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    15 Montevina CPUs on Santa Rosa

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by ken_x, Jun 8, 2008.

  1. ken_x

    ken_x Notebook Enthusiast

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    ken_x, Jun 8, 2008
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    They should be backwards compatible, at least some of them....
     
    eleron911, Jun 8, 2008
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    Meemat Notebook Evangelist

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    Maybe some of the 800mHz FSB ones, but 1066mHz ones shouldn't work (I think).
     
    Meemat, Jun 8, 2008
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    Didn't some of the sager/compal lines have trouble moving from santa rosa to penryn? I suppose I'm actually wondering if my sig computer can support Montevina.

    ...Or am I mixing stuff up??
     
    Duct Tape Dude, Jun 8, 2008
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  5. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    huh?
    santa rosa - platform
    penryn - processors
     
    Nirvana, Jun 8, 2008
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    gengerald Technofile Extraordinaire

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    I think he meant to say, that Sagers may have had an issue using Penryn in their Santa Rosa Platforms. And I believe it was just due to a needed bios update, then everything went smoothly. The issue may be, if the hardware will all match up and work, if the manufactures will update their bios or force you to buy a new notebook, and remember, this is only if the new processors are backwards compatible.
     
    gengerald, Jun 8, 2008
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  7. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    This article is kinda old. I don't think the new Penryn refresh will work at all on Santa Rosa due to different sockets...
     
    sgogeta4, Jun 8, 2008
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    Core 2 Extreme QX9300 - Socket Unknown, possible socket P, might work, might not.
    Core 2 Extreme X9100 - Unknown
    T9600 - SOCKET P, might work, but with downclocked FSB
    T9400 - SOCKET P, might work, but with downclocked FSB
    P9500 - SOCKET B will NOT work on Santa Rosa
    P8600 -SOCKET B will NOT work on Santa Rosa
    P8400 - SOCKET B will NOT work on Santa Rosa
     
    unknowntt, Jun 9, 2008
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  9. zfactor

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    ^^^^ what he said.... ill bet the t series will still work on the 965 once they are out and people start to release bios updates.. i know they will not run at 1066 but they may still work at 800.. we'll see soon
     
    zfactor, Jun 9, 2008
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    Vylle Notebook Guru

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    from what i've read the P8600 is a P socket.. and so is the P8400
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_2_microprocessors
     
    Vylle, Aug 15, 2008
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  11. D3X

    D3X the robo know it all

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    Sorry guys, but none of these will work ever on Santa Rosa as it requires 1066mhz FSB. To say the least, it's the end of the road for Santa Rosa now that Montevina is out. Much like how Napa is not being updated. These Penryns along with the future Nethalem will only support Montevina chipsets.
     
    D3X, Aug 15, 2008
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  12. D3X

    D3X the robo know it all

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    Doesn't make sense to run these 800 fSB even if you can(you can't anyway, bios won't detect or support it). The clock speed will be so slow that it's not even worth upgrading.

    Montevina: T9600 would be 9.5 x 266 (266 quad pumped FSB, 1066) = 2.53 Ghz
    Santa Rosa (theoretically, but impossible): 9.5 x 200(200 quad pumped FSB 800) = 1.9Ghz.. which make it suck..

    Why would you want to pay $400 + for something you can buy for $150? A T8100 would run faster than that.
     
    D3X, Aug 15, 2008
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    All are socket P but what he said^^^^^.
     
    powerpack, Aug 15, 2008
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    I overclocked the PM965's FSB to 266MHz (X9000 ES, 1.288V).
    Overclocked 943GML to 200MHz at stock voltage (looking for pin mod :eek:)

    So, its hard to say if the new Penryns will be supported on the Santa Rosa or not, BUT the BIOS on the various Santa Rosa systems, will definitely not support them.
     
    Andy, Aug 15, 2008
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    First of all, Socket B is a desktop socket and the P9500, P8600, P8400 are all Socket P, which is a mobile socket.



    But is it possible to put in a Intel P9500 into a Dell XPS m1530 with a Santa Rosa chipset? Will it even work, regardless of performance degradation?
     
    bball3904, Aug 16, 2008
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  16. sgogeta4

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    Most likely wont work. If someone can prove me wrong, go right ahead.
     
    sgogeta4, Aug 16, 2008
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  17. D3X

    D3X the robo know it all

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    Agreed. Notebook BIOS would likely be needed for it to detect properly, it might not boot without it.
     
    D3X, Aug 16, 2008
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