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    P35G v2 or P35W v2?

    Discussion in 'Gigabyte and Aorus' started by dennis96411, Apr 19, 2014.

  1. dennis96411

    dennis96411 Notebook Consultant

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    I'm currently looking at the two P35 v2 models and I would like some opinions. Is the performance gain of the 870M over the 860M worth picking it over the Maxwell 860M's power efficiency? What kind of battery life should I expect from normal usage?

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989
     
    dennis96411, Apr 19, 2014
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    The p35g v2 doesn't have a Maxwell 860m, it has the Kepler version.
     
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    Really? Lots of people are saying it's the Maxwell variant. Some event posted screenshots of it (it was a GM107 with 4 GB of VRAM).

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989
     
    dennis96411, Apr 19, 2014
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    The p34g v2 definitely has Maxwell. I wasn't sure of the 35..
     
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    The Gigabyte website says that it has 1152 cores, which would be the Kepler variant. Of course they could just be mistaken, but I don't think that's too likely.
     
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    Who are these "lots of people"?
     
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    Damn, a Kepler too… I hopped that the Gigabyte laptop will be a good alternative to the MSI GS60 which also a Kepler but look like they are the same…. Why Kepler? Is that cheaper for constructor?

    So what about the P35W v2 (with the 870M Kepler :))? Will be not to hot?

    Any idea when will be the first shipment arrive? When can we expect the first reviews?

    An last question: which laptop choose between P35K v2 or P35W v2 and MSI GS60 (/Gosht)? I guess the specs are very similar so which constructor is the best according to you?

    Thanks :)
     
    darktonin, Apr 23, 2014
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    The Kepler 860m is only available in the changeable MXM format. So it's cheaper for sure just to design one mainboard for both notebook models with both GPUs to configure it with (860m or 870m).

    I am very excited but also quite doubtful about the P35W v2, because i assume it will get the same heat problems as the GS60 Ghost Pro has with GPU temps in the 90s. Cooling a 870m on such a thin chassis is quite borderline.
    Although i like the design of the MSI GS60 i really don't like the very limited upgradeability, like the ram slots being above the mainboard. So you need to disassembly the mainboard to reach the RAM or the heatpipes for cleaning...
     
    chris_laptopfan, Apr 23, 2014
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    I'm waiting for the p35g v2. The upgradeability seems much superior to the msi gs60. Not convinced about an 870M in a thin chassis so not going for the p35w. Other options are p34g v2, lenovo y50 or clevo w230ss (xmg p304).

    Getting tired of waiting though.
     
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    No it's not. Both the GS60 and the p35g will have a soldered version of the kepler 860m.
     
    R3d, Apr 23, 2014
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    Really? That surprises me. Until now i always only saw models with changeable graphics as keplers, while every soldered models came with 860m maxwell...

    But ok, then thanks for correcting me. :D
    The reason why manufacturers take the kepler soldered versions instead of the maxwells doesn't make sense to me at all though... :confused:
     
    chris_laptopfan, Apr 24, 2014
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    The kepler 860m and 870m both use the GK104 die. So it makes sense for manufacturers who offer both the 870m and the 860m in the same notebook to use the kepler 860m version, since it will have the same pin-out as the 870m. Which in turn means that they can use the same motherboard for both variants.

    The GS60 and the P35g v2 both use the kepler 860m probably because there is a 870m version of them (i.e. GS60 pro and P35k v2). On the other hand, the GE60 and the p34g are only offered with the 860m, so it makes sense to use the Maxwell version since it performs better and puts out less heat.
     
    R3d, Apr 24, 2014
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    This is exactly the information i had, too and that was the reason why i thought the kepler 860m would be MXM, so the manufacturer can use the same motherboard on both notebook models and just have to change the MXM GPU.
    Can you point me to a source, where it is confirmed that the 860m in the p35g v2 and GS60 is soldered on the motherboard? Wouldn't make too much sense for me to use the soldered 860m, as the same notebook models come with a MXM 870m as well... :confused:
     
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    So then in that case I might as well jump on the 870M. I can probably just undervolt it if there's a thermal problem.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989
     
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    GS60 disassembly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raFVNWVkDbE#t=733
    As you can see, no MXM slot.

    Don't have a source on the p35g, but it is extremely unlikely that it has a MXM slot with such a slim profile. MXM slots require extra space to implement are are for much bigger and thicker notebooks.
     
    R3d, Apr 24, 2014
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    But that means, that the 870m in these models must be soldered too? Cause the chassis of P35G and P35W aka GS60 vs GS60 Pro are the same i guess?
    Didn't even know that there is a 870m soldered on the market at all...
    Until now all high end gpus (GTX x70m, x80m) in the past came exclusively with MXM and not soldered, didn't they?
     
    chris_laptopfan, Apr 25, 2014
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    Yep, the 870m in those models are soldered too. The fastest soldered card last gen was the 765m iirc, so I guess the manufacturers changed things up a bit this gen.
     
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    The 770M in the gigabyte p25w was soldered.
     
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    Cool, wasn't aware of that. Thanks for the correction.
     
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    great, now any news about built quality ? I heard it looks cheap : (
     
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    It's already been confirmed that the P35g v2 comes with the Kepler 860M. :\

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989
     
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    The screenshot from the Gigabyte rep says differently, source?
     
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    People who own the laptop confirmed it. Head over to the P35g v2 thread to see for yourself.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989
     
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    Hey im new to these forums I have some question i'd like to ask. But first I pan on buy this computer (UK) from Cyberpower https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/s...OK_EDGE_X6-100 since its about £200 cheaper and I wouldn't be able to afford it otherwise, I want to firstly clarify that it is the same computer as the Gigabyte P35W V2, I know the specs are the same bar storage and ram, the chassis is the same but i cant find a shred of information from cyberpower saying that the chassis is the same as gigabyte, I know it sounds stupid and every aspect of the computer are the same from each i believe, but i just doubt myself. From looking at the cyberpower website (USA version) they sell quicker ram speeds of 1866mhz compared to the max of 1600mhz can the computer be upgraded to take advantage of the higher ram speed because i though the max the laptop could take was 1600mhz. Furthermore from reading every single page of these forums of this laptop i have picked up that, it runs hot mid 90s on cpu and gpu, it pulls finger prints A LOT!, some IPS screens have light bleed and the middle of the keyboard is spongy due to a thin aluminium keyboard.
    1. Would you recommend this computer from the site i said above, I need it for uni for a mobile gaming computer that doesn't looks stupid with all the gaming garnishes.
    2. Is the screen strong does it flex and move, would it be strong enough to travel around.
    3. Where can i find that carbon fibre look alike top to stop leaving finger marks.
    4. are there any regrets about this computer

    And lastly can i add vgjfelix I love your videos, I could kiss you they are very clear and detailed, they really made me consider this as my main purchase, my other consideration was the Clevo W230SS for I feel the portability factor is better. Am i making the right decision, PLEASE let me know your opinions they really matter to me, P.S I will make a purchase in a few days from now so vast detail and good reasoning would be great.
     
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