***Gigabyte P35X owner's lounge***

Warning: Do not update to newest nvidia drivers via geforce experience! Somethings not right with it, at least in csgo (only tested in csgo).

After installing 347.09, shadowplay fps counter stopped working, micro stuttering appeared while navigating csgo menus. Rolledback and everything is back to normal (.75 drivers)

 

That's weird, I've been using .09 for a few days now and haven't noticed anything wrong myself.

 

About the max turbo discussion: Iirc 3.5 GHz is for 1-2 cores, 3.4 GHz 3 cores and 3.3 GHz 4 cores. Those of you seeing 3.39 GHz are probably running games /benchmark s using 3 cores?

 

Has anyone actually tried using throttlestop? Disabling BD prochot, C1E and EIST should keep your cpu at turbo, regardless of temperature. Be careful though not to hit the max. temp, which is 100°C.

 

I have no idea what those acronyms mean! Could you explain what are these? And how to use throttlestop, with detailed explanation of what are the different parameters ? Even a link would be nice

 

My knowledge of throttlestop is very, very minimal, I just know these settings stop my CPU (i7-3635QM) from throttling at 80°C, (something I didn't even realize until I used XTU).

Here's a link to the throttlestop guide by throttlestop's creator, unclewebb: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=6865105

 

I think it is 3.5 for 1 core, 3.4 for 2 cores and 3.3 for 3 and 4 cores. I know but I have never seen it hit 3.5ghz. I never also tried a single core benchmark or game though, I should try it, good point!

Guys about CPU throttling, I played maxed gw2 wvw yesterday (one of the most CPU demanding games out there) for 5-6 hours without break, under -50mV, the CPU didn't hit 90 and was always around 80-85, no crashes as well. Without undervolt it was hitting 90 easily and staying around 90 all the time. I should get cooler soon, will give it another try after that.

 

I think even using Throttlestop you can't get round the 90 degC temperature throttle point that Gigabyte have set. I don't think you'll get more performance disabling C1E and EIST, because the CPU ramps up to higher frequencies when under demand anyway, no need to run it at full bore when it's just idling.

 

Ah okay sorry, as I said I know next to nothing about throttlestop. I just noticed that my cpu thermal throttles at 80°C and these settings fixed it for me.

 

Problem is, if anybody wants more performance than what at stock this laptop performs (including the throttling), just get another laptop, like AW 17, which has headroom for OC. This laptop is clearly not for OCing, it power throttles first of all, forget about the temperatures..

 

That is exactly the point I was trying to make before. Thank you.

 

I think we can also say if you're looking for a machine with good overclocking potential then thin and light isn't (currently) the way to go.

 

Speaking of power throttling, does anyone notice the screen brightness fluctuating ever so slightly?

It's not auto or adaptive brightness.

 

What if I just want the performance as is, is it acceptable? Most demanding game I would play is BF4.

 

For me performance is more than acceptable, all demanding games can run fluently at 60fps minimum (what else are you looking for right? ), but laptop doesn't feel sturdy, there is something about it that seems fragile. I am not gonna lie, it has its fair share of problems that you might encounter, but I think consensus is we have many users without BSODs right now (I never got one, but I always feel like its soon going to happen ) and this is a 0.8inch thick laptop that has the best GPU out in the market, and with a tiny undervolt, you can get a CPU that also performs good enough, I never experience any stutters in game and play quite a few CPU intensive games regularly. Though, if you are looking for a laptop, that is mainly a gaming machine that you will have looooooong gaming sessions on it, this is not the laptop for you, just get AW 17 or MSI GT72, a desktop replacement with great thermal solution, otherwise the components will wear out quite fast! I use my laptops mainly for general computing and work, therefore it seems like a good fit for that.

 

Are you talking about where there are slight changes in brightness when on battery? Intel has a separate "Display Power Saving" mode in the Iris/Intel Graphics Control Panel under "on battery mode" that you have to disable. Or maybe you mean something else?

 

Guys, do not use keyboard backlight, it takes good enough power itself. Also run on auto-low for fan profile.

 

Ahh, that could be it. Make sense, thanks!

lol. should i plug my laptop cooler into a wall outlet also? This is ridiculous. Did you notice less power throttle with those settings?

 

Nah he must surely be referring to using it on battery... those things even on brightest can't be using more than 1W. I wish auto brightness actually worked for the keyboard backlight though

 

I'd say my gaming sessions are like max 2-3 hours at a time, would the P35X still be a good choice? I just don't want to get a huge 17 inch laptop as it is not that portable. I would be bringing this laptop down to the shore at times, and also like keeping it on my lap to browse in bed or on the couch.

 

I regularly play gw2 on Friday nights for 4-5 hours minimum and laptop stays 70C on GPU 80C on CPU, so I guess 2-3 hours is fine, just don't get it for playing games nonstop every day.

I mean saving every bit of W on this laptop, when CPU turbos, it goes above 47W, same stuff goes for 980m as well, their rated TDP is for base clocks, so I mean save every bit of power unnecessary if you want max performance, keyboard backlight is pretty much a novelty to me anyways so I am not using it (I never look to keyboard when I type and I am pretty sure pretty much everybody does the same).

 

I'm not positive, but I believe that the components will last neanearly as long, if not as long, in the p35x and any other laptop. None of the components are running at max safe temps, and even if they were, there's are reason it's called safe temps. Though your thermal paste will probably burn out faster.

 

I wouldn't play games nonstop as I have a full time job but some weeks I do average 2 hours each day. What's TDP? I'd probably turn off the keyboard backlight as well as I never look at the keyboard either during games.

 

A thermal paste can burn out? How would you know it does and would it damage the laptop if it burns out?

 

It will lose its conductivity over time, therefore won't be as efficient for cooling, I tend to repaste my laptops once every 6 months for best performance, super simple thing to do btw.. Also if you will game 2 hours a day (that I also do) this is a good choice for you I believe (or gs60, if you are looking for more eye candy, that might be better, your call, power vs looks ).

Guys I am testing CM Storm SF-19 and this thing means business for cooling. FireStrike ran mostly with 70C on GPU and less than 80C on CPU (max 74C and 85C respectively, there was a spike with the initiation of physics test, except for that it was always lower than 80C). I recommend this product for cooling pad, seems to do the job well, a bit loud though (expectable as fans spin at max 2600rpm).

 

Ah ok. Good to hear it's not hard to do, I may look into doing it if I get a repaste to begin with when I eventually order a new laptop.

 

Has anyone ordered one with an azerty layout?

 

Me! From ldlc

 

It sucks it went out of stock there. Only place that still has it, (anyware.fr), offers the 1080p/8gb ram/120gb ssd version for €2300 without an os even!

 

@JBGolf52 - I think your usage seems similar to mine, in that you want to use the laptop for web, video etc as well as some gaming, I would go for the repaste when you buy and then just not worry about it. The deterioration in most main stream pastes is very low so unless you are an extreme user you are unlikely to see any benefit in doing it again every 6 months., the big advantage is going from factory applied pads to a professional applied decent paste. I didn't have the option when I bought my P35w so just about to attempt it myself but only plan to do it once but only doing as I run on Stealth or Auto Low fans all the time and it will just help reduce fan speed a little or reduce the very minimal CPU throttle. I'm currently playing Elite dangerous and use the laptop sat on my knee without it getting too warm

 

(Elite Dangerous questions split-off to a new thread)

 

Do not buy from anyware, I have never seen a website screwing so hard customers on price, as you stated. This constant out-of-stock-ness is really weird, it is the first time I see this for a laptop.

 

Wow that price is insane! Here in South Korea it was 2000 euros for the 3k i7-4860HQ with win 8.1, 2x128gb ssd and 1tb hdd, and that's still more expensive than some places in Europe! We don't get to customise here so if you want 3k you have to go with the top model basically.

I really suggest finding a different place.

 

Yeah their pricing is ridiculous. I hope it comes in stock before the sales end though. I hope to get it for around €2100. But first I need to finish my exams (the prospect of maybe owning this 980m beast and my addiction for researching this kind of stuff isn't helping my concentration at all), and need to get my paycheck, so I still have to wait a month or so anyway .

 

I really want to buy it somewhere else, problem is I need an azerty lay-out . I don't think it's worth buying a qwerty because
a) I really am used to azerty
b) the symbol/letter to type my own name isn't on it (ë)
c) even if I get used to it, it will be very annoying for people to use mine, because they too are used to azerty.

What do you think? What would you do in my situation?

 

Holy hell that is expensive 2.4k dollars in states, Newegg ships worldwide, why not get it from Newegg? (keyboard is the only problem?)

 

I live in Belgium. The shipping fees are pretty big I think.

Is gigabyte's warranty international?

I've been looking around for a replacement keyboard but I could find one for the p35k/w/x

 

As far as shipping goes, pretty sure it is about 50 dollars max. Warranty is international indeed.

 

Newegg doesn't ship to belgium. Hidevolution does, and charges about 90$ for it.

 

Yea I planned on getting the IC Diamond repaste when I ordered it. Good to know that deterioration doesn't really occur unless it's maxed out all the time. I do a lot of web browsing and watch YouTube videos everyday (I follow a lot of fitness channels), so I won't be playing the most demanding games out there all the time. Also good to know you are just fine playing with the laptop on your lap. Do you use a cooling fan? I was thinking about getting one as it would keep the temp down a bit and may extend the life of the laptop but I'm not 100% sure.

 

I think if I were you I'd get an azerty keyboard, no one has time to learn a new layout I also think it's better to buy local in case something goes wrong and you need to have the laptop serviced.

As far as buying from overseas I don't see it being an issue because gigabyte has an international warranty.

You said you have to wait a month anyway. I really recommend going local if you can unless it costs much more. Whatever you decide, good luck man

 

Cool! My best buddy lives in Belgium Sad that they won't ship there though, overclockers ships to US for like 46 dollars, thought same would go the other way around

 

I feel sorry for all you foreign guys. The us is so much cheaper than all the other countries. Plus I live literally 40 min from a Newegg warehouse so all shipping is 1 day shipping lol

 

But your real estate property tax is insane.

 

I live in the netherlands and plan on hetting it from hidevolution as well


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Cool, what city?

Are taxes actually included in those prices on newegg and hidevolution?

 

No, you still have to pay VAT when it arrives.

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Sucks, so then it's not actually much cheaper

 

I am wondering about gaming in summer... Currently cooling is already borderline! What do you guys think about it?

 

During winters, my house is 18-20 degrees. During summer, my home is 18-20 degrees. During both seasons I don't game outside.

Dutch insulation ftw

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