15.6" 1366x768 IPS Panel?

Does such a thing exist?

You may be saying to yourself "but why on earth would you want a good quality 720p panel when you can just as easily get a 1080p panel?"

The reason is my poor Radeon 4250HD can tolerate run demanding applications in the lower resolution, but when I bump that rez to 1080p, it's going to suffer.

 

nope only 15" panel I am aware of is the 16X10 available for the Elitebook 8540W and it wont transplant into anything. I have the 8740W 17" and wished I could put one in my M17X.

AFIK there are corrently ONLY 3 laptops with IPS screens. the 8540W, the 8740W and the x200T

 

What exactly is it that you are doing that you want an IPS screen but that the Radeon 4250 isn't capable of 1080p?

 

Any gaming, really. I can run SC2 pretty much flawlessly now, logic dictates that when I change the res to 1920x1080/1200 that performance with higher detail levels will suffer.

 

You can always set the resolution lower.....

Please forgive me if I am stating the obvious

 

True. But I'm not sure what an IPS panel would do for you if you want it for gaming. I really don't think you would be happy with the result. Do you really feel the need for better viewing angles or a wider color gamut? Besides, any loose IPS panel you find that might fit your laptop is probably going to be an older less good model with really high response times. Also, if you have a 4250, you should probably save your money for buying a laptop with much better graphics anyway. The graphics card is what needs replacing with your laptop, not the LCD panel.

 

IPS screens typically have higher refresh rates which make them less suitable for gaming than other LCDs(especially so in the older models). Not saying they can't game, modern ones can be used for that just fine, but if that's your priority idk why you'd pick an IPS. It's not like you really CARE that the purple on the character is "really" purple do you?

I'd go with Trottel's advice.

 

Just wanted to point out that the screen in the 8540w is actually a 16x9 1920x1080 IPS screen. And the screen in the x200T is PVA.

 

I thought the X200t was AFFS?

 

From this old post it appears to be S-PVA. Or, rather, the LED backlit ones are S-PVA, while the CCFL ones are AFFS. My point was more that the x200T isn't an IPS screen.

 

thanks for the correction

 

I *HATE* the glare on glossy screens.

Mmmm...anti-glare *drools*

Maybe

I know. But hell, I've already put a faster CPU in this laptop, it's not going anywhere soon.

 

If you want a matte screen, you can just either buy a matte screen or apply a matte cover to the screen. This has nothing to do with IPS.

 

Even if it were available would it be worth the investment? The cost of an aftermarket IPS would likely go a long way, towards buying a gaming capable notebook.

 

IMO, IPS screen is not for notebook. The key advantage of IPS is color accuracy and gamut which has significant advantage in photo editing and the like.

But notebook is not an ideal device for that(screen a bit too small, viewing angle is usually not right etc.).

Sure it is a nice item to have but not worth the extra I would say.

 

At least not the $1,205 aftermarket price tag HP demands for a DreamColor 2 Panel for the 8740w.

 

well there are always people buying a Farrari just to drive it to the 7-eleven two blocks down to get a coke.

 

Urrgh... Elitists...

 

I don't mind IPS screens since some people use their notebooks as their primary computers, but the OP seems to be mistaking an IPS for a matte screen or something.

There ARE glossy IPS screens.

 

Color gamut is more having to do with the backlighting.

Direct Benefits:
Color Accuracy
Viewing Angles (if we're talking DC2 then only vertical, horizontal are not that much better then TN panels)
Color palette (1b colors on the DC2 vs 16m)

Generality:
Typically IPS monitors/panels have better parts used, like better CCFL or LED implementation. Better warranties, better LVDS controllers, etc etc.

Oh yes just FYI there are very few under 20" IPS panels due to manufacturing costs being very high through out with little change until you get to around 20+" (used to be 27"~ iirc, however it appears new IPS technologies have changed that).

In the laptop realm, there is only a couple IPS panels. One has been LONG gone for years. The only one remaining is the DC2.

 

I think the viewing angles are (would be?) the biggest advantage to IPS screens in laptops - I mean, who hasn't found themselves at least mildly annoyed at having to tilt their laptop screen repeatedly to get an acceptable vertical viewing angle?

That said, I really don't get why IPS is so rare on laptops - if Apple can easily get affordable 10" IPS screens for the iPad, I don't see why the laptop OEMs except HP can't get slightly bigger ones.

 

You have to note that the iPad starts at a price of $500 new. Most of that goes to the IPS screen production. Also, when you add more pixels per inch, the prices goes up even further. Also, I don't think $500 is cheap at all, especially when we are talking about a tablet like an iPad.

The thing is IPS is not cheap to develop or produce and the masses would not spend a fortune just for a screen. Therefore IPS options on laptops are getting less and less due to poor demand and high price of R&D/Production.

Yet weirdly, there is an external ViewSonic IPS monitor that goes for $300 on Amazon that is full 1080p on a 23" platform. Yet all of its rivals or even a small size increase to even like 26" will automatically double it to over $600. I guess internal panels are harder to make and produce, hence why the price markup on internal panels goes even more.

 

You have to look at more than brute price though.

Just like TN panels, not all IPS screens are created equally.

 

I'd like to let everyone know that Apple does not use quality IPS screen for any of their mobile products. They are all eIPS panels, these are not as good as H-IPS, or S-IPS panels at all.
They offer slightly better viewing angles and better color accuracy (Not true in any of Apple's products) but that's about it.
I had my Iphone 4 with the IPS Retina Display, let's just say I was not that impressed.

eIPS panels are incredibly cheap to manufacturer, it is how the U2211H can be had or as low as $190~ during sales.
The cheapest non-dumbed down IPS panel is the u2410@ around $480~

 

An e-IPS screen is far better than the low resolution, low contrast, and low color accuracy/gamut screens that come standard on virtually every laptop out there. This is highly subjective, but I'd say that even low end e-IPS monitors like the U2211H, the ZR22w, and the older 2209WA are better than any laptop screen out there except the super high end RGBLED 1080p screens.

Which brings me to the next point - the popularity of $150-$250 RGBLED screen upgrades shows that there is some demand for better screens in the consumer market, at least in the upper midrange and high end, and most of the people who are already splurging for RGBLED screens understand the importance of having a good display and might be willing to add an additional $100 on top for an RGBLED + e-IPS screen.

It'd be great if OEMs offered something like this when configuring Dell XPS or HP Envy level notebooks:

$0 - standard crappy 1366x768 screen
$75 - WLED 1080p TN screen
$150 - RGBLED 1080p TN screen
$150 - WLED e-IPS screen
$250 - RGBLED e-IPS screen

As for higher end IPS technologies, S-IPS has been entirely replaced by H-IPS, and not all H-IPS screens are created equally either - the U2410 would pale in comparison to the NEC LCD2490WUXi or just about anything from Eizo. And then there's 10-bit color, IPS grain reduction, etc., but that's an academic issue since nobody's going to spend $3000 on a laptop screen. Therefore, I'm advocating e-IPS, which is in line with what I was saying in my last post about improvements in viewing angles being the biggest advantage to having an IPS laptop screen.