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I think it might be time to create a new thread for x5 v7:

 

I seen a few for sale online, but couldn't decide if it was worth the extra $$$ for the x7 v7 with the GTX 1080.. I'm just concerned about the display, as i'd prefer something with close to 100% Adobe RGB and no backlight bleed. Then I look at the AW 15R3 and see basically the same machine albeit not as sexy/sleek for $500-1000 less depending on configuration.

 

I've been using a 240v Dell adapter. Its a bigger tip than the aorus one.

I ordered the big to small adapter and then the angled adapter to relieve any stress on the port. Been doing this for months and no problems.

 

And that works?! Nice!!
I shall definitely try that. Did the new power brick give rise to more heat from the laptop at stock clocks? What overclock do you use on your X5?

 

Okay so... I've got my thinking cap on and have a very nice project in mind. I know that it is too far fetched an idea but hear me out. What if we could switch between discreet gpu and integrated gpu? Maybe in the locked bios options there is an option to change the graphical settings from discrete to switchable. This setting was there in my previous laptop, a 10 year old acer aspire 5745g with a gt 330m. This; however, could be a problem because the display is directly connected to the 1070. If the buffer of the 1070 was to be made accesible to the integrated gpu, then a new low power state could be attained by the laptop for power saving and battery life purposes. The idea were to fall apart if either the integrated gpu was not present only, or it was intentionally made unusable by aorus and/or intel. What are your thoughts?

Cheers

 

I had this idea when I first heard about the MUX switch of the Clevo systems. Mine was more to see if it was possible to run a display cable though through the igpu rather than the discrete one but realized that would be next to impossible. If the rep at aorus is correct though he did mention that they would be "disabling" the igpu on the v7 but who knows if that is what he meant or not. The current trick, i think, to get the most of the battery life is going to be to see how low you can get the gpu to idle not just in clock but in power draw as well. so something like seeing if you can find a setting to under volt and lock down a really low base clock when idling. (by really low I'm thinking like 150mhz with lowest possible voltage). But since I'm waiting on reviews on the v7 to see how much work will be in front of me (or to maybe say **** it and get the aw13) I can't really test this yet.

 

Talking of the v7, is it possible to "hack" the usb 3.1 contorller on board the v6 and somehow unlock thunderbolt capabilities?
Also, is there some way to get another usb header onto the motherboard or use the sd card reader one since I won't be using it at all.

 

@LiamAcer any luck?

 

I run a -55mv undervolt on the CPU at 4ghz on 4 cores all the time. So I rarely draw over 60 watts. Still though, the machine often draws over 220 watts in playerunknown battlegrounds.
Before changing to a stronger psu...my hwinfo64 showed little drops from the 4ghz in the minimum processor speed column when playing.
Now it never does that.

 

What cache ratio with that @knibbler?


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3.6ghZ

 

You won't be able to do that since only the dGPU is connected to the display; the iGPU is disconnected since Aorus didn't provide a MUX to switch between the two.

You won't be able to do that either; aside from using the same USB Type-C connector, they're completely different. Thunderbolt needs its own controller that will not exist on the v6.

 

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12835525

That's a run with stock thermal paste.

CPU @ 4.1Ghz, GPU @ +145 on core and +100 on memory.

I can't seem to squeeze any more from the GPU and my temps are low, will repasting give any benefits or have I reached the limits of the silicon? @Papusan @hmscott @iunlock @anyone else too

 

Heyy someone got his laptop back. Thats some nice temps for a stock paste job tbh

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Yeah, it's great to have it back.

I'm a bit puzzled why I can't get more from the GPU at such reasonable temps?

 

The desktop Pascal GPU's seem to like being under 60c or lower, water cooling gets them down even further and stabilizes the boost frequency giving constant unvarying performance.

Even though for a laptop your GPU temps seem low - they aren't low enough for Pascal to give top performance, so you aren't going to compete with water-cooled desktop benchmark results.

Also, what PSU does that come with? 230w is typical for a 1070 with a 7700HQ, but a 330w would be nice for 7820HK/7700K to unlock power usage past stock.

You may be power limited.

Anyway, that's a slim laptop, why would you expect top desktop / high end large chassis performance from it? The results you have seem about right for a properly tuned and cooled thin 1070 laptop.

Be Happy

 

Nr.1)
As bro @hmscott says. Pascal performs better the lower temp you can reach. For every 5C degrees higher temp above 42C, you will loose 13mhz graphics max boost clock!! See the numbers below.
42-47=13mhz
52-57=13mhz
62-67=13mhz
72-77=13mhz
82-87=13mhz

2nd) + Your processor performs worse than expected. See Firestrike pysics score with similar clock speed.


The 3rd). You probably use all to weak PSU. Not even sure the firmware can utilize the whole powa from it. Maybe other use a mod 330w. But I don't know. Not very nice reading regarding power and overclocking.....

 

Panic time.

Closed the display last night, went to use it this morning and nothing on the screen.

Power button is lit, windows 'bing bong' noise happened.

Normal I have closing the laptop set to 'do nothing', but this only arrive yesterday so it 'hibernated/sleeped'.

Any suggestions?


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Just to add to the above:

No BIOS option during boot.

Light on screen after about 10 seconds, when desktop would normally be viewable.


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Have yoo tried to force full shutdown with the power button for 8 to 10 seconds, releasing, then hitting power again to start?

 

Yup. One of the first things I tried.

Thanks.


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And yoo cant go into bios either?

 

Nope. Nothing on screen during the entire process from cold boot.


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And yoo have done correct key comand for enter bios in blind?

Edit. You could try unplug it from power. As well remove the battery. Then hold down the power button for half a minute. Then put the battery back in and reconnect power, then press the power button - if that doesn't turn it on, try holding down the power button a long time again.

 

Nope, not tried that.

What would I try if I enter this bios?

I'm afk until this eve now but will try when I get home.


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So I just got back from a great day in the historic city of York (you know, New York, is named after it), and the damn thing boots up fine!?!

 

These are the temps on my previous X5 that hit 15,120 in firestrike (link in my sig still):


Then this at a much cooler gpu temp:


That's a 20+ degrees C difference, I would have thought that would have made a difference?

X5 comes with a 200w power brick. I'll look at getting maybe a 230/330w in the future.

 

Then it's power limited.

Hate to say it, but the firmware will most likely be locked to not use additional power past the OEM 200w PSU... and even if you could use it the chassis / cooling would get quickly overwhelmed, for a few FPS at best.

Enjoy it for what it is rather than try to turn it into something it can't be.

 

I'd disable Hibernation, and disable all the Sleep button's

Let button's/lid use power on / power off as shutdown, or do nothing and do it manually via Windows Shutdown.

This seems to be a recurring Windows 10 issue.

 

Same here, just hadn't got round to it before sleep yesterday. Was the first thing I did when it was up and running today.

Thanks again.

 

It regularly reaches 230w. I use a kIll-a-watt outlet meter.
I think aorus has really done more with this laptop as far as specific 1070 overclocked chip. Gigabyte really designed he whole thing well. I think my gpu power throttles beyond 130w. According to hwinfo64.

I've said it before, I think if the advanced guys like papusan and hmscott, etc were to have bought aorus instead of Alienware, there'd be a few surprises as to what can be achieved with these.

 

230w is 15% over-spec for the PSU isn't it 200w?

That might be a bit far, and so make sure you keep it cool, maybe even run a fan over it. Certainly don't let it get into deep carpet and overheat.

Maybe you can try hooking up a 230w or 330w PSU?

 

Yoo need a mod if you shall use 330w. 200w is all too weak.

I don't touch Alienware's

 

I do use the Dell 240 Watt psu. I posted l my setup a few pages back

 

Cool, that's great

And, so the 240w PSU should allow you to get higher than 240w from it...it's not going any higher than 230w?

That may be the limit then... still it might be nice to confirm it by trying a 330w PSU.

 

Dell's 240w Delta should be good enough for +250W in shorter bench. I have killed two of those

 

That's not a great margin, from 240w to 250w

@knibbler

So maybe do get a 330w, as running the 240w at 230w draw might be too much for that PSU, from @Papusan 's experience

 

Any suggestions for a 330W power supply that's a bit portable?
Please keep in mind that I'm from India and most American or British products won't be available here.

Also, is there any chance that Prema could make a mod for the X5V6?
It would be soo much better if both the vBIOS and the BIOS itself was unlocked.
I shall try to unlock the bios of my system by the end of the month. To try the procedure out, I'll try it out on my old laptop first.

 

Only 330w Psu that is usable and available for laptops... Delta 330W (WxDxH - 3.9 x 7.9 x 1.7). And forget Prema for the X5V6.

 

Why forget Prema for the X5V6

 

He prefer-work with Clevo machines

 

A request could go a long way
And maybe his mods could make Aorus more open to allowing to overclock from bios and allowing custom ROMs.
Maybe @MiSJAH and Aorus Marketing can finally reconcile

Has anyine ever asked him or has anyone ever tried to change their BIOS themselves?

 

A request will be answered with NO. Forget it. Several have tried.

 

Has anyone tried to mod their own bios and tried to unlock it?

 

Not fully. Halfway. But you need a programmer to flash it.

 

I directly asked AORUS for an unlocked BIOS to oc the CPU via BIOS and was directly refused.


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And you were surprised? You have still TS and Xtu.

 

Not really. Disappointed though.


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I undervolt the CPU anyway. I don't push past 60w usually. I'm surprised the total power even goes above 200w

 

PSU's are sized due to the physical constraints of physics, just like cooling in a laptop. To get the safe delivery of current and voltage, there are physical limits to the design.

What you are asking is kind of like, do you have a recommendation for a small 1 gallon jug for travel, something I can fill up and fit more readily in my suitcase than the full sized 1 gallon jug

You may find more complicated and expensive PSU's that include active cooling, but in effect they are the same physical parts with the addition of cooling that takes up slightly - and I do mean slightly - less room.

A "too slim" PSU has a higher possibility of failure due to long term use while overheated.

For now the Delta 330w's are the most robust low priced solutions, about $175 - beware of fakes for much less, buy from a reputable source. Delta PSU's are available and used worldwide.