-VA or IPS replacement screens?

Is there such a thing as -VA or IPS panel replacement screens ? Specifically 17.3". If so where should i look ? Thanks

 

without knowing ur current panel MN# or i am guessing your Laptop Model we cant say

 

Sorry. I am planning my first ever laptop purchase and from what i see i cant find a 17" one with a good quality screen (photo editing / graphic design) at my price range. And its almost impossible also to find which laptop has at least a good TN panel (8-10 bit rgb etc). So exploring what are the chances of replacing the screen afterwards with a decent for graphics work panel. So far the best candidate (because of price and leaving the panel quality factor out of the equation) is some Acer of the 7750G family (i5 probably, 6650 / 7670)

 

17" Precision M6700 or 17" 8760W workstations have very good RGBLED IPS panels. Not sure if it is true 10 bit though.

 

I don't think there are anything out there that do more than 6 bit on TN. If you are editing photos that require higher bit depth support, then either the dell/hp workstations or external monitors (which is cheaper, ie u2410). But you still need a GPU that can drive 10bit display if you want to get 10bit working.

Replacement to ips is uncommon , limited to specific model and cost as much as a good external.

 

i guess the G7 Pavillions are not in the workstations category right?

 

TSU ... I am not sure if my m6700 and 8770w are interpolated or not by my spyder calls them a true 10 bit with full aRGB for gamut. and YES they outclass many good IPS external screens as well. but yes they are a bit high budget. Tijo and I keep figuring the extra circuitry in the 6700 is a true 10 bit controller.

baii you are fully correct. Intel IGP will NOT do 10 bit color nor will any graphics switching that uses the IGP. for example Macbook Pros, or any laptop using optimus or Enduro. yes there are a few exceptions such as the thinkpads that have a second MUX for the dGPU to drive directly.

you can do 10 bit color with most any dGPU but again a caveat you can not do proper deepcolor support with any nvidia gforce as nvidia has nicely kept deepcolor out of the windows and OSX drivers for the consumer GPU's ( Linux will support go figure )


now on to good panels. the sager/clevo units with the optional 8 bit AUO 17" 95% NTSC gamut screens are the next best thing to a good external but you should really calibrate them properly.

 

I think the question is if the OP really need 8bit or 10bit support or just a good screen in general. If the OP can give your exact workflow, then we can give you more precise recommendation.

 

so only Quadro & fireGL cards support 8/10 bit RGB ? (is it the same situation for the desktop cards too?) Are Sager / Clevo fully customized? If so , do they have any online store that can send anywhere in europe? OP = ?

 

for full 10 bit deepcolor support, quadro, firepro or radeons actually, and it is the same in desktops too. ( nvidia thinks everyone doing high quality work should shell out for a quadro or tessla card )

yes sagers and clevos are fully customizable and there are resellers in europe but I have no idea who they are. if you want to look at the customizing etc take a peek over at xoticpc.com for example. but ask in the clevo/sager forum on where is the best way to get one in or into europe.

 

i dont know the techs about colorspaces, depths etc. To share my experience, i used to have an eizo S2202W, which turned quite a dissapointment in reality for the money despite all the nice image quality related features on paper (98% sRGB, 10-bit LUT, uniformity and angles - no comment ...) In real life my experience from two Eizo Flexes this 22" and its 24" sibling they suffer from severe lack of uniformity, especially vertically, contrast / brightness / tonality is hugely variating in roughly three major horizontal zones, top, middle, bottom, the same color / tone is hugely variating in those three areas. Then the viewing angles are of the worst i have ever seen in my life. You really have to stand still in front of those monitors dead center and not move an inch and then you cant know which area of the monitor is more accurate. Totally overpriced both of them. The only good thing, at least indeed they were able to reproduce decently colours and tones with decent balance and they were in this aspect, gamut range / balance / accuracy ages away from the mainstream 22-24" desktop TNs i experienced. White / blacks were totally neutral comparing to average home TN panels and the contrast although of their probably weak spots it wasnt an issue.

Anyways, a panel like that would be a welcomed compromise for my planed laptop. It doesnt have to be necessarily like my current HP ZR24W.

aRGB = Adobe RGB?

 

yes aRGB = Adobe RGB sorry

and the workstations will actually be nicer than your ZR24W ( I have one as well as the dell U2711 and Eizo Color edge units including the CG243W and CG276 )

why on earth were you using the Flex's???? theyre a CAD screen and the S2202W is a TN business screen

 

Flex were the cheapest option here at the time comparing to IPS or PVA .... Workstations are still out of my budget league i am afraid, unless maybe some G7 Pavillion is inside the workstation category or some similar price Dell has a good quality panel. Will check what are my options with this sager / clevo story

 

I think for your budget the clevo based units are best bet. consumer class HP's scare me

 

How can i tell if the 17" monitor they offer in various Clevo configurations is this AUO 95% NTSC one ? From the sites / companies i managed to find so far, in europe, or even toxic, they just state 17" monitor and they don't provide alternative (unlike with the rest of components)

edit:

ok i found in two, malibal and prostar the option stated as 90% NTSC , + $165-185

- How can i find which laptops are AUO B173HW01 V.4 compatible?
- There is a version AUO B173HW01 V.5 matt (V.5 = glossy) stated as 72% NTSC , is indeed less coverage or maybe practically the same and just some color appearance variation due to the different surface ?
- It appears that the Hannstar HSD173PUW1 which is compatible with Acer 7750G (is it? http://forum.notebookreview.com/acer/663001-acer-aspire-7750g-owners-thread.html) is the stock screen of Asus G73, which is compatible also with AUO B173HW01 V.4. ( http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/554002-auo-b173hw01-v-4-g73.html ) Am i correct to conclude that the AUO B173HW01 V.4 can fit the Acer 7750G ?

 

in theory all laptops that match the size and backlight type should work ( LED backlight )

no idea I am sorry

again in theory yes. I know the 95% panels have been transplanted into numerous laptops.

 

In America, Dell Outlet has RGBLED M4700's starting at like 800 with full 3 year on-site warranty, of course that is with base specs in terms of CPU (i5) and GPU (usually FirePro). To get a high end Quadro 4000K and the Premium Panel, yeah you are paying $$$.

 

minor [del]correction[/del] annoyance the auo 95% is only for 15" the 17 have a chi mei(?) 90% glossy panel, still TN, but its going to fit the OP budget at least

 

You refer to the Chimei N173HGE-L11 ? Isnt the AUO B173HW01 v.4 / V.5 ?

What is OP?

 

thats why I posted the question mark after the panel maker, Im not sure which manufacturer is it. Aside that OP is the thread starter.

you were extremely right btw

72% Gamut Matte: B173HW01 V5 OR B173HW02 V1 (They are the same optically, the HW02 is slightly newer and draws a little less power)
90% Gamut Glossy: B173HW01 V4
72% Gamut 120Hz Matte: LP173WF2

those are the models