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    using t9600 on p-7805u for all day long safe?

    Discussion in 'Gateway and eMachines' started by shin777, Feb 6, 2009.

  1. shin777

    shin777 Notebook Consultant

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    p8400 is only 25watts.. but t9600 is 35watts.. i usually leave my laptop on
    for 10 hours+ a day at work. will it be safe?
    p9600 is nice but price difference with t9600 was mere $15 and t9600 is 2.8ghz while p9600 is 2.66ghz.. considering i can't overclock cpu with p-7805u,
    i want all the speed i can get if price difference is only that much.
    is anyone using t9600 on p-7805u? if so what's idle and max temperature
    with it?
     
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    Mormegil83 I Love Lamp.

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    I leave mine on 24-7 temps are fine
     
  3. shin777

    shin777 Notebook Consultant

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    just wondering.. is 7805u and 7811 is basically same besides gpu memory and hdd size, right? do you push it to 100% cpu usase often?
    i am thinking about getting QS(ES) version and i will be pushing 100% for hours a day.
     
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    I run a x9000 24 hours a day and its a 44watt chip. Just undervolt the thing and enjoy your speed.

    The FX's dont have an "amazing" cooling system, but they have a good one that can easily handle what your putting to it. If you are really worried then get a cooler and you'll be perfectly happy (just dont forget to undervolt)
     
  5. shin777

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    you can undervolt in bio, right?
     
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    follow this guide
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=235824
    exactly and you wont have a problem

    Best way to shave temps off a cpu... well EVER. I shaved 7-9 degrees idle and 15-19 degrees stressed, off the operating temps of my x9000. Adding a good application of Artic Silver Ceremique and i was able to gain quite a bit off my temps. Plus when i'm doing CPU intensive things i can always plug in my custom cooler for even better cooling :)
     
  7. shin777

    shin777 Notebook Consultant

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    are you guys using OEM/retail version or QS(ES) version?
    obviously, i am planning to get one from ebay(extremeprocessor guy)
    and just worrying it can take full push for long time. :confused:
     
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    I use a QS x9000.

    ES/QS are fine. Remember they are the chips meant to be punished by the other companies to make sure they dont slag out. It wouldnt make sense for intel to send these out defective... you wouldnt get good results back ;)
     
  9. shin777

    shin777 Notebook Consultant

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    i c.. so even at 10w undervolted, t9600 can still push 2.8ghz for hours, right?
    darn.. i hate spending more money but p8400 is just too darn slow compared to my i7 920 on desktop.
     
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    Undervolting is only going to change the volts, not the watts. The trick is to find the voltage thats low enough to change you temps but is still stable for your CPU to run at max capability.

    Trial and error (well trial and othros) will help you find that voltage. Great thing is the worst thing that happens if you go to low is a blue screen. So you reboot and knock the voltage up a step ot two and resume testing. After you fins all your multipliers optimial voltage you can pretty much always run it at that and will enjoy nice cooler temps the whole time.

    Its pretty much a win win situation all around
     
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    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    you didn't go there........ Watts = Volts x Amps...........
     
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    yes i know but its easier for most people unfamiliar with this to ignore that. When you undervolt you're changing fractions of a volt so the wattage difference is going to be negligable (hence i said what i said, due to his 10 watt comment)

    Its just easier to explain the whole thing ignoring that actually electrical math that goes along with it ;)
     
  13. shin777

    shin777 Notebook Consultant

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    well.. i just bought it. so i should be able to get it sometime by next week.
    so it's basically like overclocking where i find lowest volt to make things work stable on certain speed, right? so in this case, lowest voltage for maintain 2.8ghz without error. what if i don't touch it? would it hurt my laptop if i just replace cpu and use it as is?
     
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    If you dont do anything except swap the CPU out (remember thermal paste) then it will be fine, it will jsut run a bit hotter than you are used to with the stock CPU (though it shouldnt be that huge of a difference i wouldnt think)
     
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    indeed.. as far as p8400 goes, it never went over 54c without cooler.
    extra 5-6c isn't all that bad i guess.. i am pretty sure anything under 70c is
    fine for cpu(like 65c under 100% load).
     
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    Where do ou get the Intel t9600 or whatever is the latest chip that can work in the 7801 system.
     
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    Where did you buy your QS x9000 and what all did you modify to run it? Did you overclock it etc?
     
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    i am still waiting for a shipment but now i am tempted to get x9100.
    is x9100 noticably faster than t9600?
    jeese.. but i should have really waited one more day b4 buying t9600.
    price of this seller is messed up. i bought it for $302(EUR $228) but
    i see another exact same one for $268 the day after i placed order.
    posting same item cheaper the day after i buy mine. i want to cry.
    maybe i will just resell it as soon as i get it and get better one since t9800
    is only $330. :(
     
  19. Kamin_Majere

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    I got mine from a guy in OZ off of eBay. I have it OCed to 3.0gHz and i didnt have to modify anything it was a plug and play upgrade

    Note that i have a 6860 though, i simply made the comment due to the ES debate that was going on (stating that ES chips are fine)

    While the x9000 will work in the 78xx series of gateway its isnt adviseable to use it due to the no OC abilities and the fact that you are limiting your FSB to 800mHz

    I wouldnt waste the money on an x9100. You cant OC it so its just plain useless. The t9800 runs 13mHz slower and you get a lower TDP and cheaper purchase price. All in all the t9800 is pretty much king of the hill for the 78xx series
     
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    yeah.. either way, i guess i lost $40 here. :mad:
    i am pretty sure t9600 to t9800 has very little difference since speed difference is only .13mhz and rest of the specs are identical.
    oh, well.. only if i waited out till monday to place order, i could have
    saved $40 and could've gotten nano mouse with that money. :D

    btw, Kamin_Majere, how did you overclock your extreme processor?
    do you have different version of gateway laptop or something?
     
  21. Diablo

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    with the 6831's and 6860's, if you upgraded to an X7800/X7900/X9000 processor, it unlocked the option to overclock the cpu up to 3.0ghz.

    with the later model laptops 7811/7801/7805 the only compatible extreme processor was the X9100, though if you had it installed, you couldnt overclock past its default speed as its default speed is higher than 3.0ghz.