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    1.8" Hard Drives

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Tissie, Sep 23, 2006.

  1. Tissie

    Tissie Notebook Consultant

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    Hi all,

    I know that HDD's at 1.8" form factor is currently only available at rotation speeds of 4200 RPM.

    Does anyone knows if/when we might see these drives with higher rotation speeds, say 5400 RPM?

    Regards,
    Tissie
     
    Tissie, Sep 23, 2006
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  2. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Not sure if it ever will, with NAND and flash based HD's being the thing of the future not so far away, I would only assume most companies are starting(and/or have started) R&D on that, as well as manufacturing,testing, etc.
     
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  3. Tissie

    Tissie Notebook Consultant

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    Thank you for your answer..

    Could you then tell me if it is possible, to exchange a 1.8" HD with a solid state disk/NAND/flash? If you know it of course.. hehe

    Thanks
     
    Tissie, Sep 23, 2006
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    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Wishful thinking, yes - but without a real prototype to base it on(Well, there are but...I don't have it hah), I can't really say anything.
     
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  5. Tissie

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    hehe ok.. thanks mate.. :eek:)

    It is because i am considering the LG T1, but it only comes with a 4200 rpm 1.8" HD, which probably will yield some performance issues... So I thought if it was possible to exchange it, whith a solid state disk when these hit the market, in order to enhance the performance...
     
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    However, at first, these NAND and flash based HD are going to be very expensive and less storage. Wait until like 3 yrs or more.

    JC
     
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    Tissie Notebook Consultant

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    heh, bummer - then i might as well start looking for another 13.3-14.1" notebook with a great design...
     
    Tissie, Sep 23, 2006
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    There is a circumstantial evidence that it is possible, because an ultraportable Samsung Q30 which had 1,8" HDD is now sold also with a SSD (in South Korea), a fist notebook with SSD, I guess. So, probably just a simple replacement is possible.
    However, the current price premium is above $1000.
     
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  9. Tissie

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    Sounds good.. thanks for your reply
     
    Tissie, Sep 23, 2006
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    Yeah dont worry about upgrading to a flash HDD anytime soon. The standard rotational drives will still be around for atleast another decade. The transition to flash drives will be a slow one, as they will be very expensive. I think I saw someone say that there is an external usb one in existance that has 64gb of space, but it costs about $3000. They will be the same way DVD players, HD TV's, CD's were when they were first released. Very expensive, and not that great.
     
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    NAND flash has limited write cycles and it's rather slow without some hacks like parallel reads/writes, hopefully solid state won't catch on until mram production ramps.

    There are 12" books with 2.5" drives, like the HP nc4400, the P1 UX, and the Lenovo X60. There's no need to move up to a 13-14"
     
    Ethyriel, Sep 23, 2006
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    Yeah MRAM will be anoter big thing in the future. For those of you who dont know what it is its magnetinc RAM. Which means that it data is stored magnetically and not as electrical impluses like it is in standard RAM. That also means that it dosent loose all its data when you turn it off, so that means virtually instand boot up times, along with alot of other advantages. Of course, I must post a link to throughly explain it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRAM
     
    sheff159, Sep 23, 2006
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  13. Tissie

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    Ok, it seems that there's some nice technological advances underway.. but as you guys said before, it'll probably first hit the end users in 5-10 years...
     
    Tissie, Sep 24, 2006
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