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    15.4" WUXGA with good viewing angles?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by kosmarnik, Dec 19, 2010.

  1. kosmarnik

    kosmarnik Newbie

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    Google is less than helpful on this one, so I turn to you for recommendations. :D

    So, I'm looking for a good 15.4" laptop display, by good I mean as high res as is reasonable, WUXGA seems to be it, with good viewing angles.
    I'd be willing to consider WSXGA+ if I can't find decent viewing angles on a WUXGA one.

    I'm planing to build a tethered "tablet" display. The main ingredient will be the LCD, actually I'll be using the whole upper part of a laptop. I'm documenting the build here.

    So, please do recommend me some displays (and the laptop they come with).
     
  2. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    HP 8540w w/ Dreamcolor screen is pretty much unbeatable for angles with it's IPS panel.
     
  3. kosmarnik

    kosmarnik Newbie

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    Seems perfect, but there's none on eBay ATM. Bummer. I just can't get the (expensive) laptop just to cannibalize the screen.

    Any other suggestions?

    Dell e6500 displays seem most numerous, but IIRC they're mostly Samsung panels, which are poor (according to users).

    IPS would be the bomb, but the only other IPS laptop was IBM t60 IIRC. I'll try to get my hands on the one, though it's only SXGA+.

    TN seems the easiest route, even though IPS blows it away, there's a big range to choose from.
     
  4. DaMarcus

    DaMarcus Notebook Geek

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    And don't forget the Dell XPS L501x; the optional screen is one of the best you can get. You can check the review at Anandtech :)
     
  5. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    HP is the only manufacturer selling notebooks with IPS panels, and then only on their two top-tier workstations: the 8540w and the 8740w. The DreamColor2 screens are very specialized; I'm rather certain they would not work in any other notebook. So, that's a no-go. And besides that, they are roughly ~$1,000/each (actually a little more than that, I believe).

    Based on what I see around here, the LG TN displays are typically regarded as higher-quality vs. AUO panels and other makes.

    The Dell XPS M1530 was offered with a 15.4" WUXGA LG display -- take a look on eBay for some of those.
     
  6. Kyle

    Kyle JVC SZ2000 Dual-Driver Headphones

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    Just the screen is $1000+????
    What the heck, arent there computer monitors for $200????
     
  7. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    Do you fancy carrying around a 24" Samsung monitor everywhere you want a decent panel or if you cracked your screen?
     
  8. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Yes, the part itself. On the EliteBook 8740w the DreamColor2 panel is a $550 upgrade from the base display. It is on par or better than numerous four-figure professional desktop monitors.
    Understand that it's a specialized display; it's a very high quality IPS panel with 10-bit color support (which means over 1 billion colors). It also has an RGB LED backlight unit and crazy color gamut (nearly 100% of the Adobe RGB range is covered). It has specialized electronics built into the monitor. Here's some in-depth testing by one of our forum members:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...740w-benching-specs-thread-2.html#post6968854
     
  9. crazycanuk

    crazycanuk Notebook Virtuoso

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    these screens are on par with HIGH end Eizo and HP montors used by professional graphics designers and pohtoraphers .

    they honestly make the best TN RGB-LED backlight screens look like 20 year old CRT televisions with rabbit ears.

    over 100% sRGB and Adobe gamuts CALIBRATED not just idle specs on paper ( MBP 17" calibrated bests at about 67%)
    true 178 degree viewing angles without color distortion
    10 bit per primary color ( 1 BILLION colors )


    Charles lets just send them to Ailimox's review with pictures beside a high end RGB backlight M17X as well

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/notebook-news-reviews/503121-hp-8740w-review-full-metal-jacket.html
     
  10. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Doubt you'd get a professional quality panel for $200, even for desktops. The comparable 24" HP LP2480zx is $2000.
     
  11. Kyle

    Kyle JVC SZ2000 Dual-Driver Headphones

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    I looked at the pics, and I would not say that. Sure these screens are better; but the RGBLED screens are pretty darn good too. The viewing angles might not be as great as IPS, but viewed right on, they are very nice.
     
  12. kosmarnik

    kosmarnik Newbie

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    Thanks guys, seems that my only (monetary) sensible choice is the IBM T60 IPS 15" SXGA+.
    :(
    While IPS is all well and good (22" IPS main monitor here, 42" IPS TV), SXGA+ is not so much for a reading device :|

    If you have any other 15.4" WUXGA suggestions, or WSXGA+ I'm listening.
    The wider the viewing angles, the better.
     
  13. ZaZ

    ZaZ Super Model Super Moderator

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    You could buy a 15" T60 and swap the UXGA FlexView into it. The part number is 13N7076. It's a straight swap on the T60. You needn't replace any other parts. It takes maybe a half hour or so, perhaps more if you're a newb. I would also mention a 15" UXGA has a pixel density of 133, which is much more palatable than the 147 of a 15.6" WUXGA. The swap works on the R60 too.

    If you wanted to build the penultimate FrankenPad and got some cash laying around, it would be a T60 with a board from a 4:3 T61, which fits the T60. Then you could apply Middleton's BIOS hack for full SSD support and 8GB of memory.
     
  14. Kyle

    Kyle JVC SZ2000 Dual-Driver Headphones

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    Woa, didnt know panels cost THAT much. I thought IPS monitors might cost $300ish.
    So the $1000 for the laptop panel is reasonable?
     
  15. ZaZ

    ZaZ Super Model Super Moderator

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    You can get the UXGA IPS on eBay right now for about $160. A T60 or R60 will add to the cost of course.
     
  16. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It depends on your work. Most people are fine with a "lower" end IPS monitor and can spend $300-400. But graphics professionals will easily spend $1000+ for their monitors. Just price search Eizo and see the cost of professional monitors.
     
  17. niffcreature

    niffcreature ex computer dyke

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    A few of the standard laptop screens here claim to have 72% or more color gamut. They need double inverters though (dual CCFL)
     
  18. kaltmond

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    For example?
     
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    My Latitude E6500 uses dual CCFL LCD (WUXGA LCD). I am not sure about the color gamut however as I do not have a way to check atm. (no colorimeter).
    The inverter is typically one board with two separate inverter circuits for each CCFL.
     
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    I should be using the same panel like yours.
     
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    kosmarnik Newbie

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    Mmm, UXGA FlexView sounds yummy. Didn't know they had those.
    I'll use it to build a faux FrankenIntiq.
    Faux cause I plan to slap a resistive touch screen on top.
    Instead of an Intuos case, I'll use the original case for the screen, the whole top part of the laptop.

    So I'll be a lightweight high-res tethered e-reader/tablet :D
    The ultimate e-reader, seeing as Apple managed to draw every other manufacturer into it's reality distortion field, and they're all cranking out low-res tablets.

    ......
    I just found about 15" QXGA IPS panels.
    Excuse me while I go change my underwear.