Interesting that the drivers all show as beta.
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Apparently BIOS supports both RAID 0 and RAID 1 for mSATA.
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I am wondering if this will be released by the end of the month. I need to order a new laptop for work by 9/25, I think my max budget is around $1400, looking for something that can handle gaming, but doesn't need to be awesome at it, trying for a 14" screen and around 4 lbs. Any suggestions in case this isn't available for preorder by the time I need to have them order it?
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You could try the W230ST. Or if that's too heavy, the W740SU would probably work too
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How about the acer v7 with gt 750m?
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I looked at the v7 very briefly, unfortunately it's got ulv processor and lame ssd options etc, otherwise a great looking machine.
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I think there are really four competitors in this range/class. These are in order of thickness: Clevo w230st (bulky, only 13.3, gets hot), msi ge40 (build quality lacking, flashy, gets hot, not 1080p), gigabyte p34g (horrible release, unknown performance, etc), razer blade (not 1080p, pricey, gets hot during gaming too). Aside from those you probably won't find anything more portable. Possibly the samsung ativ book 8. It does come with an amd 8870m which performs similar to the nvidia 670m, but I don't think the version with that card is coming to the US.
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worse CPU and GPU. I agree. But there is a mSata and Sata connector. how is lame SSD options?
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It is really difficult to find a gaming ultrabook that does not get hot. i doubt the p34g will not get hot either, specially with that GPU. Therefore, if the p34g can keep in the range from 1400 to 1600, is still the best option since the display is quite good.
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Any idea if we can throttle the GPU/CPU or underclock to reduce temps when not gaming? I don't mind heat in short bursts, provided the internals aren't wrecked a year in I'm happy.
Sorry about the noob question, I'm new to such technicality
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Yes, I think it's relatively easy to underclock both the CPU and the GPU. However, you likely won't even need to do that: the nVIDIA GPU is not used when not gaming thanks to Optimus, and CPU frequency will automatically go down when not in use.
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Thank you so much for the detailed answer, it was really helpful
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Optimus will take care of the GPU and Intel CPUs are designed to automatically enter low power C States like C6 or C7 whenever a core is idle. This reduces voltage and power consumption of that core close to zero and when all cores have nothing to do the entire CPU package will drop down to C6 or C7 for even more power savings. When idle in Windows, it's not unusual for individual cores to be in C6/C7 over 99% of the time so it is usually best to let the CPU manage itself.
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It's available in Australia from this website for AUD $1699. It is the 16GB ram configuration and prices are a bit marked up in Australia. If you're from US then I assume it should be available for under $1600.
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HP ZBook 14 is now in play. It's not a gaming rig, but as my highest priorities are the screen and the ram, with weight and build coming in a close second, it's now that machine or the P34G depending on which one makes it to market sooner. Looking more and more like everything's coming out in October.
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I've been debating the Ativ Book 8 for a few days now. According to Best Buy it's available for $1200. Thought I read there was some controversy about whether it's actually the 8870 version as advertised, but they haven't changed that info to say otherwise? Nice screen, but big, heavy and no SSD. Sure I could open it up and change out, and I'd probably do that, but Windows 8, ugh! Change that to 7 and may as well wait it out some more with the price climbing.
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I just meant out of the box. I read it comes with 24GB ssd cache. Changing it out is just inflating the price way too much.
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No specs or price on the HP yet, eh? Gigabyte needs to get the p34 orderable in the US quickly.
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Technically, the HD 8870m is available in the U.S., but it's on the 17" version with the older, thicker casing. Most users wanted it on the 15" with the newer thinner casing.
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That is it but it hasn't been refreshed yet I believe. That one is running ivy bridge and 8770m. Still waiting on the haswell and 8870m upgrade.
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That's an 8770 - not an 8870. Miles apart in performance terms.
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Dyslexia for cure found. I really need to learn how to read, all this time I've been thinking this was an 8870.
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Never thought I'd find a product that messed up it's release more than my Nexus 4 (UK). Congratulations to Gigabyte haha for trumping my wait time on that!
My patience is wearing thin, think I may just bite the bullet and go for the Lenovo Y510P. As it is, this is beginning to look way more expensive than the initial $999 base price given to us in June!
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the y510p isn't really a comparable product to the gigabyte, with the poor battery life and much heavier body
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Anybody know what that one little green lit up box of the three under the price on Affordable means? In the U.S., but contemplating buying from Australia and having it shipped from off-shore instead of waiting another 4-6 weeks for it to show up here with EXcaliber, MythLogic or some such.
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Take a look at Acer V7-482PG-9884 (worse Performance but better Price with touchscreen) or wait for the new Apple Macbook Pro (no specs yet, but we all already know it will be expensive) in October.
Plus many, many alternatives...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0An1ksLSUsclxdDU1NE8zR3dkMG8yRUs1Ykh6N19aVlE#gid=0
These are the usual trade-offs termed as "4P" : Performance, Price, Pounds (as in weight), and Power (as in battery hours). It's all about compromise.
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MSI ge40, clevo w230st, razer blade 14" all have 760m/765m cards and have similar form factors. Clevo isn't ultrathin but it's only about 4 lbs so at least it's light. Razer blade I believe has the best battery life but then again the clevo and p34g are the only ones with 1080p screen, so their battery lives are going to be less solely based on that. The y510 is really heavy, and thick, I'd rather get a msi gt60 or ge60 or even the alienware 14" and deal only with a single graphics card. Also the y510 has a huge power brick; my current laptop also has a large power brick and it's rather annoying to carry around. Of course if gaming isn't a big deal there are even more options for 750m in the thin and light category.
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P34G already appeared in Moscow, Russia.
Óëüòðàáóê Gigabyte P34G: íèçêèå öåíû, õàðàêòåðèñòèêè, îòçûâû
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I don't like those specs. It says Glossy screen, DDR3 Ram - though it does say NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M
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I think they really meant gtx760m.
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Don't know if it means anything but the direct link to the Excaliber page says September 29th. Then again it also says discontinued, but I am sure that is just because it is not available.
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That's the old URL. It doesn't even come up in a search anymore. Dynamism still has it up on their website but with no release date. I highly doubt we'll see this laptop before November at this point. You'd expect that they'd at least send it to review sites by now.
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Aviable in September:
GIGABYTE P34G, Notebook
But the price here is ridiciulous, 1400 = 1870$, they put 33% additional cost on top of the device for nothing...
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In Russia it is over 2000$. Everyone tries to make more money.
And now they fixed 670m to 760m
Óëüòðàáóê Gigabyte P34G: íèçêèå öåíû, õàðàêòåðèñòèêè, îòçûâû -
Is this Gigabyte again trying to announce a product and teases everybody with it then they actually not going to release it worldwide but a few countries???
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Created an account because it seems most people have missed this site which is showing the P34G for pre-order:
Gigabyte P34G UltraBlade Gamer 14" LED TFT, Intel Core i7-4700HQ, 8GB DDR3, 128GB SSD & 750GB 5400RPM HDD, NVIDIA GTX 760M 2048MB GDDR5 - Windows 8 Laptop [P34G-CF1]
It's a reputable UK retailer, with a price of £1160 with VAT. That's £966.66 without VAT for those outside of the EU.
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Thanks for posting. Hopefully the US price will be a little cheaper. Gigabyte is screwing up here by not announcing release dates or allowing preorders-- annoying.
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Strange that they are leaving it up to the vendors to release the info when they could have just directly answered everyone when the P34G would be available. Also, I recall the original plan was to release the 35K first, with the P34G coming afterwards. But with their complete silence about P35K and now this post, I guess that has changed.
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Preordered a P34G from OCUK so lets see when it arrives.
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Now in Australia
Gigabyte P34G Notebook - Black/Silver (P34G(9WP34G002-AU-A-002)) | Techbuy Australia
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It looks like $1500 for the 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD + 750GB 5,400rpm HDD will be the low-end model. That's a far-cry from the $1000 Gigabyte quoted 2-3 months ago. This would be the perfect laptop if it had a 900p IPS panel at ~$1200. 1080p is just too many pixels to push for a 760m so it ends up being one of the many gaming laptops that has either a crappy resolution (1366x768) with an over-kill GPU or an overly high resolution with a not-good-enough GPU. I know it was talked about earlier in this thread but I'm not a big fan of playing in non-native resolution. The entire reason I'm looking at this gaming laptop is because I want to crank up the graphics. If I was ok with 30fps at 1366x768 medium details, I'd buy an A10 laptop for 1/3 the price. Anyone else worried about thermal throttling with a 21mm chassis? If Dell throttles the massive Alienware models (confirmed in 17 and 18 inchers) with the 770m/780m and dedicated pipes/heatsinks for CPU and GPU then I find it hard to believe the 760m and/or 4700HQ won't be throttled in the P34G.
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I agree. I would prefer 1600x900 matrix to keep native resolution.
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Crysis 3 gaming on Acer Aspire V3 772G GTX 760M - YouTube
1080p pushing 25 fps on crysis 3 on high. Comments mention 35 fps on medium. I don't know why people are worried about performance. Sure you're not going to get the same performance as a desktop 760 and you won't be able to max out everything and play on ultra, but these cards still offer plenty of performance with the convenience of being portable. -
It is also available from MSY for $1699 which I think is the normal price we should expect in Australia. Affordablelaptops had it at that price but raised it to $1749. These three are the only vendors who I know of who have stock of the p34g in Australia.
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Thought I share this from their facebook page, its regarding the US realese....
"When will I be able to buy a Gigabyte P34G in the United States? Also, is there a place to purchase it online? I looked on the website, and only saw physical brick and mortar stores, none of which are in Louisiana. Thanks!
Like · · Yesterday at 12:49pm
GIGABYTE NB Hi Jeff, the US sites should release the P34G info next week. We hope Newegg, Adorama, XoticPC, ExcaliberPC, GenTechPC will stock our products. Thanks for asking." -
Having trouble deciding between this and the W740su. Any advice?
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I hope Gigabyte P34G has better battery life and temps than my former clevo w230st.
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Former? My apologies if I'm mistaken, but didn't the W230st come out in August/July?
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Gigabyte P34G
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