WoW and the 6831 FX

Hey everyone, I was just wondering if there werew any 6831 owners who play World of Warcraft; what settings you guys were using and what FPS are you recieving? Anyways, any info would be greatly appreciated.

 

I would assume it plays fine with everything on high? Funny story, I bought this laptop for WoW, and ended up not playing WoW anymore after getting it.

 

w/ T5550
3gb ram
2x200gb HDD raid0

Max at 60fps depending on population and location
Shattrath avg 45-47fps
Old world cities- TB, SW, IF, UC, etc... 60fps
5mans avg about 45-47fps
Raids and bgs avg 25-30fps

all settings at max with native res 1440x900



w/ T9300
3gb ram
2x200gb HDD raid0

same as above except an increase of 2fps in all areas

thought i have a big increase with the T9300 but overall, no improvement at all.

and besides, WoW is a light application compared to CoD4, CoH, crysis, etc

 

I get a 50-65fps with no interfaces.
10-20fps w/ all my interfaces. lol.

 

why do you have such a low fos in game like wow

 

On my 6860 (stock, 177.66 drivers) I get around 30 FPS average in Shat (20 low, 50 high) and usually something between 50 and 120 for the rest of the world environments and 25-man raids. I'm wireless but there isn't much difference I've noticed between that and being plugged in directly. WoW is tough to gauge since you have a good deal of variables to consider with server load, location, etc. I run all high @ 1440x900, but I've turned ground clutter to minimum since server lag was painting it late anyway. I am probably going to turn on Vsync again as well, which caps you at 60-ish FPS anyway.

 

fps in wow is gonna have alot of variables...population, server you play on, number of mods running, number of programs running in background, and most important graphic settings and driver.

I of course have all settings on and at max and I average around 35-45fps and that's an avg of all places- cities, bgs, 5mans, raids, etc with about 8 mods running.

I have before in the past lowered all my settings to medium low and hit around 90 fps.

so don't expect to get high fps in wow... wow is not a good fps benchmark.... too many variables

 

I play wow on my 8600m GT with max settings 1920x1200 resolution at 60fps. So I dont think an 8800m GTS will have an issue

 

WoW is not that demanding on systems, these laptops run it just fine as does my AMD 1.8ghz single core based desktop.

 

It seems weird that 8600 GT gives you 60 @ WUXGA whilst 8800 GTS gives you 35 at WXGA!
according to what people report. Do you have all settings maxed out?

I looked at notebookcheck and it says that 9800 GTS (upcoming model) ranks higher than 8800 GTX
I was thinking of getting 9800 GTS but it's old counterpart gives such crappy performance in a 4 year old game...

I'm planning to use 1920x1200 terrain and distance slider box maxed, do you think I can consistently hit 60+,
with the exception of raids using 9800GTS?

Also it's weird that notebokcheck ranked 8600GT as being on the same level as 6800 non - ultra.
I had 6800 Non - ultra, until it fried couple of days ago, and I can tell you it was far from 60 at 1920x1200.
Assuming you have all settings enabled except vsync and reasonable AF/Multisampling.

With terrain and distance maxed out at 1920x1200 I would probably get 10-15 fps.
I know processor helps but how do you justify 400% increase in performance
out of card that ranks about the same on notebookcheck?

 

doesn't seem weird to me, key words here are variables. he could be playin with no mods, low graphic setting, vsync off, low pop server. so nothing odd. bit I would like to know his graphic settings

 

Yeah all the sliders are all the way to the right and I have all the other goodies selected (minus the ones that may increase performance). WoW is an old game and I mean old there is no reason why you would only get 35 on an 8800gts mobile or not. As for the processor my single core turion from 2005 wont even creat a bottle neck for WoW, and pretty much anything produced today will crush WoW with great ease. Heck I had a yonah 1.66Ghz with x1600 and at 1280x1800 and max settings I get max fps.

The 8600GT is much better then a 6800.

I have the current mods:

Bartender or bonogs depending on which bugs out the most on my druid forms
GEM
XPERL suite
Cycircle
recount
OMEN
Rouge classic combo/enegery bar
ecasting bars and exp bar
Fubar suite
mini map bag mod (forgot the name)
decursive
healbot
and a few more Im forgetting as I havent been raiding in about a week or so.

As for vsync I have that enabled, and the pop on my server is medium-high (fluctuates alot from med-high). As I stated in my last post all sliders are maxed to the right and all the goodies selected minus the ones that increase performance.

Remeber people WoW is almost a 4 year old game.

 

Just found this screen shot before I quit AoC. Everyone knows AoC was alot harder on a system then WoW and with my tweaking I was able to get 20-30FPS in a city and 30-40FPS outside , both with peaks much higher, on my 8600m GT.

Settings were custom tweaked by yours truely, and res was 1920x1200 etremely playable as well as looked alot better then the default medium settings.



So as you can see you can do alot more then you think with a mid range card. Now had I gone with the FX instead of the dell (it was a close call) I could easily max 1920x1200 on AoC as the 8800GTS is alot more powerful then an 8600gt.

 

Which location do you use when you get 60 fps?
Are there a lot of players around?
Is it in a desert or a terrain - intensive forest?
Old World or Outland?
Can you tell us what your fps is when you hover in Shattrah/BG/raids, keeping all settings maxed?

 

I really dont watch my fps since it plays smooth and doesnt lag. But Id say 50-60 in most cases and dipping to 45-50FPS MAYBE if my screen looks like this:


...and yes that is me MTing rage winter chill with salv on my druid to prove a point. Basically what Im saying is this game was designed to work easy on 6xxx/Xxxx cards, so anything 8xxx/2xxx + will decimate WoW dependign on your setup. Also I do have alot of other things running when Im playing wow, typically streaming music, AIM, ventrillo, and alot of times Ill have an RDp or two open and a few file transfers/backups running.

 

I haven't ran WoW on my FX, but AoC ran 1440x900, everything maxed, including maxed draw distances, AFx16, and Shader Model 3.0 to achieve 35+ FPS. If I knocked SM down to 2.0, I could get 50+FPS, but it didn't look at detailed.

I have posted screen shots in the "AoC Discussion", if anyone needed proof.

 

Yeah with my custom settings it looked alot better then the default medium setting and at 1920x1200 I got 20-30 in cities and 30-40 with sometimes higher FPS. So if I can get that in AoC then I can do pretty much anything in WoW.

 

One thing I didn't mention is I'm currently running WoW in DX9 mode.

 

Can you post a 1920x1200 screenie with max graphic settings of you hovering in the middle of Shattrah with the fps counter enabled pls (if it's not too much trouble)?

 

WoW only works with DX9.

 

Ill try and remeber when I get home, do you want my toon to hold up something to prove its me?

 

That's what I thought as well, but I had read somewhere (I thought on here) about forcing apps to dx9 by editing the shortcut path. /shrug. not really a difference anyway.

And tanking Rage w/salv is pretty funny.

 

I was proving to the guild I just left that I should be the guild MT not only because I out gear all other tanks but no other tank can touch my threat generation (Ive peaked over 2.6k TPS on Leo in t4)

 

What server you on? I would have loved to see an Omen ss as well.

 

Executus - US. You?

 

Blackhand - US
Abison is my main toon.

 

Dyeus is mine Feral druid Pew Pew

 

How is Executus as a Horde server anyway? I've been pretty happy with Blackhand's level of competition on both sides of the fence.

 

Some of you guys seem quite low. My 6860 (completely stock except clean install) rarely dips bellow 50 FPS in WoW and averages around 100fps. This is with the highest settings and native resolution. Maybe your server is affecting it?

 

Its ok I guess. I have been here since right after the server opened (early 2006) and it was alot better pre bc. There are alot of elitists as well as TBC has spawned alot of really bad players on all realms.

 

one of my posts pretty much lists the variables of what can cause the fps to drop

 

As requested, here are my SS's. 2 in org (1 inside an 1 outside), 1 flying over shat, and one pic of my setup flying over shat. COme chat with me onexecutus if you need anymore proof.

Specs of my rig are in sig but mostly I'm using an 8600m GT DDR2. With vsync and triple buffering I can see 78+ FPS but really anything above 25ish you wont see a difference.

 

Anyone recommend any specific sets of drivers for the 6860 for mainly running WoW?

 

177.66 have been pretty good for me. Much better than 177.41.

 

Agreed, going from vsync with 50-65 FPS to no vsync with 78FPS+ was a huge jump. As for mods I listed some of mine (minus Xperl since it is quite a waste) so with max settings, a good amount of mods, vsync enabled, medium-high pop server and flying over shat I get 60-61fps.

 

honestly imo, I tried just about all the latest drivers up to 177.66 and I haven't seen any noticable gains/losses.

you'll be fine with stock drivers seeing upwards up to 60fps with vsync on.

25-30ish fps should be your minimum fps... if u dip below that margin, check what hoggin your resources and possibly could be your bandwidth (ex. wow downloader is a killer on bandwidth)

 

You guys realize WoW is a bit of a CPU hog, too. The T5550 isn't a bad CPU, but could be one of the reasons for holding the framerate back.

 

Why is there a large screen on your pic? Did you connect your laptop to a 28" monitor?

Also that pic in Shattrah doesn't have any people inside it! You are essentially looking at a roof, What I was hoping for a panoramic shot with the running groups of dranae and large pieces of arcitecture. If you just stare at a floor it's not hard to get 60 fps.

I just wish there was a way which you could see 2 screens
of roughly the same locations on Gateway 8800m GTS vs 8600m GT

And Also I went on cnet.com and they reviewed P8400, which is
the new "Montevina" with 3mb level 2 cache and it sucked compared
to T9300 that has 6mb. From what I hear DDR3 doesn't make a lot of difference either.

And keep in mind that the processor that 6860FX uses is even crappier than P8400!

So I think that those 3mb extra cache trump Montevina and DDR3.
So right now I need to determine if 9800GTS or 8800GTS can make up
for the crappy processor in games.

But it's only possible if you and the other guy who said he was getting
30-45 fps with 8800GTS in Shat are getting those fps from the same location using same settings.

 

My yonah 1.66GHz wasnt maxed by WoW so I dont think the FX CPU will be maxed.

What about the two org pics where several people are running around me? and yes Im connecting my laptop to a 24in LCD I have that would otherwise collect dust. Either way what I get 60FPS and people moving around may bump me top 50-55fps but I doubt it. But you also said a pic of my flying over Shat and Im moving at the time so you got what you wanted.

 

Actually I just realized u use T8100 on your Vostro
so you shouldn't get any advantage due to your processor,
so there's only 4 possible solutions:

1. Either you and other guy compare 2 different locations

2. 8600m GT is better than 8800m GTS,
which it isn't according to Notebookcheck...

3. Something is wrong with his laptop.

4. vysync.

/Edit actually I'm too lazy to check specs of their prossecors can someone post their exact specs of laptops their using side by side again

 

Notebookcheck wrong? Won't the first time. In this case, however, it happens to be right.

 

I'm pretty sure the CPU has something to do with it. That is why is framerate isn't as stable as yours.

 

A stock 6860 should be able to max WoW out with all the graphics settings on high (or checked) and get at least 50ish fps everywhere. WoW isn't much of an anything hog on newer model computers.

 

8800gts>8600GT by alot. If I had a 8800 in my system Id be seeing like 100FPS easy. WoW isnt a hog on any hardware that is made today. But still the FX has a far superior graphics card then my vostro so there is no reason to see less then max FPS at max settings, especially since they use 1440x900 res on the 6860. Oh and does notebookcheck say that the 8600gt is better? cause that couldnt be more wrong.

 

Notebookcheck says that 8800GTS is better,
but then why that guy says he only get 30-45 fps on WXGA+
when you claim to get more than that on WUXGA?
There's is a discrepancy, because it's not plausible to have such significantly
lower performance out of a supposedly better card.

 

Oh ok I thought you said that they claimed the 8600 was better. There is some underlying issue here, as I stated I could get better fps on my old yonah based laptop then the 8800gts guy did. Bad driver, software issues (OS or corruption) or possibly even a hardware issue. I agree though that there is a discrepency, but it is not with me as I have taken SS's and such to prove what my card can do. So saying I claim something after posting SS's per your request proving my claim is kind of disturbing. You know my card can do what I claim and there should be no doubt in my proven claim. Something is going wrong on his end and if a fresh format/new drivers doesn't remedy the issue, there may be a hardware issue with his card.