15.6" FHD (1920x1080) panels and reviews

A few of us have been looking into 15.6" FHD panels recently, and I thought I'd create a thread/post collecting some of that info. Thanks to Darkstone for finding much of this info. I hope you don't mind my pulling it together.

Tech: Glossy TN LCD backlit w/ WLED (blue LED + yellow phosphor)
PNP ID, Manu & P/N: AUO10ED, AU Optronics B156HW01 v0
Review(s): Anandtech, mythlogic photos
Used in: Sager NP8150, Compal NBLB2, Dell Studio 15, Clevo B5130M*

Tech: Matte TN LCD backlit w/ WLED (blue LED + yellow phosphor)
PNP ID, Manu & P/N: AUO11ED, AU Optronics B156HW01 v1
Review(s): notebookcheck ( 1 and 2), mythlogic photos
Used in: Sager NP8130, XMG P500 PRO, Clevo P150HM/XMG P501

Tech: Matte TN LCD backlit w/ WLED (blue LED + red & green phosphors)
PNP ID, Manu & P/N: AUO14ED or LEN40B2, AU Optronics B156HW01 v4
Review(s): notebookcheck, individual, mythlogic photos
Used in: Lenovo W510

Tech: Glossy TN LCD backlit w/ WLED (blue LED + yellow phosphor)
PNP ID, Manu & P/N: AUO15ED, AU Optronics B156HW01 v5
Review(s): Anandtech, notebookcheck
Used in: Asus N53jf, Asus G53jw

Tech: Glossy TN LCD backlit w/ WLED (blue LED + red & green phosphors)
PNP ID, Manu & P/N: AUO17ED, AU Optronics B156HW01 v7
Review(s): Anandtech
Used in: Dell XPS15

Tech: Glossy TN LCD backlit w/ WLED
PNP ID, Manu & P/N: ?, LG Electronics LP156WF1 (TL)(A1) [Dell part H162K]
Review(s):
Used in: Dell Studio 1558

Tech: Matte TN LCD backlit w/ WLED
PNP ID, Manu & P/N: ?, LG Electronics LP156WF1 (TL)(B1) [Dell part C088T]
Review(s):
Used in: Dell Studio 1558

Tech: Glossy TN LCD backlit w/ RGBLEDs (separate red, green and blue LEDs)
PNP ID, Manu & P/N: ?, Seiko Epson
Review(s): Anandtech
Used in: Dell Studio XPS 16

Tech: Matte IPS LCD backlit w/ WLED
PNP ID, Manu & P/N: ?, LG Electronics
Review(s): Anandtech review of 17" version
Used in: HP Elitebook 8540w

*The Anandtech review indicates that the B5130M has a Hannstar panel (based on the PNP ID) but teardown by a notebook retailer (Mythlogic) indicates that in at least one instance, it was actually a AU Optronics B156HW01 v0 panel.

Feel free to suggest corrections and changes, and I'll add to this post.

 

Great job...thank you!

 

This is going to be usefull as I have plans to upgrade to a FULL-HD screen!
Thanks for collectiong and pulling together this information!

 

So which is better?

 

So the Compal in that Anandtech review is using AUO10ED? What about the Clevo B5130M in that same review? Or do you mean the Clevo B5130M in that review is the one using the AUO10ED?

 

Funny you should ask... I mean the Compal. In all of the links, it's the primary laptop being reviewed that I'm referencing, not the comparison laptops/panels. The Anandtech review of the B5130M indicated that it had a Hannstar panel (based on the PNP ID).

*However*, just a few minutes ago, I got a PM from Mythlogic saying they did a teardown of a B5130M and found that the panel was a AU Optronics B156HW01 v0 even though the PNP ID came up as Hannstar! Either Clevo is using 2 different manufacturers but not changing the PNP ID or they made a hardware change and didn't update the software. Anyway, I'm going to edit the initial post to reflect the new info...

By the way, "Shop smart, shop S-mart."

 

LGD LP156WF1 (TL)(A1) - 1080p Dell Studio 1558 glossy, Dell part H162K
LGD LP156WF1 (TL)(B1) - 1080p Dell Studio 1558 matte, Dell part C088T

If anyone cares about 720p:
AU Optronics B156XW02 - 720p Dell Studio 1558 glossy, Dell part 1JC2N

As you've discovered, you can't trust the PNP IDs.

At least on the Dell Studio 1558, a 720p to 1080p swap also requires a new display cable. I've documented this on my blog.

 

"Better" depends on your application. The only clear answer is that v5 seems to be worse. v0 and v1 seem to be the glossy and matte (or at least AR coated) version of the same panel which pretty much covers sRGB, while v7 and v4 seems to be the same pair for a panel that pretty much covers AdobeRGB. If you're in a color calibrated flow, higher gamut (AdobeRGB vs. sRGB) can be better, but if you're not careful, you can have problems interacting w/ those using smaller color space devices. You can check the reviews for brightness, contrast ratio, color accuracy, etc.

The above statements are considering specs only. They are also difference costs, so if you want an answer re: "better" including cost, then I'll need to know your utility function...

 

Hmm, where can I get this type of cable? It does not came with the screen does it?
Also, I've looked trough all the reviews and found that the screen which is used in Dell Studio XPS 16 is the best one (?). But No ID or P/N makes it impossible for me to find for example price of that screen.

But, are you sure that all 720p screens cames with a cable with 'gap in the middle'?

 

Not all do, but its usually a cost saving measure from some OEM's like dell to save .05 on a laptop. Others use the same cable as it doesn't matter because the screen itself won't process the signal on the other wires that are only for 1080p + screens.

thanks

 

I think I'll simply check my laptop before I order one then. Anyone have a clue about the price? And if it is available at all?

 

No, the cable is made by a different manufacturer than the screen. For Dell cables, there are many on eBay. I can't say for sure whether other brands need a different cable or where to get such a cable.

If you have access to run programs on (but not disassemble) a system with the screen you're interested in (for example, at a computer store or a friend's PC), download a program called "edidw2k" (don't worry, it still works on Window 7, even 64-bit) and run it. The report it generates will have a load of useful info. I've highlighted the most useful parts in the sample output below:

Code:

//////////Displaying Monitor EDID//////////


128 bytes EDID Data (Hex):

      0   1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9

  0: 00  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  FF  00  30  E4
 10: 0B  02  00  00  00  00  00  13  01  03
 20: 90  23  13  78  0A  15  D5  9E  59  50
 30: 98  26  0E  50  54  00  00  00  01  01
 40: 01  01  01  01  01  01  01  01  01  01
 50: 01  01  01  01  1A  36  80  A0  70  38
 60: 1F  40  30  20  35  00  59  C2  10  00
 70: 00  1B  1A  36  80  A0  70  38  1F  40
 80: 30  20  35  00  59  C2  10  00  00  1B
 90: 00  00  00  FE  00  48  31  36  32  4B
100: 80  31  35  36  57  46  31  0A  00  00
110: 00  00  00  00  00  00  00  00  00  00
120: 00  02  01  0A  20  20  00  E6

Decoded EDID data


     <---Header--->
     Header:                   00 FF FF FF FF FF FF 00
     <-x-Header-x->

     <---Vendor/Product Identification--->
[b][color=blue]     ID Manufacturer Name:     LGD
     ID Product Code:          523
     ID Serial Number:         00000000
     Week of Manufacture:      0
     Year of Manufacture:      2009[/color][/b]
     <-x-Vendor/Product Identification-x->

     <---EDID Structure Version/Revision--->
     EDID Version#:            1
     EDID Revision#:           3
     <-x-EDID Structure Version/Revision-x->

     <---Basic Display Parameters/Features--->
     Video i/p definition:       Digital
     Setup:                      Blank-to-Black expected
     Seperate Syncs. support:    No
     Composite Sync. support:    No
     Vsync. Pulse:               serration not required
     Max Horz Image Size:        35 cm.
     Max Vert Image Size:        19 cm.
     Display Gamma:                      2.2
     Display Type:                       RGB color display
     Standard Default Color Space:       No
     Features, Preferred Timing Mode:    In first detailed block
     Features, GTF support:              No
     DPMS Features, Stand-by:    No
     DPMS Features, Suspend:     No
     DPMS Features, Active Off:  No
     <-x-Basic Display Parameters/Features-x->

     <---Color Characteristics--->
     Red x:              0.617188
     Red y:              0.348633
     Green x:            0.313477
     Green y:            0.594727
     Blue x:             0.151367
     Blue y:             5.56641e-002
     White x:            0.313477
     White y:            0.329102
     <-x-Color Characteristics-x->

     <---Established Timings--->
     Established Timimgs 1:  00
     Established Timimgs 2:  00
     Established Timings 3:          00
     <-x-Established Timings-x->

     <---Standard Timing Identification--->
     <-x-Standard Timing Identification-x->

     <---Detailed Timing Descriptions--->
     Detailed Timing:       1920x1080 @59Hz
     Detailed Timing:       1920x1080 @59Hz
[b][color=blue]     Detailed Timing:       FE (Monitor string) 'H162KÇ156WF1'[/color][/b]
     Detailed Timing:00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 01 0A 20 20
     <-x-Detailed Timing Descriptions-x->
     Extension Flag:        00
     Checksum:              E6

Nope, only Dell Studio 155x's. However, given that all of the display panels I've seen use the same 40-pin connector, it seems likely that other manufacturers will do something similar.

 

What will "edidw2k" help me? Because I do not got the screen atm, so anyone who has that screen must run that program? I'm right?

 

Right - as I said, "If you have access to run programs on (but not disassemble) a system with the screen you're interested in (for example, at a computer store or a friend's PC)..."

 

Okay, I've got that now
Thank you, but I do not have anyone who owns a this kind of laptop. And shops here in Norway does not sell Dell laptops, I have not seen anyone atleast...

 

I didn't know there's a 15'' IPS available.

 

It's been out for a while, it became available about the same time the Dreamcolor 2 was finally widely available for the 8740w. The 8740w just gets all the press.

 

Just to let everyone know we have a steady supply of the B156HW01 V.4 matte screens, if you want more information please PM us or email us.

thanks

 

Any advice on getting a compatible 1080p screen for my y560, if such a thing exists?

 

Did the laptop ever have a 1080p option? If not then you will have to take it apart to see if the video cable is 1080p capable (if its not all the pins won't be hooked up on the LCD side), if the cable has all the pins hooked up and the screen is LED backlit, then it should work.

 

I'll check my cable as well when I'm doing the webcam upgrade. Maybe this way, collecting info from owners we can create a list with compatable models? Just idea...

 

Has anyone confirmed which of these screens are compatible with the XPS 15 ? I have the i7 version with the 2GB Nvidia card..

 

According to the first post, you have the B156HW01 V.7 screen, so any of the entire line of B156HW01 screens will be able to fit your laptop.

 

The unknown is whether the cable Dell used allows for FHD or not. I would guess that they would use the same cable and just put in a different screen depending on the user's config, but I have no way of knowing that. If they did use a FHD-compatible cable, then you're good w/ v7 and probably good w/ v4.

 

im going to be doing my swap as soon as the laptop arrives (4th-7th) i can let you know what cable came with mine if it would help and if you can wait a few days.

 

Just FYI everyone we posted some pictures for the difference between the V.0 V.1 and V.4 screens

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...-between-different-screen-options-photos.html

 

also, have you seen [Oproep] Screenies MonitorAssetManager voor panelDB laptops - Complete Systemen & Laptops - GoT ?

 

This thread has got me interested about replacing mine hmm...

...who is CMO? This is my EDIDW2K output:

Code:

 <---Vendor/Product Identification--->
     ID Manufacturer Name:     CMO
     ID Product Code:          5523
     ID Serial Number:         00000000
     Week of Manufacture:      8
     Year of Manufacture:      2010
     <-x-Vendor/Product Identification-x->


     <---Detailed Timing Descriptions--->
     Detailed Timing:       1366x768 @59Hz
     Detailed Timing:       FE (Monitor string) 'N156B3-L0B'
     Detailed Timing:       FE (Monitor string) 'CMO'
     Detailed Timing:       FE (Monitor string) 'N156B3-L0B'
     <-x-Detailed Timing Descriptions-x->

 

Chi mei optoelectronic

 

Excellent! I had not seen that... I did work w/ a Dutch post-doc for a while, but I didn't pick up the language...

I might work on incorporating some of that info into the first post of this thread.

One question for you... I've noticed that some sites quote gamut as % of NTSC and some as % of AdobeRGB. I believe that AdobeRGB is slightly smaller than NTSC, but I don't know how to convert. I'm guessing they must be similar because the B156HW01 v0 screen is listed as 60% of AdobeRGB, and you have it as 60.5% of NTSC.

Thanks!

 

www.notebook-lcd.ru/pdf/B156HW01_V_0.pdf --> fill in color coordinates --> 60,5091705322265% NTSC (relative size).

Some panels have missing datsheets and bogus/wrong coordinates in the EDID, in that case we get the information from tech sites as anandtech, usualy sRGB.

I created my own excel sheet to calculate various color gamuts: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18772348/Gamut berekenaar.xls

 

Wow thats awesome! Is there any chance you could translate a few of the words into english? I get the calculation part, but some of the words as they are abbreviated I can't translate them =)

Otherwise thats great! Thanks!

 

You only need sheet 1:
rel. groote = relative size
dekking = coverage
oranje cellen = orange cells in sheet 1, used for comparing 2 panels.
white line = whatever you filled in B2:C4

 

Awesome, thanks!

 

FYI

Here's another review of the AUO11ED matte screen--the same 1080p screen found in the Sager NP8130 and the Schenker XMG P500 Pro:

Review Schenker XMG P501 Gaming-Notebook (Clevo P150HM) - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

 

The Asus G53jw also has the AUO15ED screen--the same 1080p screen that is found in the Asus N53jf.

Link:
Review Update: Asus G53JW Notebook FullHD TFT - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

 

I am confused a little because on internet you can find V.7 mate screen- is it, practically, V.4 or not???

 

I'm a little confused on this too. Initially I was thinking V.4 and V.7 were the same, just matte vs glossy... is this not the case?

 

Remove the screen of your XPS, note the model number and pin configuration/location (it probably will even have a designation after the model number of the screen). It is likely that dell uses screens of different resolutions from the same manufacturer. If this is the case it will be as simple as ordering the higher resolution screen from the same manufacturer with the same pin config.

For example, my E6510 screen is the LG LP156WH1 (TP)(B1)... the tp b1 part is the pin location/configuration. LG happens to also make the same screen in 900p and 1080p. Upgrading was as simple as ordering a LP156WF1(TP)(B1) and swapping.

 

kakapo... add this anandtech review to the B156HW01 v1.

 

so...v7 (XPS15 screen) or v4. Which one is better?

 

Dumb question: Is it possible to get or buy a IPS display with 100% AdobeRGB to mount it in a Clevo P150HM ?

 

are these panels available for sale thru resellers or on ebay?

 

Hello everbody, my first post here on NBR!

I got the MSI GT663 with the AUO B156HW01 V5 in it. Was looking to buy the V7 or the V0 and contacted one of the sellers on ebay UK.
I asked if it really is the V7 they are shipping but it wasnt, they could only sell the V5. Dispite that, they have auctions on the different models, from V0 to V7.
Also they said that there are no tech differences in the different versions, they are all the same and that they have the final schematics from AUO to show that they are right.

I am really confused now

 

Anyone notice that this screen (B156HW01 v4 w/ 95% gamut) can be found in the Thinkpad W510/W520. More information can be found here.

 

will any of these work with 3d version of g53?

 

Sorry for bad english but i try!

I think this is a really good thread but can someone do i little update. Info about newer panels?

I am think i will buy a new laptop. I just found the PNP ID, It is AUO25ED!
Does anyone know anything about this one is it good?

 

The Manu & P/N is B156HW02 V5
Notice 02 insdted of 01

 

As i understand it the W02 has not yet got the high gamut versions in the serie as the W01 had. The high gamut versions of W01 were V.4 matte and V.7 glossy.

 

Hey guys,

was wondering if any of you know where i could buy either the AUO B156HW01 V7 or V4.
I've been checking ebay, and no one seems to be selling the real deal.

Also, i don't suppose XoticPC or Malibal are selling these.

PS: are there any other available high gamut alternatives to build into a p151hm?