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    2.5" 1TB 7200rpm

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by wiivile, Dec 17, 2011.

  1. wiivile

    wiivile Notebook Consultant

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    Simple question... where can I get one of these? I bought a 2.5" 500GB 7200rpm in January 2009 and it's now full. I want to upgrade.

    Thanks.
     
    wiivile, Dec 17, 2011
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  2. tijo

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    Simple answer: as far as i know, there are no 7200RPM 1TB drives. If you want a 7200RPM, you'll have to settle for 750GB. An external drive might very well suit your needs if it is data storage you're after.
     
    tijo, Dec 17, 2011
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    You're saying in 3 years they haven't made the jump from 500GB to 1TB??? Psh.
     
    wiivile, Dec 17, 2011
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  5. tijo

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    I wasn't able to find this drive available for purchase online, and not a lot of laptops can fit a 15mm thick drive anyways.
     
    tijo, Dec 17, 2011
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    a 1tb 5400rpm drive is just as fast as your 500gb 7200rpm... ;)
     
    whitrzac, Dec 17, 2011
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  8. tijo

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    tijo, Dec 17, 2011
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    I know, Tijo. That's why I mentioned the 15mm height. But in his original post he only asked for a 2.5" 1TB 7200RPM drive, no mention of thickness. ;)
     
    WackyT, Dec 17, 2011
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  10. wiivile

    wiivile Notebook Consultant

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    How does one determine what thickness of hard drive can fit in your laptop? (I have a Thinkpad X201)
     
    wiivile, Dec 17, 2011
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    Standard drives have a thickness of 9.5mm, most laptops can only accommodate that height. It depends on how the drive connects in your laptop and whether you have the clearance for it inside the drive bay. I highly doubt you'll be able to fit a 15mm drive in a x201.

    What i would personally suggest is getting a good 7200RPM 750GB + and enclosure to use the old 500GB as an external drive or a 5400 RPM spinpoint M8 or scorpio blue. That's assuming that you need the larger capacity for data storage.
     
    tijo, Dec 17, 2011
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  12. wiivile

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    bump... any update 6 months later? are these available yet?
     
    wiivile, Jun 10, 2012
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    No need for that rpm with the decreased price of ssd and increased cost of hdd, especially since hdds are mostly used for storage and the rpm gives little benefit in that aspect. So no updates yet. There are 2tb drives now though but they are 12.5mm in height.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
     
    sgogeta4, Jun 10, 2012
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    The tendency of HDDs is to go towards speed, not storage. That is why you see a lot more companies manufacturing SSDs and the price of SSDs has been dropping pretty fast for the past two years. In fact, I don't think there is another electronic product whose price I have seen drop so fast. If it is storage you need, like others have suggested, go for an external. Do you have only one drive bay?
     
    maverick1989, Jun 11, 2012
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    due to increased density, the transfer speed on a 1tb 5400rpm drive is similar to that of a 750gb 7200rpm drive.

    there's really no point in waiting for a 7200rpm one.
     
    danishh, Jun 11, 2012
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  16. tijo

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    That is sequential benchmarks, if i recall correctly, a 7.2K RPM drive is faster than a 5.4K in random.
     
    tijo, Jun 11, 2012
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    Depends how you define destroy. For most users' storage purposes, the difference isn't much. But if you do use HDDs as a main OS/programs drive, there is some benefit btw the different RPMs but I still don't feel it's significant since most laptops now a days can support a SSD and a HDD.
     
    sgogeta4, Jun 11, 2012
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    Yeah, i didn't mean destroy in the same as a SSD destroys a HDD, just faster, edited accordingly, i still find hard to have the OS on a 5.4K RPM these days, even a 7.2K since i switched to SSDs, but that's another story.
     
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    I feel the same. After using SSDs, going back to computers with their OS on a 5400 or 7200 RPM feel the same - slow.
     
    sgogeta4, Jun 12, 2012
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    Thats why the sweet spot is an SSD + 1tb 5400RPM in your ODD. :D
     
    Gearsguy, Jun 13, 2012
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    If you use msata ssd you can have dual hdds

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
     
    sgogeta4, Jun 13, 2012
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    Actually, I've only seen 14.8mm 2Tb drive, and it was not available as a standalone SATA drive but only USB enclosure (is it from WD? I think so).
     
    maratus, Jun 21, 2012
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    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Actually, you can get a 1TB 2.5" SSD (for a measly 2.6k$, lol) and have both the storage and blazing speeds :)
     
    Aikimox, Jun 21, 2012
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    Need to bump this therad again... a year after I asked, are there any 2.5" 1TB 7200rpm hard drives on the market yet??? NOT the 15mm ones...
     
    wiivile, Nov 12, 2012
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    Nope. Not enough demand...
     
    whitrzac, Nov 12, 2012
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    People are happy with 5400rpm???
     
    wiivile, Nov 12, 2012
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    I've never stuck with any 5400rpm drive I've received. Though I'd pretty much ditched all mechanicals for SSD's except my NAS.
     
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    Sorry, SSD's simply don't have enough space for me :(
     
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    Pretty much your best bet is to do a mSATA + 1TB 5400RPM combination. No demand for 7200RPM drives as far as I can tell, thanks to SSDs.

    As said before, a 1TB 5400RPM drive is just as fast as a 750GB 7200RPM drive in seq reads due to areal density as well as RPM.
     
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  30. tijo

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    The average Joe Bloe consumer doesn't really care about HDD speed (and probably doesn't even know that it makes a difference) and the power users like many of us at NBR are transitioning to SSDs/SSD + HDD configs (at the expense of the ODD if need be). That leaves a practically non existant market for 1TB+ 7.2K RPM drives.

    EDIT: Ninja'ed twice, that's what happens when you leave the page opened for more than an hour before replying.

    As for storage space, it all depends on your laptop, but technically, i can house 4 drives in my laptop (2 bays + mSATa + optical) for a total of ~1.75 TB in SSD (not that i can afford it) so for some it would be possible to have enough space for anything that an external couldn't hold in the laptop.
     
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    I'd second what tijo said. When I was looking to purchase my laptop, I decided to go the SSD+HDD way. If you can afford it, even a 15.6 laptop has space for three drives. You cna always purchase an external ODD. I've used one and the speed isn't THAT different. Sure it is noticeable slower, but how often are you installing stuff from ODDs anyway? you could get over a TB of SSD space if you really need it.

    How much faster is 7200 1TB than 5400 anyways? Very very few are looking to buy a slightly better HDD when there is a much much better SSD available. Sure the space is a tradeoff, but many of us are happy using the SSD+HDD combo because many of us do not use over 100GB of data every day. On weekends we'd watch a movie. Listen to a few songs whenever we don't use our ipods or whatever (songs, which you can always store on a SSD unless you have like tens of GB of them which, again, you won't listen to every day). So basically, yes, no demand.
     
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  32. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    there are 1tb SSDs, so you technically can do 3.25 tb
     
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  33. tijo

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    True, but i can't imagine what i would do with 3.25TB of storage that would all benefit from SSDs. The tech junkie in me though...
     
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    A 512GB SSD isn't big enough? What are you storing?
     
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    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    indeed
    its not a matter of storage, this is a clear case of price
     
    Karamazovmm, Nov 12, 2012
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  36. MasterRevan

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    I can understand that.
     
    MasterRevan, Nov 14, 2012
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  37. zippyzap

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    I know this post I'm replying to goes back a ways, but so does the notebook... The Clevo M980NU I'm selling can fit a 15mm thick drive, but then it can only hold two drives instead of three.

    Oh yeah, and I wouldn't get that Seagate Constellation. I would get a 2.5" 15mm 1TB VelociRaptor. 7200RPM is so last decade.
     
    zippyzap, Nov 15, 2012
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  38. tilleroftheearth

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    I would not put in a VRaptor inside a notebook (even if it fit). I love my VR's, but they're not made for mobile use, nor are they made to be used without their Ice Pack 'sleds' which voids the warranty, btw.

    See:
    Western Digital Raptor WD1000DHTZ 1TB HDD Review
     
    tilleroftheearth, Nov 15, 2012
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  39. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    you cant also power them.
     
    Karamazovmm, Nov 16, 2012
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  40. zippyzap

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    That's why you buy the ones that WD sells as a 2.5" drive, sans heatsink. It is model WD1000CHTZ.

    $300@Newegg

    [email protected] (note wrong pic, but proper part # and description)
     
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    Doesn't matter which 'version' you buy: these are still enterprise HDD's to be used with only the best cooling solutions (like in properly mounted blade servers).

    Put one of these inside a notebook and kiss it goodbye - no warranty either once WD figures out your use too.
     
    tilleroftheearth, Nov 17, 2012
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  42. Krane

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    Hows HD video and/or 4k for two? And with uncompressed becoming the ever so present norm, that's just one way to fill an entire movie's worth of space.
     
    Krane, Nov 18, 2012
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    Blah blah blah. You're such a killjoy. :p

    If I can score a cheap enough unit, I would stick one in my SFF gaming rig (Antec ISK 300-150). I think it only needs the extra cooling if it was being hammered in an enterprise environment. I don't recall VelociRaptors (at least the 300GB versions) getting warm under normal desktop usage.
     
    zippyzap, Nov 19, 2012
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  44. Krane

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    Read his posts? tilleroftheearth doesn't do normal.
     
    Krane, Nov 19, 2012
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    The company I work for makes video recorders for the film/tv/etc industry.

    2hrs of uncompressed 1080p video with 2ch audio is a little over 230gb.

    A 16gb cf card will hold <10min.
     
    whitrzac, Nov 19, 2012
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  47. Atom Ant

    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    Here this Wikipedia article talking about a WD 1TB 7mm HDD with two platters. Is that true?
     
    Atom Ant, Nov 20, 2012
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