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    fx7811, serial 2888

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by hax0rJimDuggan, Oct 26, 2008.

  1. hax0rJimDuggan

    hax0rJimDuggan Notebook Deity

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    I just joined these boards and am noticing talk about two different serials for this model. I noticed I have the 2888 version, so I guess I'm ok.

    Anyway, is this a myth or reality? Are the two serials any different in terms of quality?

    Thanks.
     
  2. royk50

    royk50 times being what they are

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    dont go there, just enjoy your rig. ;)
     
  3. Kamin_Majere

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    yesmaybenoidontknowpossibility
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    Maybe. I've noticed a distinct drop in terms of complaints with the release of the second gen 7811 (the 2888 serials).

    But if that was because it was actually better than the 1st gen or because most people just said the hell with it and stopped either complaining/used the search function to research their problem/didn't get another 7811...i cant say

    Basically i agree with royk50, as he speaks the truth. Just enjoy your rig
     
  4. fiziks

    fiziks Notebook Evangelist

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  5. hax0rJimDuggan

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    Oh no complaints here, believe me. I was just curious if there was any truth to the talk that's all.
     
  6. BMW135i

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    It's just the BIOS ...My 2887 has never had a problem!
     
  7. focusfre4k

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    2887 represent!!!

    The biggest problems you get is idiots that dont cool them properly. so just keep an eye on your temps, check my sig and rep me :D

    **** its not in my sig anymore,

    search for great way to monitor temps
     
  8. BMW135i

    BMW135i Notebook Consultant

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    I use HW monitor and my temps are fine..even the X9100 is yet to break 68c

    The northbridge does get to 98c since i've had the X9100 but undervolting helped ...but it's doesen't use the 11x5 multiplier so i just roll with stock voltage untill i can OC this chip!
     
  9. fiziks

    fiziks Notebook Evangelist

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    Sorry BMW, but I respectfully disagree. The only difference between YOUR laptop (and probably most 2887 laptops) and the 2888s is the BIOS, but there was a difference in parts in a subset of 2887s. See the link in my previous post.

    Also, if you look here: http://support.gateway.com/s/Mobile/2008/GodzillaFX/1015641R/1015641Rcl4.shtml you will see that they've used 8 different battery revisions, 4 power bricks, 4 optical drive revisions, and 2 hard drives (1 Seagate and 1 Hitachi). (that doesn't include all the internal changes, memory, cpu heatsink assemblies - at least two documented, GPU fan assemblies - at least two of those). That doesn't mean that they exerienced problems with some of those components. Sometimes they switch sources to reduce costs, and sometimes they use multiple suppliers because no one supplier was capable of supplying all the parts within the time period they needed them. Other parts may just be engineering upgrades to improve quality (for example a DVD drive with a flimsy tray may have been replaced by a DVD drive with a sturdier one, not because the flimsier one was functionally inadequate but because the flimsier one may have been found to have a higher instance of failure when trying to seat a CD/DVD).
     
  10. royk50

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    now where does it say they found the magic formula in the 2888 ?

    with all the problems people had with the lcd's one would assume they would have used a different one it he magic 2888 laptop, they didn't. so here it is for assuming.

    from your list it is possible to come to any conclusion one likes, how do we know all 2888 have same power brick same batteries same optic drive same hdd ?

    you might be right, but "might" does not cut it in my book.

    now, this is not personal, i don't know you and i believe you are posting here cause you want to help other readers just as the rest of us. thanks for the interesting info. (the jakamo clause ;) )


    edit*************
    btw if you look at he parts used for the 6860 (which had almost no problems) you will see a very similar list (barring the dvd drive) many parts shared with the 7811 so nothing special about the 7811 diverse component list.
     
  11. Jakamo5

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    some things that are reported are true, others are false, everyone is entitled to believe what they want. someone even reported at one point that the 2888's switched the left ctrl back with the function key (which isn't true, at least not on mine). the bottom line is if your laptop has no problems, then who cares anymore. if you're laptop does have problems and you're going to exchange it for a new 7811, that's when you should be looking into this
     
  12. metalangel

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    Mine fx7811 has arrived to Brazil, and I`am curious, where can i find the serial number? If it help the bios is 9c.05.00
    thx
     
  13. hthighway

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    The serial number is on the bottom of the laptop as well as on the box it came in.
     
  14. Jakamo5

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    If that is the bios then you have a 2887 serial. You can confirm this by checking the bottom of the laptop and looking at the serial which will begin P2887 ### #### or P2888 ### ####. Let us know what it turns out to be just for statistical purposes.
     
  15. fiziks

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    I think I am beginning to understand your reasoning, so let me address it this way

    I am not saying they found a magic bullet. Anecdotal evidence suggests that 2888s seem to be pretty solid. But it is also possible that there just aren't enough of them out there for the defects to be statistically significant, hence I haven't seen anyone report an overheating problem on a 2888 (not that someone hasn't experienced it).

    How do you know they didn't? Granted LCD panels are manufactured at only a handful of sites, but unless we ask people to pry off their LCD bezels to look at the mfg code we won't know. The list I referenced says nothing about memory, yet the memory sticks in my 7811 comes from two different manufacturers (I've seen that in Lenovo laptops as well).

    We don't know. I believe I offered three explanations of why there may be different parts, only one of which had to do with defective parts.

    I might be wrong, too. I've simply offered some possibiliies. But if you admit that I might be right, then as much as you have objected to my comments, you must equally object to the blanket "It's just the BIOS, upgrade and you'll be fine" statements that I have responded to.

    No offense taken. You've adequately demonstrated that I needed to do a better job of both clariying and qualifying my position. Hopefully I have done so to your satisfaction. I've rather enjoyed this.

    It's quite common in the industry to build a system with parts sourced from multiple vendors for reasons other than defective parts. I've stated that a couple times now. I have no experience with the 6860, so I can't comment. However, it is interesting that you note the DVD drive as an exception.
     
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    You`re right it`s the 2887, but so far so good
     
  17. fiziks

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    If it's working, then don't worry about it.
     
  18. royk50

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    good i am happy we're still friends ;)
    and i certainly agree with you about the bios fix all statement.

    as to the dvd drive there was a move from pata to sata in the 7811, so this explain why they haven't reused it (not why they used gazillion different drives in the 7811).

    so we can disagree on some, agree on others and not flame, whhat kind of forum is this ?
     
  19. fiziks

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    I apologize if you feel I flamed you or if others feel I have flamed you, that was not my intent. I certainly did not interpret your comments as flames. I quite enjoyed the conversation.
     
  20. royk50

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    so did i, sorry if my poor command of English has failed me.