2TB 2.5" 9.5mm HDD - How many version are there now?

Are there any other 9.5mm 2TB HDD`s and which is the best, I just want it for a storage drive.

Seagate bought Samsung`s HDD buisness a few years ago did they not, and was the first 2TB 9.5mm not a Samsung, But Seagate still sell it as a Samsung, but it looks like they have an Seagte 2TB 9.5mm drive now, is it just a rebaged Samsung?

"Samsung M9T 2TB 9.5mm SATA 2.5 inch Internal Hard Drive, PS4 Compatibl"

"Seagate ST2000LM003 - MOMENTUS SPINPOINT 2TB SATA - 2.5IN 5400RPM HN-M201RAD 9.5MM"

Thanks

John.

 

I just bought an ST2000LM003 which came wrapped in a cute little external drive enclosure case.

I believe it is the same drive as the M9T, just rebadged.

It is an excellent upgrade.

 

AFAIK the Seagate / Samsung 2TB is the only one in the 9.5mm thickness and I suspect that it is made in what used to be Samsung's HDD factory since Samsung first used the 3 platter in 9.5mm configuration some years back. WD's 2TB 2.5" is a 15mm thick brick.

People used to buy the external 2TB drives because they are cheaper and then extract the bare drive. However, I have read that some of these external units now use an on-board USB interface instead of a SATA - USB adapter. However, I have just cracked open a Seagate Expansion Portable Drive Model SRD00F1 which I bought a few months ago and can confirm that this particular unit is a SATA drive with a USB interface but I would note that Seagate appear to have changed this external drive while keeping the same name. Mine has a plain top and is about 122mm long (it looks like this) while the current version appears to have a patterned top ( this) and is about 5mm shorter (and may therefore not use a SATA - USB adapter).

John

 

I just ordered an Samsung ST2000LM003 2TB from Amazon UK and shipped by them, Does anybody know how long the warranty is on this HDD?

Thanks

John.

 

Should be 2-3 years from Amazon.. Call and Ask I would say...

 

It appears that the links you provided to demonstrate appearance are backward. The first link is patterned and the second link is plain. The plain top version is the one that is more likely to be a SATA drive..correct? Thanks for the info.

 

I've rechecked the links and see that both types are on the same Amazon UK page as Portable (the plain box) and Portable 2016 Edition (the patterned box). The old version, which I examined internally and contains an SATA drive with USB adapter, is also shown here and I have edited the appropriate link.

John

 

I got my "Samsung ST2000LM003 2TB" i have an 20" tablet, see link, I put an mSATA 256GB SSD in the mSATA socket (not certain if it would work) and the 2TB on the SATA connector.

I found out i could not boot from the mSATA as it`s not an option in the bios, but i read that when installing Windows 10 on an mSATA, You actually boot from the SATA but Windows redirects the boot to the mSATA as it has the Windows 10 Installation., anyway it works so all is good.

I am still having the problem of Windows 10 not shutting off completely at shutdown, this cause the battery to run flat if you are not mains powered.

John.

Below is a test of the "Samsung ST2000LM003 2TB" at SATA300 as SATA600 was disabled by HP with a bios update a year or so ago, though i don't know why.

 

A 2.5" mechanical drive won't max out an SATA 1 (150MB/s) interface (except a short burst of data from the cache), never mind SATA 2 or 3.

Did you look in Event Viewer > System Log to see if there are any warnings or errors at the time of shut down?

John

 

Thank you. It seems that the external drives are no longer less expensive than the bare drives, but I'll keep checking. Thanks again for the clarification.

 

Hi John, I am getting an Kernel Power Error see screen capture in link below, this shutdown problem does not happen all the time, it just happens for some reason.

http://i.imgur.com/Cj6moQC.jpg

EDIT: the shutdown problem just happened again , there seems to be a lot of people having this problem with Win10 one fix is to disable fast boot, but i like fast boot.

EDIT: New fix is to turn on VT in bios, see if it helps.

John.

 

You'll think I'm off my rocker, but try downloading a trial of PerfectDisk 14 and do a full defrag (and repeat two or three times) - both online (SmartPlacement) and boot time too.

You may be surprised what a good defrag fixes.

I just installed a SanDisk Extreme Pro with Win10Prox64 an i5 Broadwell platform and 16GB RAM and it was taking over 5 minutes to shut down - this, on an SSD...

After running the PD14 trial, shut down was less than 5 seconds on that platform. Consistently.

Curious if this also fixes your issues too?

 

I will see if there is a Trial version

EDIT: I installed it, but boot time (offline) defrag of SSD is not recommend.

John.

 

Your choice and caveat emptor (and have multiple backups of your data too) of course, but either is defragging it either.

 

I might have fixed my problem, but i have said that 100 time, since i installed my msata ssd a fast-boot option has appeared in the bios, so i turned off windows fast boot and bios fast boot, and hopefully though i don't believe it, I expect to be back a square one tomorrow or the day after.

I use to turn off, windows fast boot, but windows sleep would stop working, but shutdown would work, so i could not fix one without affecting the other.

Anyway i will see how things go.

John

 

I dont like PerfectDisk 14 so i have removed it , Have you tried Diskeeper 15 i am having problems getting it to work, but Avast keeps on blocking it, and i cannot work out what it is, If i disable Avast firewall it works, I have been though all the Avast setting to whitelist Diskeeper and Ask for action when a program tries to access the internet, Diskeeper want to connect to it`s server and that is what Avast is blocking.

EDIT: Diskeeper is working now

John.

 

This software that claim to optimize ssd data placement, Is it not snake oil, does the ssd built in wear leveling not mean the least used data cell is written to first regardless of what windows software wants.

John.

 

While SSD's do their own internal GC, what a product like PerfectDisk does (like not other... especially in getting the least fragmented and most contiguous free space on a drive...) is something else.

Yeah; on an HDD, it takes over what the O/S does 'automatically' - but only up to a point (the O/S falls far short of 'optimum' - it puts data on specific parts of the physical disc/platter(s) to enhance overall performance.

What it offers on an SSD (just as with the HDD, of course) is the logical defragmentation of files for the O/S over and above what the internal GC does (and continues doing... transparently to the user and the O/S...).

This logical defragmentation of files makes the O/S faster as it only needs to address the first address block of each file (and not all the 'next', fragmented blocks too) as they're being used.

See:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...placement-defragging-with-perfectdisk.699187/

See:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...not-equal-op-space.759056/page-2#post-9743244

See:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...not-equal-op-space.759056/page-2#post-9746670

See:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-built-in-4gb-ssd.484698/page-79#post-6736256


I have been defragmenting SSD's since ~2011 and have not seen any drawbacks (using PerfectDisk's SmartPlacement), rather; I have enjoyed the systems as being that much more responsive (snappy) vs. systems that do not have regular defragging done to them with a premium product like PD.

As I've mentioned before; I usually defrag on the second Tuesday of each month (yeah; after MS Tuesday's Windows Updates are completed and the system has been rebooted at least twice).

But with PerfectDisk, I also disable all automatic 'helpers' such as OptiWrite and StealthPatrol from first use/install.

I also manually adjust the SmartPlacement options so that there is NO free space between the 'zones' - and, I set them up (FOR SSD's) in this order too (see the last link in this post for the png file to see what I'm talking about):

• Rarely
• Boot
• Occasional
• Recently
• Directory

What the above order does is ensure that the drive is defragged fully (data, system files and free space), the files are moved/copied the least amount necessary (i.e. less nand wear) and the data/drive stays as defragmented as possible between runs (~1/month).

The claims that data placement can be optimized (transparently - performance-wise) for SSD's is marketing BS, imo.

The actual work that PD14Pro (currently) does on an SSD with the above settings is real though.

Defragmenting the free space on an SSD gives it the maximum possible 'clean' pages for your next write request to the drive - without needing to wait for GC/TRIM to kick in (if it ever does... on some drives...). It also gives the O/S a streamlined image of the files the drive contains.

Because it (the O/S) only sees one pointer to the data, instead of possibly many hundreds or even thousands (regardless of how those files are actually arranged on the nand itself...), it has much less work to do and thereby responds to user requests faster.

I have not used another defragger that can consistently and thoroughly defrag the free space as efficiently as PD can. That (and the above data points) is why using any other defragger is a waste of time for me.

Hope this answers your question(s)?

 

I don't understand all that you have said, But i will give PerfectDisk a go, but do you have a config file so i can set it to your settings?

OK i have installed PD 14 again, do you have a cfg file or a list of setting i need to enable.

I have an Win 10 x64 on my 256GB mSATA SSD and an 2TB SATA HDD for storage , Since i cannot boot from an mSATA the HDD has a bootfile that starts Windows 10 on my mSATA, This was all done automatically by Win10 during a clean install.

John.

 

Sorry, too much jibber-jabber?

Everything you need is in the last link (the attached png in that link) and the quoted text below:

 

OK, I disabled OptiWrite and StealthPatrol during install, then set the smart placement on the SSD to 0mb free, all were 0 already apart from boot.

John.

 

Did you also make the default defrag be SmartPlacement too? Or, just remember to select the SmartPlacement option when you defrag them.

Also, did you put the 'zones' in the order I suggested too?

 

See photo below for SSD , what about my HDD

 

So should the default defrag for the SSD be smart placement or ssd optimize ???

John.

 

Put them in the order I suggested (from left to right):

Rarely, Boot, Occasionally, Recently and Directory.

This will minimize the number of files that need to be defragged each month (i.e. helps the drive stay defragged between defrag runs) and will be by default a faster defrag run each time.

For HDD's, I suggest leaving them at their defaults if you don't want to experiment for your workloads (free space between zones and their order too...).

I have tried moving the Directories to the front of the drive for HDD's and did notice a snappier system, but, ymmv...

This doesn't matter as long as you are sure you run a SmartPlacement defrag each time.

The only difference is in the convenience of simply clicking on the drive you want and clicking Defrag (i.e Green 'play' button).

Otherwise, you will need to click the little arrow below the Defrag icon and select Smartplacement each time.

I have tested (with each new version) the SSD Optimize 'feature' and it is effectively useless in my environment.

Whereas a good smartplacement run is immediately noticeable.

For the first time you use PD, I suggest to run it two or three times consecutively (both boot and online modes, each). Or, whenever a major update/upgrade is done to software, O/S or data files.

Edit: to clarify how I do the consecutive/initial runs:

Reboot system;
Boot time, Online, Boot time,
Online, Boot time, Online.
Reboot system and use as normal.