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    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by TANWare, Mar 26, 2011.

  1. TANWare

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    Well soon I'll be upgrading this so to see the improvement I've been benchmaring the system as it is now. a question though is those with 1440x900 screens what does 3DMark Vantage default too?

    Below is default screen (1280x1024) as x9100 @ 3.45 GHz video as 690/890/1725, physx off and then on.
     

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    how do you turn phyX on?

    nvm.. got it.. lol
     
  3. TANWare

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    two things actually, be sure in the nVidia control panel the Physx is set to GPU and then in Vantage when you select disable PPU you turn Physx off....
     
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    Ok, gotcha
     
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    two more for you guys. Dirt2 DX10 ultra preset settings (not everything goes to ultra) 4xAA in both 1440x900 and 1920x1200. needless to say it is very playable..........
     

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    testing heat and stability and GPUz.........
     

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    3DMark06, even at 1920x1200 it gets a score that would rival some middle to low end cards at default resolutions. Scores nicely at 1440x900 too.............
     

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    one more for comparison to the new board when it is in, FFVIX benchmarks.....
     

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    You're getting a new motherboard for the laptop?
     
  10. TANWare

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    Yes, I have ordered one of the P79xx boards and a Q9200 ES. The cpu is known to alow overclocking with TS just like an extreme CPU. I will however first I want to try the CPU out on the stock board. I doubt it will work but I still want to take my shot at it.
     
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    If you don't mind me asking how much did you get the new board for?
     
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    435 + S&H off fleabay.............
     
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    nice nice. I was thinking about getting a QX9300 and oc it to 3.5
     
  14. TANWare

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    qx9300, even ES, is expensive. The q9200 is 268 and they overclock too. I runthe x9100 @ 3.2 GHz normally and poduction 3.45 GHz. I can push to 4.00 GHz but I don't like to get that close to the edge.

    I am hoping with the quad for at least 2.66 GHz normal and 2.92 GHz for production. I have no idea what the 260m will yeild, hopefullly better. I think at stock speeds it should run as good if not better than the 9800m GTS overclocked...............

    Edit;
    I am mainly hoping to increase productivity on my time consuming proccesses. Although I do these rarely, here are the tests;

    1.) Canon DPP batch proccess 136 images from raw to JPG = 893 seconds
    2.) Xilisoft conversion HD video to DivX = 510 seconds

    Adding a picture of DPC latency too
     

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    If you don't mind me asking, why not buy a new system instead? Seems like a lot of money to upgrade to something not much faster...

    I had a p-7805u for 2 years and loved it... I just recently got a G73SW and the difference is night and day for what I do (mostly encoding and games).
     
  16. TANWare

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    1920x1200 is primarily why. Other than a 8140w this is my best option to keep a DTR that will last another 1-2 years. The system is good as it is now for at least another year but these parts are only going to get more rare......

    Edit; I also ordered the BT module. 9.99 and since it will be apart may as well........
     
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    I would like to see a close pic of the cpu side of the new board, to see how it compares to mine.
     
  18. TANWare

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    just got it, give me a few........

    Large pic's had to host them myself. They are available at. warning large files............

    Edit; now I have to hold myself off, like a kid in a candy store right now................. :)
     
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    Without disassembling, mine looks the exact same.
     
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    Couldn't wait for the new CPU, well x9100 3.45 GHz 620/1050/1550 oc on the video card at stock 1280x1024 3dmark06 12,541............

    at 1280x800 in 3DMark06 I got 13,366
     
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    That's pretty good ;)

    You should update your signature :p
     
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    I am getting an error trying to run WEI, when I go to Nvidia's site they are showing a different driver version so I'm dl'ng now.

    Edit, WEI error was it wanted time stamp fixed and had to re-certify............

    Edit 2; I got 10,080 at 1920x1200 with 3DMark06. WEI only went from 6.8 to 6.9. From what I can see there is a 10%-20% increase with the board on graphics at the over clock I am using and it runs much cooler overall.
     
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    Hi, i am looking for a new processor (x7800) for my P-7805, does it worth it?
     
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    Probability is yes but it will lower the FSB of the cpu to 800 along with 65nm not over clock as high as it probaaly will run hotter. The x9100 is the proper choice to use on the P78xx series. Again it has not been done so no garenty but there is a good chance it should work.
     
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    Ok what the numbers won't tell you. While the GTX 260m benches way faster it is in high resolution it really shines. As an example I have the demo for Crysis, where I used to just be able with high to get fluid graphics at 1440x900 or better yet lower I can now do 1920x1200. Even 1440x900 in the cut sceens was jerky not it is liquid smooth at full resolution.

    So while it is 10-20% faster in the already high frame rates, Where the 9800m slows to a crawl the 260m can pick up 33%-50% better frame rates. In the end the 260m is a vastly superior video card. If however you do not have the 1920x1200 you will not realize the full advantages over the 9800m.

    Now if you do not over clock the advantage of the 260m is you will get better than over clock 9800m frame rates and still be at stock. In that case you actually will get more out of the card at the lower resolution as you will be able to play where you could not before.

    Hopefully soon I'll get to see what adding a quad will do. As with all C2D's to quads I actually expect some numbers to get lowered as quads have never had it over the dual cores for gaming.

    Edit; if it matters bios shows as LTD 79.07.00 9/30/2009................

    Below Vantage with and then without Physx enabled, FFXIV and Furmark
     

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    3dMark06 at the different resolutions................
     

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    Thanks for the answer :) . Between x7800, x7900 and t9550 Wich one would you choose? and what if i would try to reduce some heat using silver pads on the northbridge and GPU??

    *Sorry for my poor english but my mother tongue is spanish.
     
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    Dirt 2 on the new 260m, again 1920x1200 and 1440x900. I should again note Dirt2 has vSynch enabled on all benchmarks..........
     

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    While the t9550 is not an extreme CPU it is 45nm. Either of the extreme CPU's are 65nm. All of those are 800 MHz so can't be garentied to run. Personally I wouldn't downgrade the FSB so I would not chosesany of those CPU's. You are better off as far as a gamble getting one of the "Exxxx" variants used on the macs, they can be had on the cheap too.............
     
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    I just got the quad core, definately not a gaming CPU.........

    Original x9100 @ 3.45 GHz
    Now at q9200 @ 2.93 Ghz

    1.) Canon DPP batch proccess 136 images from raw to JPG = 893 seconds now 704 Seconds.

    Xilisoft is slower as it seems it uses primarily one core on a single file, but it wiill be faster doing multiple file conversions
     
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    2.93 is pretty good for a quad, what voltage is that? temps?
     
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    q9200 @2.93 Ghz 1.100 vcore. With HW monitor I see about 90c max idle apr 45c. Both 2.40 GHz and 2.66 GHz both run at 1.050 vCore too..................

    Edit, added Xilisoft HD converter running 4 proccesses. This is what I should have done with the x9100 to show where the q9200 shines............

    Some pics........
     

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    Were the temps for the x9100 much better?
    Did you try that quad in the p-78 motherboard? probably didn't work...
     
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    I didn't bother with the quad in the P78 board. I can tell the power handling of these boards is entirely different. With the x9100 I could substantially lower the vCore from the old board. Apparently there is something major for a difference, just not sure what.

    Temps are two different worlds. These CPU's handle things entirely differently. A forewarning with these and the heatsink. The copper bottom does not cover both of the cores. While it handles TDP well enough to do the Q9200 @ 2.66 under prime95 at 2.93 GHz the heat pipe gets overworked and you can slowly watch the cores come close to overheating.

    It does this in stages, the first minute or so it levels off to about 90c, after about 3 minutes (it apparently evaportated all the cooling liquid and cant cool enough vapor for the liquid to get back to the cooling plate) it will slowly start to increase, at one of the cores reaching 97c I shut down Prime95 at about 5 minutes in or so. Normal operations at 2.99 GHz is fine and I rarely see 85c on any one core. The only time I saw 90c on a core is I ran Xilisoft on 3 file proccesses to flood three coes and leave one for extra thread work. This took all cores to 90-95% usage for a 35 minute run.

    The x9100 got only slightly better temps with the new board once the vCores were set properly. Could be placebo effect but it felt sturdier and a bit snappier, this could be the video too though.

    In the end was it worth it, well no! I would have much prefered purchasing a new SB system but I just can't wrap my head around loosing 1920x1200 16:10. Has it made it where I can get another year or two from this system, without a doubt yes! that 10-20% better video card over the OC'd 9800m gives me a nice comfort zone. Realizing how little I need 4 cores makes me realized a SB quad core or 980x is not the need I though it was.

    I guess you could say I fell for the hype. at the moment you really just don't need anything above a dual core except in specialized situations..............
     
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    I enjoyed reading all this, good insight for the future when looking to buy a new system eventually...which it seems that I won't have a need for awhile...
     
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    Glad to be of help and hope you all have enjoyed, if not at least tolerated, my endless banter...................... :)
     
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    Banter depending on its purpose can be very very productive and helpful.
     
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    I just found it, while I have no pics I have RE5 benchmark. before running variable benchmark I could run DX10 1900x1200 n/AA, now it passes as DX10 1920x1200 8xAA overclocked...............
     
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    Sweet! Hmm...yeah definitely going for the LCD upgrade, I like the extra space and you never know when you'll need the extra res.
     
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    I just pushed the q9200 to 3.2 GHz @ 1.1750 vCore, I wouldn't want to run Prime95 for any length of time but I did the picture run for 136 pictures, 658 seconds no core over 91c. Playing dirt2 no core over 82c.................
     
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    That's very impressive :eek:
     
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    I just ran PCMark Vantage trial key at 3.2 GHz and got 10,936. An i7-720 with a 260m came in at 9,900 so I'm pretty happy with that score....................