What speaker system are you guys using with 7811 fx?

I mean the speakers that are built in are ok for WoW or something but obviosuly not listening to music, need some bass.

 

When I'm at home in the living room I connect up (via optical S/PDIF) to my Denon amp with Mordant-Short Genies in a 7.1 setup - stunning sound quality and look pretty cool too.

When I'm anywhere else I use a pair of Audioengine A2B Desktop Speakers - awesome for little speakers, thoroughly recommended.

 

Where is the optical S/PDIF in 7811fx? I can't find it.

 

Built into the headphone jack. You need an adapter.

 

Thanks these look nice..

 

Forgot to say, I use a pair of Etymotic hf2 earphones too. They beat any speaker I've ever heard for sound precision.

 

i love my Etymotic as well, might have through this b4...

btw do you get full 7.1 on the amp ?

 

Yeah if I output DTS-ES or Dolby Digital EX over the S/PDIF I get a true 7.1 signal at my amp.

Yeah think we have mentioned the Etymotics b4

 

Etymotic hf2 - thinking of buying a pair when my 401K RECOVERS!!!!!

Holy gold plate, $170+ for earphones!

 

What type/brand? ....any links to a good one

Same thing? I have a Denon 2809CI and would want to run the FX to it. What cabling are you using (i.e. adapter/cable). Im glad to get some form of confirmation that the FX can pass through to a true AVR multi-channel sound. So that good really????

 

You need a TOSLink to Mini-TOSLink cable:

http://www.tvcables.co.uk/images/items/pgd582.jpg

Plug the Mini-TOSLink end into your headphone jack and the other into the back of your amp.

 

I am lazy and just use the speakers built in. I have 3 older laptops sitting around that all have MUCH louder and better sounding speakers than my 7811 - I am so tempted to try and convert them over to my 7811. I just don't want to void my warranty....

 

Thanks for the response.

Do you know if your Denon is taking in a full multi-channel signal (5.1/7.1) from the FX or is it taking in 2 channel and matrix'ing it to multi-channel
i.e. can you tell if there is discrete and seperate center channel, surround and LFE sounds?

Just curious because the FX specs says under audio - High Def 2 channel

 

someone on another thread said he gets full 7.1. as to denon i read some of their amps have some compatibility issues but that was using hdmi, the tosslink should have no issues

 

When you output a signal straight out over the S/PDIF the on-board sound processing is bypassed so your amp will receive whatever the original source material is encoded in. However the more recent lossless formats (referred to as hi-def sound) cannot be output via S/PDIF due to bandwidth limitations, namely Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA - they can only be run over HDMI or analogue cables.

So yes if I play a DVD or an .mkv with a DTS-ES or Dolby Digital EX soundtrack and output directly to S/PDIF I get a full 7.1 multi-channel experience - and it rocks

 

What really sucks about most pc optical spdif/toslink outputs is that they do not do Dolby Digital or DTS encoding so you can't get surround sound for gaming. A few PC sound cards do encoding in hardware but only a few and that doesn't apply to laptops. And Microsoft could have easily implemented in DirectX but chosen to fail their consumers yet again.

Of course in theory you can have LPCM 7.1 via HDMI but I am not sure what laptops or games can output their 7.1 via HDMI.

 

How I thought it would be is if the laptop doesn't support or encode the lossless formats but the receiver can then you won't miss out as the receiver will do it for you before outputting it to the speakers. Your saying that S/PDIF has a bandwith limiation, I didn't think that audio had much of anythign band width wise as optical is still a digital medium.

 

You're right I didn't mean bandwidth limitations, I meant copy protection limitations. S/PDIF has a maximum bandwidth of 25Mbps so theoretically it could even carry 7.1 HD audio formats (Dolby Digital TrueHD and DTS-MA) but in practice HDCP restrictions do not allow this. Unfortunately the HDMI port on the 6831/6860 (not sure about the 7811) is only v1.2 and for HD audio passthrough you need v1.3. So the current maximum quality that either the HDMI or SPDIF can carry is 7.1 DTS-EX which runs at about 12Mbps.

 

Nice, by your sig I see your running a 6831 not a 7811. Is there any reason to assume that the 7811 shouldn't be able to do the same (maybe better?)

 

It will definitely do the same, if not more. If it has a v1.3 HDMI port (which I think it has) it will even do HD audio passthrough.

 

I wonder how one could determine if the HDMI out on the 7811 is v1.3? I don't see mention anywhere in the online specs.

 

Have you tried hooking up your FX via the HDMI into your Denon? According to this review they were able to pass 7.1 audio through HDMI bitstream. Have you tried it.

http://www.slashgear.com/gateway-p-6831fx-gaming-laptop-review-1810786/

 

My amp doesn't have any HDMI ports unfortunately so I can't test it but it should work fine.

Looks like the 7811 has a v1.3a port so it does support HD audio passthrough:

http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?68484

 

PLEASE REPLY. I REALLY NEED YOUR HELP!

I am a proud p-7811fx owner,however I am very frustrated about the fact that even though i bought the cable shown in the link above, when I hooked up the laptop to the logitech z-5500 system it only recognized the sound as DolbyDigital Stereo!! I tried to use various sources with both DTS and Dolby Digital (5.1) formats but the only think I could do was to upmix the sound using DolbyProLogicMovie mode from my z-5500.

I know for sure that the HDMI out is v1.3 and it delivers multi-channel audio but i REALLY need to know if I can get 6-channel audio with the SPDIF adapter (in the audio playback settings menu from windows there seem to be only "2-channel" options for the SPDIF even though IT IS enabled to decode DTS audio)!

Please email me if you have a solution for me, you'd be doing me a huge favour!

 

Klipsch are emazing I use promedia 2.0's and they sound fantastic

https://www.klipsch.com/products/details/factory-refurbished-groove-pm20.aspx

https://www.klipsch.com/products/details/factory-refurbished-promedia-ultra-2-0.aspx

 

What are you using to play your 5.1 sources? If you use something like PowerDVD or AC3Filter (if you use your own player and filters) you should be able to select S/PDIF as the direct output.

 

I guess if you want some speakers that down sound like a laptop these.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3310823&Sku=L23-7249


I'm sure these would be good.

 

OK, after hours and hours of brainstorming I solved the puzzle!!!

The SPDIF output is 100% able to transmit DTS and Dolby Digital sound.

I am using AC3 filter for sound but I had to change the settings on that, as well as on the media player classic (home cinema edition) a few dozen times!!!

After I wiped all codecs a couple of times, I ended up reinstalling coreAVC (can't seem to get ffdshow tryout to work properly) and AC3 filter and (of course) after selecting SPDIF output as the default output EVERYWHERE, I think the key to success was that I had to select mpclassic NOT to decode audio at all and instead use the AC3 external filter to do it!
That did it (I think).

Now I am experiencing true theater sound and amazing resolution from this best-laptop-deal-ever!

Cheers!

 

That's fantastic news. Thanks for the info. And I too am enjoying the 7811. What a great deal.

 

You also need to enable DTS over S/PDIF in AC3Filter options if you have any DTS sources.

 

Right. SPDIF->Z-5500=that's how I listen to my collection of Porcupine Tree DTS DVDs

giorginho7 - mate, you don't have to phuk so long with AC3 thing. Just download k-lite megapack and after the install completes - check the box for Configure AC3Filter. Then you just change the output to AS IS, check the SPDIF passthrough, DTS, MPEG and AC3 to SPDIF + don't forget to check the Detect SPDIF stream in PCM data, Use AC3 Encoder, Do not encode stereo PCM.

That's it. You'll be able to pass all the stuff - your dvd-audio, dts and PCM data straight out to the Z-5500 decoder.

Except for 1 thing. If you're gaming - don't forget to attach the analog cables. Digital cables won't give you the true headbanging 5.1 sound in your Left 4 Dead ))

 

I'm getting a set of Triton AXPRO in a few days. I'll be using those.

At the moment I've just been using the default speakers, a pair of bose in ear earphones, or platronics gametronic (something like that) headset-- that one is my fathers though, so I don't use it often.