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    Gigabyte P35g V2 News

    Discussion in 'Gigabyte and Aorus' started by Scriptabit, Mar 28, 2014.

  1. mr satan

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    Surfing the gigabyte website I just noticed that also in the P34g v2 webpage there is a similar infographic: " NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 860M, featuring 1152 CUDA cores brings up to 47% performance improvement..."
    BUT it's certainly confirmed that p34g v2 will have 860M with Maxwell architecture... so is someone able to clarify this messy situation? :)
    Still hoping that p35g v2 will have maxwell.

    Inviato dal mio SM-N9005
     
    mr satan, Apr 11, 2014
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    If you're in the UK overclockers told me they would have them "around june". Scan said they don't yet have an ETA.

    Any ideas where else in the UK may stock them?
     
    bonkem51, Apr 13, 2014
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    Did just me notice that?
     
    mr satan, Apr 13, 2014
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    I hadn't noticed that - good catch. Unfortunately the advertised 3dmark score for the 35g looks like the typical score for the Kepler based card, while the 34g score is more typical of Maxwell. I guess we will just have to wait and see... Marketing departments are not exactly known for providing reliably accurate information on new products in the tech industry. I am not a betting man, but if I was to place a bet, I would say the 35g is going to have a Kepler based 860m.
     
    Scriptabit, Apr 13, 2014
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    Good catch, Mr. Satan. I guess we'll have to wait a bit longer to know for sure. I'm surprised that the Maxwell variant doesn't offer much in lower power consumption. Still curious about the temperature comparison, which wasn't done.
     
    Shadow Cloud, Apr 14, 2014
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    I really hope they put in the Maxwell 860M. That would really improve power consumption and lower heat output (and it's benchmarked to be about 10% faster than the Kepler counterpart).

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989
     
    dennis96411, Apr 20, 2014
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    It is the Maxwell part..
     
    hfm, Apr 20, 2014
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    You told me you weren't sure in the other thread. Where did you get your new affirmation?

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989
     
    dennis96411, Apr 20, 2014
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    Pretty sure all evidence so far points to it being Kepler in the p35 and maxwell in the p34
     
    bonkem51, Apr 20, 2014
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    The p34g v2 is Maxwell.. It's the p35g I'm not sure of. I'm 100% sure that's what I said.

    Edit: holy snikey I'm in the wrong thread, sorry about that. I feel a little stupid there. Apologies. :)
     
    hfm, Apr 20, 2014
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    I looked again at the site. The core is listed as 640 CUDA for the p34g v2. I still think the P35G V2 is Kepler.

    GIGABYTE - Notebook & Netbook - Notebook & Netbook - P series - P34G v2
     
    Shadow Cloud, Apr 21, 2014
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    I wouldn't trust Gigabyte's marketing material on their website. Everything regarding the new P lineup has been contradictory.

    GIGABYTE Debuts New Gaming Laptops with NVIDIA GTX 800M Series Graphics

    And then in PAX videos, their representatives are stating the RAM is doubled, giving the 870M with 8GB of VRAM, and the 860M with 4GB of VRAM. These obviously contradict what's posted on their website.



     
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    On that top video did I hear what I think I heard???
    I thought I heard that the P35g V2 will come in two models a GTX and GT with swappable bays but the GT version will come with 2 graphics cards?
     
    IKAS V, Apr 26, 2014
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    I think he was trying to say that the Lenovo notebooks had GT graphics, as compared to the GTX graphics in the p35 notebooks.

    Edit: That might not be true, but then a lot of the things he said aren't true. Also, there's definitely no p35 with 2 graphics cards or with the lower GT class of graphics.
     
    crawnit, Apr 27, 2014
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    I wonder when's the release date for this laptop.
     
    Shadow Cloud, Apr 28, 2014
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    Looks like gentechpc is taking preorders so can't be far off. Though I am pretty sure it is kepler, and I am passing.
     
    Scriptabit, Apr 28, 2014
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    I asked someone from xoticpc, and the only info they had was that it would be early May.
     
    crawnit, Apr 29, 2014
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    Based on the drivers for the P35G v2 on Gigabyte's website, it looks like this will have a Synaptics touch pad instead of the Elan that comes on most of their other laptops. Does anyone know how Synaptics compares to Elan?
     
    crawnit, Apr 29, 2014
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    dennis96411, Apr 29, 2014
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    Wow, hope that's in the production version. Would swing me from the GS60.
     
    R3d, Apr 29, 2014
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    My Asus G73 has a synaptics touch pad, no issues with it, pretty easy to have it turn off when you plug in a mouse, I do rarely use it though since my G73 is pretty stationary.

    I'm excited for the P35G/W v2, been looking for a laptop with this form factor that has a disk drive (stupid college requirements want a disk drive), hoping they release more review models for the review sites soon so I can see how it stacks up vs the GS60/60Pro and Lenovo Y50, if its hot like the 60Pro I may opt for the P25Xv2 for the 880M if I'm gonna have a hot laptop.
     
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    Same, but I don't see why it would change? It's weird because on the GIGABYTE's site, they make it sound like it uses Kepler judging by the number of shaders. I'm still a bewildered why they can't provide an exact answer for this.
     
    Shadow Cloud, Apr 30, 2014
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    I thought it came with a 870M not an 860M.
     
    IKAS V, Apr 30, 2014
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    I would be very happy if this proves to be the case. I haven't found a good alternative yet.
     
    Scriptabit, Apr 30, 2014
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    You're thinking of the P35W v2.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989
     
    dennis96411, Apr 30, 2014
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    Gentechpc claims they have the P35G v2 in stock now, even though the ordering page still says pre-order. P35W v2 is maybe next week.
     
    crawnit, Apr 30, 2014
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    So now that the Maxwell 860M is a likely possibility, would you guys take that over the 870M?

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989
     
    dennis96411, Apr 30, 2014
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    I hope Clevo will have some p35wv2 in stock next week. definitively can't wait for it anymore :D

    See this in this website: GIGABYTE P35W v2 "PRE-ORDER: ETA 10th May 2014!"
     
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    Personally, I'm fine even if it's the Kepler 860M. The Kepler still has a lower TDP than the 870M, and I'd rather save the $200.
     
    crawnit, Apr 30, 2014
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    Got our shipment and confirmed the GTX860M in the P35G is a Kepler:

    P35GV2-3DMark11.JPG
     
    GenTechPC, Apr 30, 2014
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    Yikes. That's disappointing.
     
    dennis96411, Apr 30, 2014
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    How does this compare to other notebooks of the same class?
     
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    It's not the performance that's disappointing, it's the fact they've decided to change it to the Kepler version instead. I wonder why, though.

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    It's most likely because there's an 870M version of the same notebook, and having both be Kepler means they can use the same motherboard design. That's what people were saying in the thread for the MSI GS60 and MSI GS60 Pro, which is another case where one version has an 860M and the other has an 870M, both Kepler.
     
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    I think I'll go for the 870M in that case. Nothing new offered by the 860M, and I can just downclock/undervolt it.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989
     
    dennis96411, May 1, 2014
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    Oh that makes sense. After I did a little research I found that maxwell > kepler and that other companies like Razor are refreshing their Blade line with it.

    This might affect my decision too, but is the performance boot really that huge of a margin?
     
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    The 870m should be around 25% faster than the Maxwell 860m and 35% faster than the Kepler 860m.

    Do you guys have the 870m version? If so, how are the temps?
     
    R3d, May 1, 2014
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    What do you mean by 'Razor are refreshing their Blade line with it.'? Razer has a 870m kepler as well in the new blade 14 or are there some news i don't already know?

    @ Ken: Thanks for providing us with the info about the p35g v2.
    Comparing to your measurements of the GS60 Ghost with 860m, the temps are about the same (cpu marginal higher, but gpu the same 74 °C).
    That doesn't raise my hope for at least slightly better temps on the P35W v2 with the 870m comparing to the GS60 Pro with 870m as well, which temps are going into critical high 80s to low 90s!! :(

    Ken, do you know, when you get your hands on the P35W v2? I am very excited to see your video review and measurements on this device. :thumbsup:
    Ah, and just a few words about fan noise on the p35g? Similar to GS60? In comparison to its very noisy predecessor p35k?
    The P34G v2 at least shall be more quite than its predecessor...
    Thanks in advance :)
     
    chris_laptopfan, May 1, 2014
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    It might be from before. I was referring to an article I had just read.
    Razer refreshes its Blade gaming laptops with NVIDIA Maxwell GPUs, multitouch support
     
    Frugoo, May 1, 2014
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    Ah, i see what you mean. I read those rumors about the Blade's GPU being maxwell on other sites too.
    But i am very doubtful about that, as until now we saw not even one single 870m Maxwell. Don't know why so many sites write that down in big letters as if that were a fact.

    I think if there really was a 870m Maxwell on the market then why haven't MSI taken it for their GS60 and GS70? That would have been perfect for their slim chassis. But instead they have heavy heat problems with their Kepler 870Ms.
    Unless Razer gets a big bonus from nvidia by being provided exclusively as first manufacturer with a maxwell 870m, i am very doubtful about this article...
     
    chris_laptopfan, May 1, 2014
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    Well that's disappointing. You think with all the people inquiring Gigabyte about the Maxwell 860M. They would do a Maxwell version.
     
    Shadow Cloud, May 1, 2014
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    The Blade has a kepler 870m. The Blade Pro has a maxwell 860m. Nobody has said that the Blade has a maxwell 870m.
     
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    erm... that's not true. :rolleyes:
    If you look just a few posts back Frugoo posted this link and there isn't a single word about the 870m being kepler, but talking about maxwell on both models. ;)

    (Headline: Razer refreshes its Blade gaming laptops with NVIDIA Maxwell GPUs, multitouch support
    or in the text: " Like the standard Blade, the 17-inch model has been outfitted one of NVIDIA's new Maxwell GPUs, specifically the GTX 860M (2GB GDDR5)"

    In addition to that i read similar information or rumors about the 870m being maxwell on a swiss website several weeks ago, too.

    In one of Linus Techtips videos (from 1:18:30) he also mentioned the possiblity (or hope or whatsoever) that the Blade's 870m could be Maxwell.

    So there definitely were a few rumors and (as we know now obviously wrong) information about the 870m being maxwell ;)
    After all, we still have no 870m maxwell, which is quite sad, as the slim gamer notebooks would greatly benefit from it's better power efficiency...
     
    chris_laptopfan, May 1, 2014
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    Fair enough. I meant 'nobody in this thread', as you seemed to assume that he was only talking about the 14" Blade when he brought the refresh up.
     
    R3d, May 1, 2014
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    I thought NVIDIA hasn't made a Maxwell version for anything past 860M.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989
     
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    Then that was a simple misunderstandig.
    I thought the 870m of the blade 14 was Kepler as well as in every other notebook with this gpu, but when Frugoo came up with his post i thought there were some great top news, which i didn't know already and in the end possibly indicating the blade's 870m being maxwell after all or getting a maxwell refresh in Q3 or Q4 with a maxwell 870m(x).

    But unfortunately it's not and so there's still no slim gamer with 870m AND acceptable temps appearing on the horizon...

    Would have loved to see the GS60, 70, Blade and P35W just a tiny bit thicker but therefore with lower temps and more headroom...
    Don't know why they are designing so extremely close to the thermal borders now and hate the trend for slimmer and slimmer notebooks.
    Just stay at a normal slim level, not super paper slim, and therefore get high end specs without overheating hardware... :rolleyes:
     
    chris_laptopfan, May 1, 2014
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    Not yet, the 870M version will be here sometimes next week.


    I'll do a comparison video next week once we receive the shipment with GTX870M. Haven't got much time to play with P35G yet but I think it runs pretty silent on 3DMark 11, I can test it again tonight with sound level meter.
     
    GenTechPC, May 1, 2014
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    Quite excited and looking forward to your video review and measures. Thanks very much, Ken. :)
     
    chris_laptopfan, May 2, 2014
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