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    eMachines Laptop: Thermal Stupid

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by sparta.rising, Sep 1, 2008.

  1. sparta.rising

    sparta.rising Notebook Consultant

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    So, 5 years ago my parents bought an eMachines laptop without consulting me. As you can guess, it wasn't a particularly good machine. It has a 2GHz Celeron processor which had one temperature (HOT) and its fan had one speed (TURBINE). I finally got it away from them by replacing with with an R51. I decided to open up this bad mother trucker up and see if I could apply some AS5 to maybe keep it a little cooler. Here's what I found:

    http://i34.tinypic.com/amv0go.jpg

    Basically, there was a silver piece of foil between the processor and heatsink. Now, I know older processors just had thermal-conductive pads, but this just looks like aluminum foil. I'm going to replace it with AS5 anyway, so I peel back the pad and find this:

    http://i38.tinypic.com/255ma7q.jpg

    Thermal grease... under the piece of aluminum foil. Now what is the point of thermal grease if its covered by a pad that won't make perfect contact with the processor? GEEZ! I've heard of similar things on the xbox360 gpu, so, it might not be a mistake, but it just seems stupid.

    I've applied some AS5 and it seems to be staying cooler.
     
  2. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    Sounds like a fun and interesting project. :D
    Thermal stupid indeed, I've never ever heard of any company ever using something like that. :rolleyes:
    Did you know the actual temperature readings beforehand? It would be interesting to compare now. :D
     
  3. qhn

    qhn Notebook User

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    There is nothing stupid about manufacturers using "wrapped" thermal paste/grease. The machines are line-produced, letting the grease running all over is not a good business idea of packaging.

    After 5 years in service and to be revived again with just new thermal paste/grease - i would say that your parents did make a very good choice

    By the way, i use a combined AS5 with a thin copper spacer between the cpu and the heatsink on my still running strong eMachines m6805

    cheers ...
     
  4. sparta.rising

    sparta.rising Notebook Consultant

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    Well, it didn't get much use over the 5 years because they were afraid the jet engine was going to burn down the house or cause the thing to fly away.

    The heatsink already had a copper spacer, the aluminum foil didn't provide much thickness. And I still think its a bad practice. The point of applying thermal paste is so that the contact between the heatsink and the CPU doesn't have any gaps. Air is an insulator not a conductor, so microscopic gaps can prevent efficient heat transfer. I don't see how this can be achieved with a piece of aluminum foil. Many companies mass produce their computers and still manage the apply thermal compound without a wrap, they've been doing it for years.
     
  5. flawed

    flawed Notebook Guru

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    I ripped apart a Acer 5000 last night, was shutting down for thermal reasons. Same setup. Nothing but a sad little piece of foil, no paste at all. I threw some paste on there and heating issue went away, even after a 14 hr stress test. I guess anything to save a buck eh?