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    13.3 inch vs 14.1 inch BIG difference??

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by MTHall51, May 4, 2009.

  1. MTHall51

    MTHall51 Notebook Evangelist

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    Didn't know where to post this question. My question, for those of you who have had both size monitors, is there a big perceived difference between these two sizes when it comes to image viewing or movie watching?

    I am about ready to conclude I am most likely to get one or the other.
    The 13.3 I am kind of thinking about is the Studio XPS 13 ,but after hearing lots of negative comments on the M1330 not too sure.

    Anyway, what do you all think? Big difference, or not so much?
     
  2. ahl395

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    I owned a 14" and have seen 13"s in the store...

    Since, IMO 14" is too small, 13" vs 14" was noticable for me. Not a huge difference, but it was noticeable.

    Even though ~1 inch sounds small, its noticable. Just like it is between 14" and a 15", which seems like an even bigger difference to me...
     
  3. Dragunov-21

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    I'd say the only way you're gonna find out for sure (different people have different perceptions, I for instance couldn't work on anything less than 15") is to see each for yourself in real life. Hop on down to bestbuy or something and get a feel for each.
     
  4. allfiredup

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    Display resolution is a significant factor in comparing 13.3" to 14.1" displays. Virtually all 13.3" (Lenovo ThinkPad X301 is an exception) and the majority of 14.1" are WXGA (1280x800) resolution. Some 14.1" are available in WXGA+ (1440x900) which gives you more desktop 'real estate', although fonts/icons are slightly smaller than WXGA. Most people are content with WXGA on either size display.

    I've also noticed more 14.1" displays making the move to 16:9 aspect ratio from 16:10 (all with 1366x768 resolution). This could also be a consideration if you're interested a wider-widescreen.

    Personally, I prefer a 14.1" with 1440x900 resolution and LED-backlighting! :)
     
  5. John Ratsey

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    I'm also using 14.1" @ 1440 x 900 because of the extra real estate.

    If I couldn't get this higher resolution then I would get 13.3" 1280 x 800 in order to have a slightly smaller and lighter machine to carry around.

    John
     
  6. drummo

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    I moved from 14" to 15" then, for the sake of better portability, went to an Acer Travelmate with a 12.1" WXGA widescreen running at 1280 x 768. Nice small and light notebook, but I found the screen just a bit too small for my +60 year old eyes!
    I settled on 13.3" at 1280 x 800 as the ideal compromise for me personally for weight and visibility.
    I manage to do all my work on the 13.3" screen without a problem, though I do hook up to a large monitor at my desk at home - not because I need to, but because it is there.
    No doubt a 14.1" would give even better visibility, but for me this wouldn't be worth the trade off it would bring in overall size and weight when carting it around.
    I guess you need to decide if you are happy to accept the extra weight and size that comes with a 14.1" screen, which can be significant.
     
  7. allfiredup

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    I'm not sure what you've read/heard about the XPS M1330, but the Studio XPS 13 (1340) is a very different notebook. The 1340 has been well-reviewed by NBR ( LINK), Cnet ( LINK), LAPTOP Mag ( LINK) and Computer Shopper ( LINK).

    Dell doesn't have a competitive 14" consumer product, just the ancient Inspiron 1420. But they do have a great 14.1" business model- the Latitude E6400- LINK!
     
  8. Hoy

    Hoy Notebook Evangelist

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    There's actually a logical explanation for this!

    14.1-13.3 = .8
    15.4-14.1 = 1.3
    15.6-14.1 = 1.5

    So logically, the jump from 14" to 15" is generally much bigger than the jump from 13" to 14", by as much as 1.3-.8 = .5" or 1.5-.8= .7"!!
     
  9. MTHall51

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    I really appreciate everyone's replies. I went back and took more careful looks. Have come to the conclusion that my eyes just don't do well with such small screens, so now I am back either the 14.1 or the 15.4. Is 15.4 the usual size of the 15 inch?? Will most 15.4 fit in the back packs rated for 15 inch machines?
     
  10. MTHall51

    MTHall51 Notebook Evangelist

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    I am just guessing here, but are the 14.1 high res machines fairly expensive? By fairly I mean with a street price at well beyond $1,000.00.
     
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    It's worthwhile checking the dimensions and weight because some 13" notebooks are actually larger and heavier than 14" notebooks.

    Some of the lightest 14" notebooks are Samsung X460 and Toshiba Tecra 14" both weighing 1.9 kg.
     
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    Newegg has a FANTASTIC deal on the Samsung X460-44G- It's on sale for $1199.99 (after $200 off) AND there's a $300 Mail-In-Rebate, so the net cost is $899.99! It's the lightest (3.9lbs) and one of the thinnest (0.8"-1.25") 14.1" models available- LINK

    LAPTOP Magazine awarded the X460-44P their Editor's Choice Award- LINK (The 44P has the Intel P8400 processor vs. the P7350 in the 44G, the 44P also has a 320GB hard drive vs. 250GB in the 44G).

    The performance of the X460-44G should be pretty close to the 44P. The review mentions that the 14.1" WXGA (1280x800) display is significantly brighter than most similar LED-backlit displays.
     
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    Fujitsu LifeBook S6520 (or the previous model S6510) is one of the lightest 14.1" notebooks, weighing only ±1.7 Kg using its weight saver. But Fujitsu also made the 13.3" S6420 (or the previous model S6410) weighing ±1.6Kg using the weight saver.
     
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    15.4" is pretty much the standard. There are a few 15.6" notebooks as well, usually widescreen.

    Fitting in a backpack varies from pack to pack. Check out the measurements of the backpack and the measurements of the laptop. If in doubt, you can get a 17" pack. Also check out which backpack the site which is selling the laptop recommends that you buy, although beware because it's not usually the best deal. Some companies like MSI include backpacks with a few of their models.

    Remember, the biggest jump is from 14.1" to 15.4" or 15.6". These two sizes really are different classes of laptops, the 14.1" being the largest of the portable laptops, with the 15.4" being the standard starting size for a desktop replacement.
     
  16. ViciousXUSMC

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    I say you will notice if you had both side by side or used different ones on a normal basis, but if you have just one and stick with it, you will get used to it.

    1" in size is not huge but since your so close to the screen it has a larger impact on view than say your home tv.

    Im on a 10" right now the Asus EEE 1000H and the screen size is fine, its the low resolution that kills me.

    If the 13 & 14" have the same resolution I would just go for the model you like best for other reasons (looks, specs, price, ergonomics) and not worry about the screen size.

    If however the 14" has a higher resolution, then I would add it into the "specs" category in comparing the two as it does make a difference.
     
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    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    Also $899 with no rebate to deal with - HERE

    That same$899 gives you

    More Ram 4gb vs 3gb
    Better GPU 9650GT vs 9200GS (HUGE difference)
    Better HDD 320gb vs 250gb

    I dont think there is much to think about, the Asus unit is better for the same price and no extra money up front waiting for a rebate.
     
  18. Phil

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    The Asus is a nice deal too. Especially if you play games.

    But if you need portability or battery life, the Samsung wins hands down.
     
  19. ViciousXUSMC

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    Thats why you buy a 1000HE :p

    9 hour battery life, and so small you carry it around like a book.

    I have a leather cover for my 1000H and it really does get carried around like a book, since it stays charged so long and has the multi touch gesture touchpad I need no accesories or charger for it so I can just grab the unit and go.

    I dont know about battery life but it makes sense the Samsung has better battery life since it has a lower gpu model, but for portability I would consider them equal, weight wise the Asus is a single pound heavier from specs, but I could care less and if you say 1 pound is a big deal I have to add you to my official weight wienie list.

    I should also add the Asus has the better warranty, infact they have the best warranty I know of.