvidia kernel mode driver problem and the displays turns off/on..
    so i installed 179 and is working well.. :p
     
  6. AGlobalThreatsK

    AGlobalThreatsK Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    63
    Messages:
    653
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    There are lots of stable drivers for our laptops. I've been using the Dox 182.46 driver for a long time. I have never found anything wrong with it, and haven't found any reason to change. I'm using XP 32-bit so your experience may vary, however I use the same driver on other Vista 64 computers and have never had a problem with it.

    I used the Dox 185.20 driver before that, but would get random stuttering and occasional crashing at times with it.
     
  7. grapejr

    grapejr Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    20
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    AGlobalThreatsK, Can u give us the link where u had downloaded?
     
  8. AGlobalThreatsK

    AGlobalThreatsK Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    63
    Messages:
    653
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
  9. TnG2903

    TnG2903 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    41
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Finally, I've just returned to my beloved 181.71 BETA driver, work without any error, I have Powermizer turned on, nothing crash, it just slow down a bit. But it's fine. ^^ Thank you for your help

    @AGlobelTreatsK: I've tried your version, but it's still the same. May be these problem just happen on some random people, and the cure for it is variable among us ^^
     
  10. GTO_VR4

    GTO_VR4 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    25
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    32bit OS? arent all 7805u configs have 4gb ram?
     
  11. TnG2903

    TnG2903 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    41
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    yeah, 7805uFX all have 4GB RAM, if you're using a 32bit OS, you can only use 3GB RAM. But I do not think that's a problem, since 9800GTS reserved 1GB anyway ^^. One more thing is, 32bit OS have more software (and games) than 64bit, and they work more stable^^
     
  12. Kamin_Majere

    Kamin_Majere =][= Ordo Hereticus

    Reputations:
    1,522
    Messages:
    2,680
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Which is a complete and total myth, if not an out right lie ;)
     
  13. AGlobalThreatsK

    AGlobalThreatsK Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    63
    Messages:
    653
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    9800M GTS has 1 GB DEDICATED VRAM. If it is sharing 1 GB of RAM it has 2 GB total.
     
  14. wingmanjzx

    wingmanjzx Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Hi, my 7811 system is using 186.32 under windows 7 32bits, it is the most stable one I tried.

    I used 185.20 before, the system was stable but the GPU temp kept 44C when the room temp was 20C, and the GPU fan was always on; performance was not good enough, the graphic rating was below 6, probably 5.9 as I remember.
    Now with the 186.32, performance is much better(I have not tried games, should be good), and the GPU temp is between 38C to 46C most time. When the temp reaches 38C, the fan will be off; when the temp reaches 46C, the fan will be on. That can reduce the noise for a while and probably extend the life of the fan.

    I ever tried the official 186.81 which was unstable for my system, strange problems happened at that time, for exmaple, the windows could not be minimized or restored smoothly, gadgets would go up to the top randomly even if I did not check the option "always on top", so I finally gave it up.

    The 186.32 was got from microsoft windows update, the weird thing is I can not find this driver on laptopvideo2go.

    [​IMG]
    From Forum1
    [​IMG]
    From Forum1
    [​IMG]
    From Forum1
     
    Last edited by a moderator: May 7, 2015
  15. Tobuk

    Tobuk Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    35
    Messages:
    170
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    +1 Word...
     
  16. xarthos

    xarthos Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    56
    Messages:
    337
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Thats garbage I have Vista 64 and Windows 7 64 installed on 2 drives with tons of games. I can play every game under the sun without issue and the only ones I have any issues with are from like 10 years ago and guess what thats what compatibility mode is for. It does the trick in like 2 secs when you change the mode on the executable.

    There is no reason to be running a 32 bit OS on these laptops.
    Get the 191.05 or something from the laptop site and quit playing with old drivers.
    Good luck.
     
  17. TnG2903

    TnG2903 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    41
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    uhm, in fact, that's what happend

    huh, did I say anything wrong?
     
  18. xarthos

    xarthos Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    56
    Messages:
    337
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    The idea you proposed that 32 bit is more compatible and more stable for gaming versus 64 bit on these laptops is what was being talked about as a myth if not an outright lie. No one is blaming you. I've heard that before too but in all my testing and experience this is just not true.

    32 bit gives you backward compatibility with some really old code that won't run in a 64 bit mode. The funny thing is Vista and Winows 7 have program folders for 32 bit applications and can run 32 bit programs mostly without any issue at all. There just really is no reason to be running 32 bit at this point when you are running a fully compatible to 64 bit Core 2 Duo P8400 and 4 Gigs of Ram in these laptops. 32 bit sort of gimps you into using less than all your components.

    Vista 64 or now Windows 7 is more appropriate for the hardware and in my opinion highly stable and more adequate to the challenge of running the games new and old that we want to play.
     
  19. AGlobalThreatsK

    AGlobalThreatsK Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    63
    Messages:
    653
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    The problem comes in when the older software simply refuses to install even in compatibility mode. Most 32-bit software is fine in the Program Files (x86) folder, however there are programs out there that simply will not work unless they are in a 32-bit enviornment. Programs like virtualbox work great for some workarounds, but if you need to use components like firewire for example, you have no choice since that does not work in a virtual OS.

    I don't agree with what TnG2903 posted though, since he is posting his opinion as a fact. He simply could have said "I think ... " or "I feel that ....", but he instead posted it as a fact with no proof or supporting info.

    If you don't want to be using Vista or 7, you're going to have a hard time with XP 64-bit compatibility. Many users are still on XP 32-bit and it will be in use for a long time.

    32-bit vs 64-bit is a big discussion, and needs a thread of it's own if its going to continue.
     
  20. xarthos

    xarthos Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    56
    Messages:
    337
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I agree with everything you said AGlobalThreatsK but I would just add that my opinion is that these laptops really should be running a 64 bit operating system and if you have to have winxp run it in a virtualbox. The hardware really does shine as the platform for these 64 bit operating systems. It seems a waste to me to do 32 bit in this specific hardware environment.
     
  21. shinji257

    shinji257 Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    243
    Messages:
    1,041
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    56
    On 32-bit OS's you are limited by 4GB of total addressable space. So on XP 32-bit, Vista 32-bit, and Windows 7 32-bit it will report 3GB usable space. Maybe a little less due to other components but you lose 1GB right away due to addressing needs by the graphics card.

    On 64-bit OS's you will be able to use the entire 4GB of ram since the addressable space is much higher.

    The graphics card does have 1GB dedicated to itself and in 64-bit OS's the addressing range for it is above the system ram but in 32-bit OS's it is forced to share the same range as system ram and hence you have less to work with.
     
  22. AGlobalThreatsK

    AGlobalThreatsK Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    63
    Messages:
    653
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I don't even use 1 GB of RAM :). I don't care about the 4GB of RAM, I care that it's 1066MHz DDR3.

    The hardware really does shine in my XP too. 3dmark06 will score higher in XP than Vista when comparing identical setups, and I don't need DX10.

    I'll use 7 again when someone finds a way to get EWF working with it. Once you get used to no problems and 100% consistency you just can't imagine using anything else.

    We are way off topic.
     
  23. selvagem

    selvagem Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    6
    I'm currently struggling the same problem as TnG2903 is with my P-7809u.

    Only 181.71 driver works well for me. All other sooner or later crashes while watching video. Link to my thread.

    I'm using Windows 7 64-bit.
     
  24. TnG2903

    TnG2903 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    41
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    ^^, my bad, I'm really sorry, man.
    My mother language is not English, and my English is not very good, please forgive me if I said anything silly ^^. I'm a VietNamese :D

    I think I will try windows 7 professional x64 ^^, thanks to MSDN AA, I can have whatever key I want ^^