2x850 PRO 1TB + 840 EVO mSATA in RAID 0 Benchmarks

So here is my final setup with 2 Samsung 850 PROs 1TB + 840 EVO mSATA 1TB benchmark results. I used a 16KB Stripe Size for the array as I don't deal with large files so that gives me the best OS / Programs snapiness.

AS SSD Benchmark with IRST 12.8.0.1016 RDx3 (W8.1)




CrystalDisk Mark with IRST 12.8.0.1016 RDx3 (W8.1)




AS SSD Benchmark with IRST 12.8.0.1016 RDx3 (W7)



CrystalDisk Mark with IRST 12.8.0.1016 RDx3 (W7)

 

Some impressive scores out there, congrats) How did you manage to RAID those 3 drives, 840 EVO is different to 850 pro! Is this a samsung thing or you can actually RAID drives that are not the same?

 

in RAID 0 yes,

In RAID 0, you can club any drives, I had a setup 3 months earlier of two 850 PROs 512 GB + that 1TB 840 EVO mSATA

Usually it's not good to mix diff. SSDs because if one of the other SSDs has a lower performance than the others, it would bring the overall performance down. But with the case of my 840 EVO mSATA 1TB, it actually has decent performance on par with the 850 PRO 1TB so it was a perfect mix

 

Have you run into 840 EVO slowdown issues yet?
How do you plan to fix it if it shows up?
Those are nice speeds, add couple more drives and your RAM will be the bottleneck, just kidding.

 

never EVER had any slowdown with the mSATA unlike my previously owned 1TB 840 EVO 2.5" SSDs. I know they're the same SSD, but really they're not. For some magical reason, the mSATA never gave me over heating or performance issues since day one. It now has 20.2 TB written and still performs like it did on day one.

 

The reason I'm asking, I have 840 evo 256GB and many members here advised me to return it. But I think I can deal with it, by using diskfresh, restoring from backup, or even defragmenting it, in case slow down happens, I don't know if having this drive in RAID would make fix more complicated, but I'm glad it works well for you.

 

Save yourself the headache of doing this.. Return it.. This drive is junk.. There are a lot of people here who regret ever buying it...

 

In my case, it is my only choice mate, no other 1 TB mSATA SSD on the market. And knock on wood, it doesn't have the performance degradation that everyone complains about

Would I recommend anyone to buy it? NO. Would I recommend anyone to buy anything from Samsung? HELL NO. My next set of SSD will all be SanDisk FTW I just hope they come up with mSATA stuff so I can maximize my storage capacity.

 

I read somewhere, that some SanDisk based SSD often BSOD, my SanDisk based pretty new Kingston SSD had massive amounts of errors, (I'm missing 12 GB of space), but it could be USB3 enclosure issue, not sure yet and I'm past return window on Samsung anyway, if I return it now, I'll probably get refurb and there is nothing wrong with it yet anyway.

 

IF they did, then you would see it mentioned everywhere on forums right? I never read that until now from you. Plus, you can't judge a drive if you use it connected via a USB enclosure. Put it in your system then see.

 

Every online rating and benchmark and user scores and so on say the samsung 850 pro is the fastest ssd on the market. Yet everyone on these forums is bashing it. I don't know what to do....

 

Enjoy it

 

If you have it, enjoy it. If you are looking to buy, go here http://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/ssds/index.html and compare the size you want. Go to the consistency test, "real world" in steady state, to get an idea how a drive might actually perform in an OS environment. Empty drive benchmarks are almost useless. 1TB consistency comparison http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7016/ocz-vector-180-960gb-ssd-review/index7.html High performance (heavy usage) SanDisk Extreme Pro. NBR member n=1 has/had both 850 Pro and SE Pro and says SE Pro is "snappier."

 

thanks. the sandisk and 850 pro both look pretty good. i'm mostly interested in super heavy work loads like multi layed hd video editing in multiple programs at once linked together like adobe premiere pro and after effects running multiple streams and switching back and forth between each other. Moving to 4k video editing soon. So under super heavy complex worklouds that put most hard drives at 100 percent, would you say the sandisk or the 850 pro? would raid 0 be any benefit?

 

SanDisk is tops in heavy workloads. They have performance consistency nailed for two generations now.

Check out TweakTown's RAID0 reports. http://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/raid/index.html RAID has it's drawbacks, as you can read here, performance isn't one of them. RAID0 also has different top performers. Intel 730 480GB is tops. 1TB SE Pro as SanDisk does very well in RAID0. Samsung is not strong in RAID0

 

Heres my 840 evo with rapid mode enabled,,SATA 3 6GB/s is present, crystaldisk needs an update

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
CrystalDiskMark 3.0.3 Shizuku Edition x64 (C) 2007-2013 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

Sequential Read : 1847.859 MB/s
Sequential Write : 1312.032 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 2814.103 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 1698.350 MB/s
Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 208.285 MB/s [ 50850.9 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 111.604 MB/s [ 27247.1 IOPS]
Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 199.139 MB/s [ 48618.0 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 103.889 MB/s [ 25363.5 IOPS]

Test : 1000 MB [C: 22.2% (46.5/209.1 GB)] (x3)
Date : 2015/03/27 8:45:11
OS : Windows 8.1 [6.3 Build 9600] (x64)

I dont think Samsung has enabled rapid mode for raid yet. You have impressive QD=32 results.

And Yes I never experienced a slowdown and yes Samsung has the Fastest SSD's.

Cheers
3Fees

 

CRAPID mode is a fake benchmark improver... @Matrix Leader6 please do rant about this

 

What's this? Are you showing us your RAM results to make us think it`s your SSD? nice try......

If you turn on CRAPID mode, you are not benchmarking your SSD anymore, you are benchmarking your RAM.

Translate that intro real world performance and it means absolutely nothing.

For example, test this.....

Copy a huge 10GB + video file or whatever large file you want from your C: partition to another partition on another disk......

you will notice that the Windows file copy progress finishes insanely fast.....the moment it finishes the copy, I want you to restart your system

then check that file you copied, it would be corrupt, reason is, yes the file copy progress finished fast, but it didn't finish really, all it was doing is copying the file from your SSD to the RAM Cache and not the actual 2nd SSD or HDD you were intending to copy to, then after it goes to your RAM Cache using CRAPID, it is supposed to copy from the RAM Cache onto the actual disk in the background which didn't happen in this test I did since I restart immediately after the fake file transfer progress was finished.

so it's just cheating + placebo effect

And after you read this, you will never enable RAPID again.....it will actually make your performance worse not better

A Closer look at the crappy CRAPID


PS: I never enable RAPID on any of my 3 Samsung SSDs

 

Updated original post with Windows 7 benchmarks

 

lol damn next time I'll just shut up about my subjective experience lest I get quoted everywhere

Yes the Extreme Pro does feel snappier, but it's very much a subjective thing, and LunaP who also owns both tells me she can't tell the difference whether in everyday use or heavy workloads. So YMMV, and again I emphasize the "subjective" part.

 

I knew you had experience with both. Pointing to real user experience is useful, if it's available. Especially, if the user has accepted knowledge in the subject. Good to know about LunaP's experience too. I hadn't seen it before. I'll emphasize "subjective" if I answer this question again.... You know it keeps coming up.

 

to be honest with you, just 5 days ago I only had one 850 PRO 1TB + one 840 EVO mSATA SSD. I was thinking of buying two 960GB Extreme Pros and put them in RAID 0 mode but then I thought, that's too much loss of my money selling the 1TB 850 EVO then buying two instead of one high end SSD. So I just ended up buying an extra 1TB 850 PRO and putting them all in RAID 0.

Another thing that turned me off is every single benchmark I've seen shows the 850 PRO is faster than the SanDisk Extreme PRO so that made me hesitate

 

Not an empty drive benchmark, I go here first, every time. Steady state testing. This isn't the whole story, of course. It seems to be the closest to "real world" performance at this time.
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7016/ocz-vector-180-960gb-ssd-review/index7.html

Hopefully, some steady state mixed read/writes in an OS environment is coming soon. A few sites have added some mixed workloads but they seem to be sequential only.

 

I puke when I look at benchmarks with graph! I closed it immediately! Numbers are much easier to comprehend for me and compare.

 

OK. Here's the old style with numbers (which I prefer too). Note: The blue bar is high performance (heavy usage)
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/64...d-review-the-new-performance-king/index7.html

 

Thank you sir, now I am able to compare. It's a very close call between the two and I don't think one would notice the difference other than in benchmarks (feel free to disagree about that) yet it is clear that the SanDisk Extreme PRO and the 850 PRO blow the other SSDs out of the water

 

I don't disagree.
My decision would be based on MY workflow (heavier usage than the average consumer) so I look to the high performance in steady state. The laptop I'm on now, light usage, has an Intel 335, good enough for this purpose. If I was buying for this machine today, I would be looking at a Crucial MX100. Low price and good in light to very light usage.

 

I actually have the Crucial MX100 512GB on my wife's laptop. It is a Dell Vostro so it's a basic laptop you know, didn't wanna spend a lot so I got her the Crucial MX100 and it exceeded my expectations to be honest. Excellent 4K speeds in both read and write and very consistent performance. Can't beat a 512GB SSD that performs that well for only $190 USD