im starting to hate vista 64 bit

well i just got my 6860 this morning and even though i love every part of it (great specs for great price!) the thing that pisses me off is some programs/software that im trying to D/L and install wont work on the system (AVG,NHC, etc etc).

whats the difference between the 64 and 32 bit vista OS anyways? other than the fact that 64 bit runs applications a bit faster and utilizes 4 gb of RAM. does the 32 bit use all of the 4gb of ram as well?

 

32bit will use between 3 and 3.5gb of the 4gb of ram

 

AVG works fine on 64bit.

NHC isnt supported for Vista.

Try again.

 

hrrrr......now im getting this weird "abcdf.exe.part" files whenever i download with firefox.WTF?

 

also, just started monitoring temps.im getting 52 C with GPU and 63 C and 67 C on CPU.isnt that a tad high for temps just on stand by?

 

I thing you have a virus mate

try and format your PC and see what will happened

 

You might have a hardware issue. Those temps are quite high for idle. I would try a driver update on teh GPU first. But my core temps (with stock processor) at idle ate 27+ degrees lower than yours. Have you upgraded the CPU?

I'm watching AVG scan my comp right now and i've been running it on my 6860 with x64 for about 2 months now.

 

hrrrrr.....i get different temps with different programs. thos initial temp were taken using speedfan...i just now installed CPUID and i hover around 40 idle on CPU and 53 idle on GPU...confusing...i have stock CPU btw


i dont think its a virus issue since i just reformatted this 30 min ago.

 

speedfun is notorious for wrong readings.
cpuid hwmonitor seems reliable, same readings as Everest and TAT.
your gpu idle is still hot but not catastrophic, mine idles 40-43.

 

yeah i figured speedfan was a fluke....i was thnking of swapping out the cpu with a T9300.but it feels like d stock is enuf 4 what i need.

 

If you want, put your recovery disk in and you can reformat with Vista 32.

 

This is why Microsoft advises only advanced users install a x64 Vista. For your purposes and 99.9% of the consumer population, there is no noticeable performance improvement from x86 to x64 Vista. If anything, I would suggest faster hardware.

 

thing is i didnt wanna waste the extra .5 - 1gb of RAM that was to be used with the 64 bit OS. how much RAM would you be really wasting of i was to change to 32 bit and would it be worth it?

 

None. Well maybe Photoshop or if you must keep several applications open at once. I have no problems with 3 gig.

Since 99% of programs are 32/16 bit, I'll hang with Vista 32 until drivers and applications mature a bit more. Heck, I'm happy if my older programs even run under Vista.

 

Vista 32 will only be able to use about 3.2-3.3 gigs of ram. SP1 will see all of the 4gigs but will be unable to use them. I have had no problems with any programs running under vista 64 so far. Unless you are running some really old stuff there is no need for going back to Vista 32. Besides Vista 64 has a x86/Vista 32 compatiblity mode so it should run most programs that Vista 32 or XP can with some exceptions of course.

 

it's the "future!" and you're able to utilize 4gb+ of RAM, and also run 64bit applications, yay! i've also read it's faster under certain circumstances.

i think *.part files are placed on your computer when you begin downloading something with firefox. i'm pretty sure they delete themselves if you cancel a download though.

the GPU temp seems fine; the CPU seems a little high for an idle temperature, but it's not terrible. invest in a laptop cooler.

why would he have a virus?

so stick with a 64bit OS. why change to 32bit? almost everything you will need is compatible with vista x64. and if a specific program you use is not compatible, i'm sure you can find a replacement for it that does the same exact thing that is compatible.

 

alright...ill give vista 64 another week or so...i thinking im just having a "OS shock" sort of thing since its my first time to use vista and getting use to it maybe takes time.thanks for your inputs guys.

 

hummm, your probably not even using 2 gigs of ram, let alone trying to use 4 gigs.
1: click task manager the click performance.
2: open every single program you have installed on your computer and i bet you still dont use over 2 gigs. you might even get as high as 2.3 gig if your opening all adobe products and multiple games. which you wont be doing in real life operations.

this is just to say...your wasting about 1.5 gigs or more on the norm. sorry.

and the abcdef part stuff should be related to your download. once the download is finished it should convert to the real file. and the .part file should disappear.

edit:the 6860 also came with the 32/64 bit os install dvd. they already knew people where going to have problems with 64 bit. and it's completely free to reinstall with this dvd, but would recommend you use the recovery method to create a driver/software dvd or just copy the complete apps folder off the recovery partition. then wipe the 64 bit part and reinstall 32 bit.

 

wouldnt really say its a waste since that 1.5 gig would be available to use if need be. rather than not going to be able to access it due to 32 bit limitations.

but i get your point, if my usual memory access is enough for just the 3-3.5 gb then might as well switch to 32 bit and stop whining.LOL.thanks

btw, tried that "digital vibrance" tip of yours and helped a lot on putting "more" colors on the screen and reducing eyestrain! thanks!

 

lol

nah, just giving you a few other things to look at. you want to be as comfortable and as compatible as possible. just our luck, right when we need it most to do something, the whole thing errors out because it wasn't compatible. been there before..lol

and if they opened up the bios, you could actually use more memory than 3072 in the 32 bit os.

 

i think people running accounting software would beg to differ.

 

cant remember but i think i gave you a rep for that tip.thanks again.LOL.cant thank u enough i guess.HAHA

 

no problem.

 

That's funny, I don't think I've ever had a problem with any programs yet. Did you make a recovery CD and reformat first thing when you go the laptop? That's what myself, and everyone I know, recommends. As far as firefox goes, all I've ever done (32/64 bit regardless) is go to the download page, download, and install. Like someone previously stated, it sounds like something is wrong with your computer. Re-format or even take it back and exchange it for a new one, then make the recovery disk on that and reformat. Mine works like a charm after all that.

 

it's just a place holder file....

 

i did make a recovery before i reformatted the OS. only problem im having is some apps cant run on the os. games i play run in window mode though hitting alt+enter fixes that but still bugs me everytime i open a game.

 

and about the "*.exe.part" file. i figured out it was a pre-download file of firefox that dissapears right after ur done downloading as someone stated earlier.

 

there is a setting for that, but i dont remember where it is.

 

i highly doubt he's using accouting software, mr. technicality.

yes, that was me

 

so stick with a 64bit OS. why change to 32bit? almost everything you will need is compatible with vista x64. and if a specific program you use is not compatible, i'm sure you can find a replacement for it that does the same exact thing that is compatible.


what part of that you missed?
edit: and i explained the .part before you.

 

Any time you could have saved having the extra .5 GB of memory available because you are running a x64 OS is lost due to downtime due to application compatibility.

If you want straight up productivity gains, stick with your x86 Vista. If you want to tinker, overcome a challenge, and feel like a geek, stick with your x64 Vista.

They are both excellent OSes. It just sounds like app com is a bigger priority than x64 computing in your life.

 

hey! that's me.

but my main os is 32 bit vista and xp pro for network trouble shooting of client networks

 

confusing...what is x86 and x64 vista again?

 

x86 = 32 bit vista & x64 = 64 bit vista

 

Sorry about that. x86 = 32 bit

x64 = 64 bit

This is like the XP vs Vista debate. It just comes down to if you want to learn a new OS. Sometimes sticking with the status quo is worth not having to climb that learning curve.