1.83 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo VS 2.1 GHz Turin 64 X2

1.83 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo and 2.1 GHz Turin 64 X2. Which one is faster? Which one is overall performance wise better? I'm new to this lapop thingy and I am really dumb

 

The Core2Duo. For more information read the stickies: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=166906

 

i like intel... but that's my choice,, do your research

 

I tend to stay away from AMDs on notebooks, but that's just me

 

Same here. There's just something about their products.

 

But since AMD is 2.1 GHz isnt it better (faster?)

 

Nope,bencharks prove it otherwise.
Plus,the C2D will be better heat-wise(cooler and probably give you a better battery life)

 

According to that list posted above, they are about the same and only the AMD 2.1GHz is unnoticably better. Am I interpreting this correctly?

 

the intel is going to be faster, cause they are more efficient than the turion processors per Mhz.
I dont know about you guys, but I prefer AMD, I have found that my amd laptops are much more responisve than the intel laptops I own, and I think it is greatly because of the integrated memory controller which teh amd's have.
I cannot speak for the turion line, but the AMD opteron and athlon desktop/server processors which I have used in my laptop are much more responsive than their intel counterparts.

K-TRON

 

i wish i had your knowledge when i was your age,,,, but back then this type of knowledge was non-existant....,,,

but after the huge problems with AMDs back in the 586 days,, i've stayed away from them just because of the heat they give off,, and thier sensitivity to voltage fluxuations...

both are good chips.... but i like INTEL... AMD are great for DESKTOPS where cooling is less of an issue,, IMO

bigO

 

I totally agree with you guys, especially bigozone when u talk about AMD processors and their heat issues...i've experienced this first hand with my first notebook from HP which i customized with the AMD Athlon 64 2.39GHz 4000+ processor...the cpu have a habit of shutting down the laptop when it is under load for 20 - 30 secs. I chose to go with AMD because they always seemed as the underdog compared to Intel...but from my experience with that processor which was suppose to be their best at that time IMO, i am never going to purchase another AMD processor again...at least i don't plan to....Go Intel!!!

 

20-30 seconds? It's obvious that you messed the cooling when customising or the cooling system itself was trashy.

 

Yes, that is definitely a design flaw. I can leave my AMD powered Voodoo running at 100% load on both cores for days on end and the cpu temperatures will never run above 58C.
Many AMD laptops have very crappy heatsinks, which is why they overheat so much. Mine has a great massive copper heatsink and it can keep my 125TDP processor nice and cool under full load.

K-TRON

 

How do u go about messing up the cooling? ...i have no idea what u mean

K-Tron: what method/program do u use to test the cpu's temp?

 

get HWMonitor to monitor your temps.

About cooling - I can't tell exactly what you've done cause I was not behind your back watching you doing the modification, but I can guess that you probably have:
1. Applied the thermal paste badly (too thick, for example)
2. Used bad thermal paste or the old one
3. The heatsink not havin a proper contact with the chip
4. A heatsink of bad quality.
5. A problem somewhere else...

But please, before blaming AMD make sure it was not your fault in the first place. Even though their CPUs a bit slower than Intel atm, they deserve respect for everything they've done over the years. It's because of AMD putting pressure on Intel all the time we have such nice CPUs now, not 50 years in the future

 

Umm...ok..i never messed with the cpu by applying thermal paste or anything to it. The only time i went down in my laptop was to swap memory and replace the monitor. I never touched the cpu. The only thing i can be accused of doing (or not doing) is not cleaning the insides, which is not like all clogged up to begin with.

BTW thanks for the temp. monitor.

 

have I misunderstood something? =)

Well, if you never touched the CPU and have such problems, claim your warranty, there is definitely an issue. Probably, it was just assembled on monday by a guy suffering from hangover =)

 

Sorry i meant that i customized it Online through HP. I think i was out of warranty by then.

Oh yea thats a possibilty...

It really is a pain though...to have the comp. shut off on you every time the cpu goes under load at 100%. It sucks...so its just me personally...imma stay away from AMD.

EDIT: Really think about it...after being burnt once before, how could i see myself trusting them again! eh eh

 

If you're out of warranty, I'd recommend you to get a tube of AS5 and apply it yourself. There is a good guide somewhere around here on how to do it.
If you get it done nicely, I believe, you'll see the reason why you shouldn't be angry at AMD =)

Oh, just one more thing. It might seem like nothing is clogged until the moment you take the thing apart and blow through it using a can of compressed air. =)

 

Oh ok...i hear u..honestly though, i'm too lazy to go do all of that right now as i am using another laptop atm from the company i work at. And i'm planning to get me a new laptop as soon as HP implements that new Montevina cpu in their notebooks....my cousin is using my old laptop right now that constantly shuts down...he doesn't do much other than listen to music and surf the web so i guess he's doing ok with it...at least i don't hear no complaints. I told him the trick to keep the laptop running..which is to go to task manager and end the process that is taking up the cpu usage to 100%.

Edit: It was so bad that i got stuck trying to re-install XP once...i will pop in the XP CD, and by the time it was ready for me to format and reinstall the OS it will shut off on me..u would just hear the fan blowing heavily inside...

 

Okay, I understand your point.

However, I would like to insist once again that your problem was not because of a bad CPU but low build quality of your laptop.

 

...so it's HP's fault huh.

I can tell u really like ur AMD...ur being very defensive towards them...to tell u the truth i don't hate their processors because of this but i just wouldn't go back..thas all. And IMO i think the processor's at fault here....

 

On speed, heat and power the Intel wins. Both are good and quality of either should not be an issue.

 

Heh, the funniest thing is that the cpu in my current lappy is Intel, and my previous one was Intel-based too. But most of my desktops had AMD cpus in 'em. The last two still running at my parens' place and perform quite well.

But again, I'm so defensive towards AMD not out of fanatism but respect. =)

 

Sorry I cannot post earlier, I have a full time job now.
I use GET THERMAL, which is a thermal monitoring program which works with AMD opteron processors. It is specifically designed for the D900K, and its thermal output is identical to core temp/hwmonitor.
My AMD runs nice and cool becuase my laptop was designed well and it has a very good cooling system.

K-TRON