Why won't Gateway let us overclock our CPU?

I think this is really ridiculous and considering the fact that many 7805u out there are refurb (they won't have to take care of warranty), its about time they release a BIOS that would allow us to use setFSB. On the G50, even a bump from 2.26 to 2.53 is noticeable. Why Gateway? Why?

 

Many notebook manufacturers do this simply because your notebook is designed with a certain amount of heat dissipation in mind. Overclocking, as we know, will increase the amount of heat created and therefore should not be attempted on a laptop that does not have plenty of cooling.

Of course, you could potentially combat that by undervolting and overclocking both at the same time; but remember that a person is clever, but people are stupid. Imagine all those people that would destroy their machines by pushing them beyond the limits of the notebooks cooling capacity.

I for one fully agree with restricting notebook overclocking.

Also, the jump from 2.26 to 2.53 is for the most part going to yield minor improvements for probably over 50% of users.

 

I see what you mean but

1) The P8400 runs ice cold, it never go over 50 something deg at full load. Others who upgraded are experiencing more heat but the heat sink seems efficient enough to handle it.

2) Those who overclock are mostly "advanced" users who are aware of the risks and benefits and those who need the extra performance for lets say, gaming.

 

Have to agree with Fragilexx

but I just wish that they could release a new BIOS that allows CPU overclocking the future. It's the personal freedom that we could do whatever we like to what we've paid for.

 

Sorry but I really have to disagree with this.

Advanced users would know that overclocking a 2.26GHz CPU is going to yield very little performance in gaming. Also, having options available means that people will experiment, experienced or not.

 

For every "professional" user there's a 13 year old out there who would jack up their P8400 well past operating limits simply because they want it to "be faster."

 

Ok fine, then why not include a turbogear software like Asus that overclocks just 20%?

 

That one is simple - Gateway doesn't care what Asus does.

 

Overclocking by "just" 20% could still be too much. The machines that have turbo buttons have been designed with that overclocking in mind.

This is an argument that will never have a successful outcome in your favour, as Destruyax put it, for every professional user there are inexperienced users who will try it anyway.

 

That doesn't mean all 13 year old people are not knowledgeable to notice that there won't be a noticeable increase in performance.

Instead of overclocking, just upgrade your CPU, if you really need the boost though.

 

Agreed, which is why I said "inexperienced" rather than 13 year olds. I built my first computer when I was 12 or 13, and could already program in two different languages. Keep in mind that when I was 13 we didn't use computers in schools - well except the BBC Micro in some design technology classes

 

exactly. i bought it and i should be able to tear it up as much as i want to. Again all Gateway has to do to cover their hide is say that OC'ing(CPU or GPU) voids the warranty. Im not sure what their thoughts of not allowing OC'ing is but i would like to find out why.

 

And how are they supposed to know if it has been OC'ed?...

 

Like Fragile said, even if you were able to overclock your cpu, you wouldn't get very far to the point of noticing any significant performance increases. These are notebook processors, not i7's.

 

OK, but you're not considering the PR & customer service nightmare that would happen as a result.

Seriously, there is no point in continuing this conversation. Gateway (and many other notebook dealers) do not allow you to do it. You can't do it. End of.

 

the point is it should have been included, this is a performance gaming line, and should be able to take the heat, and it can.

People have X7800s and X9000 and heck, even Gateway offered a model with the X7900 in it, clearly the heat is not the problem, they were just too lazy, IMO, to use a proper BIOS for a gaming machine.

It could clearly state in the manual that damage cause by use of this is not covered blah blah blah, and there would be no issues.

 

OK, but my point is that it's not included, it's not likely to be changed, why carry on? Take the issue up with Gateway; complaining about it on here is not going to change a thing.

 

Oh I agree, nothing will change, it definitely will stay the same.

 

Well no, it could change - but people need to contact Gateway about it. If enough people do so then it will no doubt be considered. I said it was not likely to be changed, but certainly it wont be changed via posting on these forums

 

Most likely not, I know some manufacturers such as Alienware, and especially Sager, are very active on these forums and take our feedback, dont think Gateway is that concerned.

These laptops are a pretty big hit, can hardly be found anywhere, I think they are sitting quite content as of now, why would they change anything.

Although it would be just as simple as them allowing for FSB access so we could use programs like SetFSB.

 

The problem with the setFSB idea is that gateway cant control that. The crystal we(gateway) use is safe mode enabled so with out swapping out the chip we cant use a FSB overclock.

The BIOS OC for the extreme CPU's would be really nice though. I'm running 32degrees at 3.0gHz i would love to attempt to push 3.6ish

 

haha maybe I should know what im talking about before I open my mouth

 

What I find odd is that Gateway went through the trouble of making a great cooling system for this thing and didnt allow overclocking. Both Asus and MSI allow O.C. but they also both use inferior cooling in comparison. They all only have 1 heatsink and 1 fan on some models

 

More like 1 professional to ever 30 or more non-savvy. Be it 13 year old or elder.

I never admit I'm tech savvy anymore. I just go, "I don't know." So they leave me alone.