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    gateway mt6456 cpu upgrade?

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by jes01965, Mar 9, 2014.

  1. jes01965

    jes01965 Newbie

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    Hello,

    i have a mt6456 how ever i tryed upgrading the cpu form a tl-52 to a tl-60.
    only problem im having is that when i try to start my laptop after the swap it crashes on windows.
    even on the boot sometimes, so i am woundering if it wont take a tl-60 or do i have to upgrade the bios.
    if someone can tell me or give me a list of supported cpu for this laptop that would be nice.

    thank you.
     
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    Sudos Notebook Enthusiast

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    the TL-60 should be fine. did you upgrade to a 90nm or 65nm TL-60?
    The available BIOS for your system is 84.06... Someone on mydigitallife says theirs has a versoin of 84.05 installed, so this should be the latest:
    8406.exe from Gateway eSupport FTP.

    You can try to do a BIOS update to your system using phlash16 under a bootable FreeDOS flash drive, and that might help.
    First thing you should do if you've just installed a new CPU though, is go into the BIOS and clear the CMOS or "reset to defaults" just to be on the safe side.

    if you can't get it to boot into Windows after that, drop the old CPU in, do the BIOS update, and then try again. Hope this helps.
     
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    jes01965 Newbie

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    thank you for the replay i have been trying to update the bios even though a phlash16 how ever i havent had any lucking doing so.
    i did try just droping the new cpu in and clearing the cmos but that didnt help it will boot into windows but will blue screen once it loads the desktop if im lucky somtimes it wont even get to the desktop befor it blue screens.
     
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    it sounds more to me like you're having an issue with windows not liking the chip. Can you boot and get to the desktop in Safe Mode via mashing on the F8 key at boot? if you can, go into the device manager (Start>run>devmgmt.msc or Windows Key+R devmgmt.msc or just go through Computer Properties assuming Windows 7) and tell it to search for new hardware. it should find the CPU and install the right driver for it. after that's accomplished, reboot the system.

    if it still bluescreens from there, see if it still continues on a fresh install of windows on another hard drive if you have any spares. but the safe mode thing isn't too farfetched, I've seen it happen before.

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    sadly cant even get it to do an install for windows 7 havent tryed XP or 8 would rather stick with 7, but a windows install bluescreens as well ( x86 & x64 )
    i tryed the x86 installer just to see if i could get anywere with that but no luck with that eather.
    and for safe mode as soon as it starts to load it blue screens ( i was hoping i would beable to read the system logs if i loaded safe mode)
    i guess really the next step i have is to just load linux and see if i can get the install to work or not.
    how ever i would like windows on there to
     
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    if Linux (any flavor of Ubuntu/Mint will suffice for testing) fails or kernel panics, it could just be a bad chip.
    Here's links to
    AMD Turion 64 X2 TL 60 2 0 GHz CPU Mobile Processor Socket S1G1 TMDTL60HAX5DC 882780318410 | eBay 65nm TL-60, Model No. TMDTL60HAX5DC
    This one is core revision G1, 65nm, and SHOULD be completely the same to the 90nm TL-60 save for the die shink, which helps with keeping heat down.

    AMD Turion 64 X2 TMDTL60HAX5CT TL 60 2GHz Socket S1 S1G1 Tested 8000000127419 | eBay 90nm TL-60, Model No. TMDTL60HAX5CT
    This is the 90nm one. As far as I know the two listed here should work, and I'd recommend the 65nm one. there shouldn't be any microcode differences, it's just a different core stepping and die shrink. I could be wrong though, so take my word with a grain of salt-- it's been a while since I've messed with Turions of any kind after my Acer 5050's battery died and I parted it out to move on to bigger and better things.

    That said, I did some digging and found this tidbit of information on the AMD Forums in this thread:

    "Have you had a chance to try or any luck with an older BIOS version? For what it's worth, I jumped/reset my CMOS when going from the Athlon to the Turion. To get my memory clock synched or multiplying correctly, I left out a RAM card (starting the computer w/only 2G) during initial cpu driver loading and reinstalled the other 2G card after re-start. "

    So for what it's worth, it might also be worth trying to boot the system with one memory stick out and then the other one, to test. Remember that the memory controller is on the CPU for 64-bit AMD CPUs onward, so if this fails, you can have such issues. I'd also like to give the advice to try swapping the memory sticks around in their slots, and just see what happens. if that doesn't help any, and Linux fails to work, try a different CPU. first ebay link is the more efficient of the two, and the second is the one that was originally meant to run in laptops like your mt6456. but the first, again, will run cooler and have little thermal issues.

    Just remember if you try Linux, you have to use a RECENT VERSION of whatever distro you try. so if you're going to use a Live DVD, the latest Ubuntu or Fedora version will benefit you. the XPress 1150 onboard your laptop didn't have hardware acceleration on the GPU in Linux again until Fedora 19 because of something with a libmesa version not being 9.something if memory serves. so it has to be a recent version and not an LTS or legacy release. the XPress 1150 onboard my Acer 5050 was the same way.

    Good luck.
     
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    well i have a problem with the fact its a bad chip since its working fine in my acer. i could try and remove one of the mem cards though havent thought of that, how ever being that im mainly think it could be just the OS. that is why i want to try linux and if i dont have any luck with that i could just have a bad hdd or a bad sector in the drive. being a sector linux should be able to boot a live cd if so i can then scan the hdd. thanks for the info i give every thing a try and ill let you know.