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    no need to look for 1920x1200 screen anymore.. p-7805u

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by shin777, Jan 27, 2009.

  1. shin777

    shin777 Notebook Consultant

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    newegg just dropped price on p-7801u which is basically same as p-7805u with 1920x1200 screen. now they are selling it for $1199 + free shipping.
    with best buy sale is gone and most 7805u out there now are 1440x900
    , get it at newegg if you want this computer with high resolution.
    my total came out $1218 after tax when i bought p-7805u from best buy so
    newegg has it for cheaper.. and 7801u is supposed to be superior model, right? =)
     
  2. Misconduct

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    im curious does anyone really need the 1900x1200 screen? or are my eyes really just that old I can't see anything in that resolution lol.

    I have 1900x1200 I rarely go above 1280x1024
     
  3. tntsniper

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    They are identical aren't they? at least from what I've been looking up as long as you have a 7805 w/ a 1920 screen.. I could be wrong
     
  4. shin777

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    haha.. yeah.. 1920x1200 on 17 inch is a waste and i set mine at 1440x900 as well.. but it always feel better to get better one if one has to pay for the same price. =)
    oh.. and while 9800m gts is very powerful gpu for laptop, it can't handle 1920x1200 gamplay well anyway so it's only for bragging right.. :)
    but i do need at leat 1680x1050 since my cad program requires 1280x1024 minimum resolution and i get error since 900 < 1024.. =(
     
  5. Mormegil83

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    I don't know about ur machine but mine still maxes nearly all games out in 1920X1200 you musta got a bumb unit (and it did that before the t9600)
     
  6. Misconduct

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    I understand shin, i always wondered why some only bought laptops based on larger screen resolution, I doubt I could play any games in 1900x1200 unless they were scrabble =0)
     
  7. Misconduct

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    Nah don't get me wrong the 7811 has plenty of power to play games at 1900x1200 but I average 40fps less then I would play on 1280x1024.

    All depends game too, I just don't see someone attempting GTA IV on 1900x1200 full graphics.
     
  8. Mormegil83

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    Yeah if you want 40+ FPS you may have to drop for some espesially GTA IV but will droping the res in that game make a difference anyway??? also i said nearly
     
  9. dsc888

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    One of the main reasons I got my 7805 was the fact that it has the 1920x1200 screen that matches my resolution on my Dell 2408 desktop monitor. I wanted the absolute maximum resolution to watch Bluray discs on, once my drive arrives and most importantly for photo editing.

    The added resolution also allows me to keep my bookmarks on Firefox as well as my sidebar on the left so I can keep tabs on the weather, traffic, etc. So for some of us, it's a real deal breaker.

     
  10. prius

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    Although the sale is certainly gone (at least for now), are we certain about 'most 7805u being 1440'? From what I've been able to glean from the batch thread, there is no absolutely clear pattern and even some of the higher numbers have been reported as having 1920 displays.
     
  11. DigiDoc

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    I use it all the time, and I bought it specifically because of the hires screen!

    I use my system in a photography studio as part of a wireless tethering system. The high res screen is a godsend (and at times a pain, but I'll get to that in a sec).

    As I shoot, RAW files are sent wirelessly to the laptop and are displayed on the screen. Having that high of a resolution means I can see a lot more of the image on screen at once which comes in handy when I'm editing. In preview mode though it helps me pick out any dust specs on my camera's sensor easily.

    The downside to the highres screen? When I convert the images to JPG and resize them for web use for a model, they pictures look tiny on my screen. I have to keep reminding them that it's going to look A LOT bigger on their screens when they load them on their computers. lol!

    Other than that, I love my system's high res screen! I occasionally use it to game too. Left4Dead looks amazing on it! :D

     
  12. JohnWhoTwo

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    Thanks for that info, shin777.

    Certainly worth passing on to those who want to be sure they get the WUXGA screen.
     
  13. PopRoxMimo3

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    Aren't the Cards different 512gb vs 1gb???

    opps thought of 7811fx
     
  14. SemiGamer

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    Lol wow, I haven't found a game I can't run at 1920x1200 resolution....
    With the new GTAIV patch, I'm running it in 1920x1200 with all the things set to High and distances set to 55 (Both of them). Car density set to 60 and Shadow density set to 10, Vsync off. Runs beautiful.
    So far the games I'm playing are:
    CoD4 (Completely maxed, res and all)
    Crysis (Everything on high, runs at 1920x1200 but I prefer to set it to 1680x1050)
    Left 4 Dead (Completely maxed, res and all)
    G.R.I.D (Completely maxed, res and all)
    Mirrors Edge (Completely maxed, res and all)
    GTAIV (Settings above)
    Assassin's Creed (Completely maxed, res and all)
    Prince Of Persia (Completely maxed, res and all)
    Need For Speed Undercover (Completely maxed, res and all)
    Devil May Cry 4 (Completely maxed, res and all)

    Also I keep my desktop and browsing set to 1920x1200 resolution and have no problems reading or anything..
     
  15. mEatWad

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    its always better to have a little more, then having a little less. i had 1920x1200 rez. on my dell and i cudn/t do without it now. the text is small, but i have the dpi set at 120%. i ctrl + to make things larger in my browser. and i can run a lot of my games at full rez. including COD 4 & 5.
    1680x1050 wud have been perfectly acceptable too for me.
     
  16. shin777

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    it runs the game at 1920x1200 but not upto my liking level.
    i play crysis warhead at 1440x900, everything medium(mainstream) setting.
    i get about 40-50 fps that way. tried very high setting and it was pretty unplayable anything above 960x600 resolution.
    left 4 dead, everything max runs around 30-40 fps which is playable but i want steady 50+ fps so i had to set resolution down.

    but i don't deny this is one bad-*** laptop as my previous one couldn't even get 20fps on left 4 dead lowest setting. =)
    still no laptop beats my i7 920 + gtx 295... =p
     
  17. Misconduct

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    Well I guess im so used to "toning" down my graphics, ever since Quake 2 instead of having max graphics I go medium graphics just because in days like counterstrike, every FPS mattered. Even when played WoW before first expansion before I quit, I was running molten core with 40 and couldn't even have my graphics that high. Granted my whole life I spent buying 2nd hand computer parts, everyone knows for example a bran new vid card is around $250, the 2nd best around $180, decent to get you going $125 or so. Only when I left the marines I decided to go all out, went and got a Cyberpowered desktop with duel 7900GTX cards which I had every game even GTA IV on full graphics without even a loss in FPS.

    I guess I apply my old antics of toning down graphics when honestly the 7811 probably doesn't need it =)

    I appreciate everyones insight especially SemiGamer, didn't realize the 7811 was so powerful game wise.
     
  18. shin777

    shin777 Notebook Consultant

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    fair enough but does anyone know exact difference between 7801u and 7805u besides the name? all the specs and even outside appearance look identical.
    i am so thinking about taking my 7805u back and get 7801u while i can still do it. i am so tempted right now.. if i can get superior model for $20 less, why not? =)
     
  19. JohnWhoTwo

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    Based on the specs, the difference is only the screen, as far as I can tell.
     
  20. Szer

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    shin... you will get hit with a 15% restocking fee...
     
  21. shin777

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    no, i can just return it as half of my screen has white blotch on it(mura effect that can only be seen from left angle when screen is black).
    this white blotch is so bad, i can just say it's defected and just tell them i don't feel comfortable getting same one again. i am pretty sure i can get away with 15% restocking fee with that. :D
    but still.. it's a lot of work cuz i have to restore the system to factory default b4 i take it back to store and then have to spend another 10 hours set things up if i decided to return 7805u and get 7801u. :mad:
     
  22. Tybalt39

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    If I recall correctly, when the 7801 first hit Newegg it had a hard-drive in the 200-250GB range rather than the 320 now advertised.
    ***Oops!***Nevermind***


    Now these two laptops are virtually identical but for the screen (advertised resolution).

    $50 more for higher resolution through the Egg, local sale/service through Best Buy. Make your choice: either is good!
     
  23. Mormegil83

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    7801 always had the 320gb the 7811 has 200gb
     
  24. SemiGamer

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    Its not superior, if you have the 1920x1200 res on your P7805u right now. there will be no difference.
    So you'd be saving $20 and putting in 10hours work.. :p

    Your welcome, By the way i have the P-7805u not the 7811, same thing basically though :p Also if I recall correctly, the 9800M GTS is more powerful than the 7900GTX.. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  25. Alitronic

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    I tried playing scrabble on the display model at best buy.... Horrible experience. Although my wife didn't have a problem playing it....
     
  26. aaronjb

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    Yes, Crysis and GTAIV may run with the settings you've listed, but certainly not at framerates approaching even 30FPS.
     
  27. shin777

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    indeed it runs but crysis high setting runs so choppy. i have to lower my resolution to 960x600 to get 30+ fps on high..
    anyway, darn.. this white blotch(backlight leakage or mura effect however you want to call it) is still there and bothering the crap out of me.
    i never knew lcd panel had this kind of problem. even my $399 acer laptop didn't have this problem. =(
    according to user reviews on newegg.com p-7801u has exact same problem and it went away in time. i will give one more week but if it doesn't disappear by then, i am taking my notebook back to bestbuy. of course, since i use this notebook at work, it will be on like 10 hours a day so that should give enough break in time for panel(i used like 30 hours so far since i got it).
    at least it doesn't have any dead or stuck pixels.. sigh..
     
  28. Misconduct

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    Choppy settings is something I can't stand, why I bother playing at 1280, now I did take Semi's advice and played some of my games at 1900x1200 and yes it gets choppy!.

    One thing I hated in games is any video choppiness. However Company of Heroes was quite nice at 1600x1200, 1900 was unplayable.
     
  29. azianai

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    yeah semi, how you getting your games to run all over 50 FPS on 1920 X 1200.
    Hell even in WoW i can't run everything on high at 1920 X 1200, or it'll drop under 30 FPS
     
  30. Mormegil83

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    Update video drivers...
     
  31. hedgehog40

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    Price now $1299 :mad:
     
  32. JohnWhoTwo

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    Whoa!

    That didn't last long!

    :(
     
  33. Misconduct

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    im selling a few 7811fx's for $900, only have 1 one on ebay its at $1150 right now
     
  34. JohnWhoTwo

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    Yikes!

    Now, at NewEgg, the P-7801u is $1599! (with free shipping)

    You are still limited to 5. :)

    Link h e r e.
     
  35. shin777

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    darn.. that was quick price change.. are they making fun of us customers? :mad:
     
  36. JohnWhoTwo

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    Now, jr.com is selling the "P801u" for $1199 as a Gateway LX.W430X.001 P801U 17" Notebook PC.

    Is this a misprint and they really mean a "P7801u"?

    Anyway, price is better than $1599, that's for sure.
     
  37. prius

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    Yes, LX.W430X.001 is, I believe, the part number for the 7801u. Hard to figure why there's so much volatility in the pricing.
     
  38. JohnWhoTwo

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    I called JR last night and the "salesperson" insisted that the P801U number is correct.

    Maybe he will pass on my question to someone who will look at the box and verify this. He was unable to do it.

    Dunno.
     
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    Personally I would pay a bit MORE to get the lower resolution screen, so to me this is great news that some of the 7805s have switched back to a 1440xwhatever screen. I disliked that the 7811 went to a higher resolution (and apparently also lower quality) screen.

    Hopefully they fixed the stability issues with the 7811 also!

    1920x1280 is insane on a 17" screen IMO. 24" would be the minimum I'd stand for something that high resolution. The only thing that would really benefit for me would be Blu Ray, but that looks plenty great at 1280x720 or whatever.

    It's a lot more powerful, yeah. The 7900 series GPUs are basically similar to the 8600/(notebook) 9600 series overall. Better in some ways, worse in others. The Playstation 3 basically has a 7900GT, so this laptop actually has roughly a twice as powerful GPU as that even :)
     
  40. tizzao

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    Has anyone ordered from that JR website yet? I'm seriously considering it since I can't get a 1920x1200 FX in my area anymore.
     
  41. Tybalt39

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    I haven't ordered from their website, but J&R has been around for decades! I purchased electronic parts from them over 30 years ago. No worries about a "fly-by-night" company there.
     
  42. tizzao

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    That's good to hear. I've been considering just grabbing this. If i need something more portable I'll just buy a used 13" macbook or something and throw windows on it.
     
  43. JohnWhoTwo

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    I concur.

    I've bought a number of things from J&R - an LCD screen, Panasonic Surround Sound Home Theater, Casio Digital camera - and have not had any problem. I do, and have, recommended them.
     
  44. JohnWhoTwo

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    Just got off the phone with Gateway Tech -

    the unit at jr.com is a P7801u. J&R has a misprint.

    My 5u Serial Number starts with: LXW430X which it the GTW Mfr. Part Number (the remainder is the Notebook specific information) and is shown at J&R for their model as "LX.W430X.001". It looks like the first 7 digits reference the 78 series and the last ".001" in this case makes it a 1u.

    At least, that's what I got from the phone call.

    In any case, I feel very confident that the J&R "P801U" is a FX P-7801u.

    Just sharing.
     
  45. jeremyp111

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    Did you happen to see the Gateway P-7808u on the jr.com website? It's got a Quad Core processor! I just posted a thread about it with a link....
     
  46. JohnWhoTwo

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    Yep.

    Posted a reply already, too.

    Nice find.
     
  47. tizzao

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    I have a question for you guys again. I used to have a dell 9300 (17" 1920x1200) and got really used to it. I recently sold it to upgrade and I'm trying to decide whether to buy the 7801, something small for a change, or wait until summer when I absolutely have to have a new laptop.

    It seems like it just really hard to beat the price for these specs even if something new comes out in summer.

    Any advice would be helpful. Also, do you guys think there will be a GPU refresh in these things by summer too?
     
  48. Tybalt39

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    There will ALWAYS be something "better" out within a few weeks of your purchase.

    I picked up my 6860 in July '08 and the 7811 showed up in just a couple of months. Now the 7801/5 is out. Not to mention the 7808....
    Wonder how the 6831 buyers feel?

    My point is, make the best buy you can when you need to and enjoy! If you don't "need" a new lappy right now, who knows what will be available when you're ready. Something good will be around and if not, there's always the refurbs of the above models on Tiger Direct.
     
  49. tizzao

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    I suppose so. I'm mostly just having a hard time because I know I can make do with just a desktop for now. I just miss having my laptop at hand. That's what makes me want to buy now rather than summer.
     
  50. Szer

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    if you have a desktop... a 17" laptop is not really a portable option. I think 15" will be the greatest middle point for gaming power and portability
     
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