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    Third time was not the charm...ARGH. (7811)

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by evancg, Sep 29, 2008.

  1. evancg

    evancg Notebook Consultant

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    First laptop - Defective GPU. Furmark would hit 80 in a matter of minutes and the screen would get artifacts and reboot. It got to the point the laptop would artifact at the BIOS.

    Second laptop - Red bright pixel smack dab in the middle of the screen. CPU stability issues (Prime95 kept having problems).

    Third laptop - Noisy power adapter (replaced at BB with adapter from first laptop), hard drive is trying to cook itself (at idle it floats around 60, even with the front listed), and the GPU seems to heat up faster than it did on the second one (still doing some stability testing). Lastly, if you cut the screen into 4ths, the top right is fine, but top left and bottom right has a tiny hint of blue when displaying white, and the bottom left shows a super light blue instead of white (and it doesn't matter what angle you look at it from).

    Has anyone experienced the blue "wave"? It's not like it's uneven lighting where it's darker...it actually makes things look blue. For example, on google.com or even this website, if I max the browser the top right is white, but the bottom left of the screen looks like the background is a light blue. I tried to take pictures but it doesn't come through very well.

    So...another exchange at best buy I suppose. I'm tempted to wheel and deal and see if they'll sell me the Toshiba X305-Q701 for the sale price I paid for the 7811 (or at the very least, match the sale price of the Toshiba from a couple weeks ago of $1350). I think I've nearly exhausted their current stock of 7811 with exchanges due to faulty laptops. This is so frustrating...
     
  2. E-wrecked

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    I notice that I have a good bit of light blue hues on my screen as well.. hope it came thru with the screen shot. :err:
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  3. evancg

    evancg Notebook Consultant

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    Did you do a screen shot using your computer software or actually take a picture? I don't think it's a software issue, I think it's an LCD issue, so it would only show up with an actual picture of the LCD, and probably only with a higher quality camera (and I don't want to try and dig out the wifes DSLR).

    I played through the Crysis demo and maxed out at 72C on the GPU. I played the first level of fear at max everything and maxed out at 65C. I restored my drive using Acronis TrueImage from the image I made of my original 7811, and it maxed out the HD temp at 64C. It's actually down to 55C now under very light load.

    I'm almost tempted to say screw it, a little blue never killed anyone (it is my favorite color, after all). I do intend to do some photo and graphic work on this, so it would be annoying if I could never tell how white something was, but.....the exchange game is frustrating.
     
  4. nomoredell

    nomoredell Notebook Deity

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    hard to believe p7811 has these many hardeware issues, after all, the only selling point of this computer is the hareware.
     
  5. E-wrecked

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    I should apologize evan.. I was just joshin ya. The NBReview site is all blue hued with the frames and such. But, I do hope that yours treats you well. No harm intended. By the way, nomoredell's pic in his sig has some blue and white light craziness ;)
     
  6. evancg

    evancg Notebook Consultant

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    I figured you might be, but I was referencing the white background BEHIND all the blue :p
     
  7. nomoredell

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    im short sighted, blue & white will help my eyesight,
    they will do less further damage to my eyes.
     
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    Did ya try digital vibrance? johnksss swears by it.. maybe that with some tweaking of the tones and such may make a big difference? :)
     
  9. evancg

    evancg Notebook Consultant

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    It certainly makes the white more vibrant. Also makes the blue more vibrant. Doh :)
     
  10. Johnksss

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    is that good or bad though?
     
  11. evancg

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    It makes the blue tinted white area of my screen more blue\white. That's what I meant. It should just be white.
     
  12. Johnksss

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    well you got me there. in this situation....
    i would take it back to best buy and compare it with the other laptops there. starting with that display model. just look what i did with mine. just to see how bright my screen was against the competition...*LOL*

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    you have to start getting creative to get those real answers..... :)
     
  13. evancg

    evancg Notebook Consultant

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    Well compared to the first two 7811's I had, the screen has a definite color issue. It's not terrible, but it's very annoying, particularly when I try to do any graphic or photo work (it looks white in one part of the screen, and super light blue in another...)

    Time for another exchange, or trying to work a deal on the Toshiba.
     
  14. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    try running the screen optimization wizard in the Nvidia control panel? It will help set your gamma and such properly.
     
  15. evancg

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    I did all kinds of color adjustments. All of the color adjustments affected the entire screen, meaning it didn't resolve the issue of one section of the screen having a significant blue tint. If the whole screen had the blue tint, this could fix it. Since part of the screen displayed white normally, any adjustments made caused that section of the screen to be too light (since making the blue tint section brighter or raising the gamma did make it a more natural white). Making the screen really dark helped too, but then it was way too dark (like somewhere between using the Fn+Brightness button to lower the backlight and raise the backlight).
     
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    well you screen is right f u c k e d then. I say return it, I wouldnt be happy with it.
     
  17. nomoredell

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    nothing wrong with the quality of that lcd, just the way its designed to be, too much color saturation.

    for graphic design, u can get that rgb+led display from dell m6400,
    or just a much cheaper macbook pro.
     
  18. evancg

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    Well I know there was something wrong with my laptop because I had two prior 7811 and neither of them had the problem. I compared it to the floor model too, and it didn't have the problem.
     
  19. lewdvig

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    I don't think the screenshot will help us see the problem.

    The screen is blue, not the frame buffer. If the frame buffer is blue that would be an easy fix.
     
  20. Johnksss

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    yep...i just ran a check on the screen versus my lg screen in the 6860..and the lg is smoking the AU. evancg & lewdvig are correct. the screen does in fact have a blue haze over it. and it's dimmer than the lg.

    and now im having a bit more understanding by what you mean...when you say grainy. i think it's because of the blue haze, because my lg does not have that at all and it's much brighter.
     
  21. evancg

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    The display model\previous models I had may even have been similiar, it's hard to say for sure. The main issue with the last one I returned is that it was horribly uneven. If the whole screen has a slight blue tint, then you can at least do some color adjustments to make it a little better.

    In this screens case, the top right was actually very clear. The rest of the screen wasn't so nothing I looked at was uniform - I had to move images around the screen to make sure the color was accurate.

    I have high hopes for laptop number four!
     
  22. nomoredell

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    correct about what? lcd screen is refreshed twice a year just like intel cpus.
    its not the brand, its the specs, this au screen is made in y2007, ofc its not as good as current models, even so, it still costs u $200 on ebay.
     
  23. Johnksss

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    not sure what your getting at. we we're talking about the blue haze.
    and my lg was made in 07, but still looks better. and cost me 320 bucks then.
     
  24. Diablo

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    where the heck is it? im looking for it and cant find it.

    edit: woohoo for 5th dot!
     
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    What's a good level to set digital vibrance at?
     
  26. Diablo

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    whatever looks aesthetically pleasing to your eyes is a good level.