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    3.5" WD 300GB VelociRaptor in a Notebook

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by RandomX, Jun 8, 2008.

  1. RandomX

    RandomX Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi All,

    I saw the new 300GB 3.5" WD Velociraptor Hard drive (10000rpm) is only a 2.5" drive with some extra cooling around it...

    the extra cooling is removable, therefore we can have a 2.5" 10000rpm 300GB hard drive...

    how would this go in a notebook environment?
     
  2. stewie

    stewie What the deuce?

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    True it is only a 2.5" harddrive, but it's 15 mm thick, which is thicker than regular notebook HDDs, so it will not fit in most notebooks. Most 2.5" laptop HDDs today are 9.5 mm thick.
     
  3. unknowntt

    unknowntt Notebook Evangelist

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    That'd be f**king sweet if you could jam that in a laptop, 10k RPM. Get a couple and RAID 0 them up.
     
  4. RandomX

    RandomX Notebook Enthusiast

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    ok thanks, it sure would be sweet though...
     
  5. stewie

    stewie What the deuce?

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    Yeah it would be, but then we'll have to deal with the heat, I'm sure that heavy duty heatsink is not for decoration. :D
     
  6. Jaycee8980

    Jaycee8980 Notebook Deity

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    I agree. Imagine the boot up times :)
    But as many gaming notebooks are already pushing the barrier between working condition and frying condition. I don't think a 10,000 RPM HDD built for DESKTOPS would be that great of an idea.
     
  7. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    I will get one as soon as I get my laptop back from Canada.
    The problem is, 99% of most laptops do not have a 12volt line in their sata connections. My laptop does, has been tested with a voltmeter. I also have a modifiedd harddrive bay and additional harddrive cooling. SO hopefully my painter can get my system back to me within the next few weeks, so that I can assemble it, and maybe buy the velociraptor.

    K-TRON
     
  8. The_Observer

    The_Observer 9262 is the best:)

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    Let us know K-tron :)
     
  9. unknowntt

    unknowntt Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes PLEASE K-TRON let us know how it goes, cause it sounds insane.
     
  10. lastrebelstanding

    lastrebelstanding Notebook Evangelist

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    K-Tron did you read my PM?
     
  11. dietcokefiend

    dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend

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    God, most notebooks dont even have active cooling around the hard drive, and now you want to stick a drive that requires MASSIVE cooling in that spot without its heatsink? Let me know how it goes, just let me slowly back away and take cover before you fire it up ;)
     
  12. 660hpv12

    660hpv12 Notebook Deity

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    yep pop it in, and show me the fireworks. but seriously the laptop is going to over heat as soon as it boots up, or even before it boots up. honestly just get a SSD
     
  13. Jerry Jackson

    Jerry Jackson Administrator NBR Reviewer

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    I can't say for sure whether the VelociRaptor would be a fire risk to a notebook, but I can tell you that Western Digital made it clear multiple times that the VelociRaptor is NOT rated for notebook use, is not designed for notebook use, and the removal of the Ice Pack heat sink for mounting in a notebook would void the manufacturer's warranty.

    I'm not going to say it's technically impossible, but I will say that I personally would never install the current VelociRaptor in a notebook. There's a reason our review of that HDD was published over on DesktopReview.com and not here on NotebookReview.com
     
  14. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The VelociRaptor actually runs really cool with and without the heatsink... http://www.legitreviews.com/article/699/7/

    Also, even in desktopreview, they say it's cool, though they don't test it without it.
     
  15. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    K-TRON has active cooling for his HDD,meaning a fan , so he's safe in this regard as long as he gets the heatsink mounted too...
    That's what pioneers are for, if other wouldn't burn their stuff before us, we'd have to do it :D
     
  16. michellelane71

    michellelane71 Notebook Geek

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    I just tried to put a Velociraptor in my Dell XPS M1730 I will not even power up the drive. stinks. because our drive bay is big enough.. wonder if we can mod the connector ?
     
  17. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    You most likely do not have a 12 volt line on your laptop in teh sata port.

    I know I cannot upgrade to the velociraptor for some time cause my motherboard happened to die two nights ago, so I have no system right now.
    I cant believe the speaker shorted out the motherboard, now I have to wait to get a new motherboard, and hope that I dont have to pay for anything other than shipping.

    chrisvolker got his velociraptor for his d901/sager and he cant get it to spool up either. Its just cause almost every laptop does not have a 12 volt line in the sata controller. Luckily mine has a raid controller with a 12volt line out, I just have to hope the 12volt line has enough power to run the velociraptor. If not I will have to add an extra 12volt power line from somewhere else on the system.

    K-TRON
     
  18. bigozone

    bigozone JellyRoll touring now

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    spoken like a true MODer.... glad to see someone else not afraid to run a wire from a voltage point somewhere else on the MB...

    you go KT
     
  19. mick338

    mick338 Newbie

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    ok, here's how i did it. i wired a addonics sata pwr supply and powerd the raptor that way. I'm also working on how to modify the motherboard and connectors on my 900t. anyone wanna help me find a board schematic?
     
  20. nu_D

    nu_D Notebook Deity

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    or....... u can save yourselves the trouble and get an SSD that asteroids the raptor. :p
     
  21. Ayle

    Ayle Trailblazer

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    Ditto.......
     
  22. sgogeta4

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    It is for decoration.. it also is an adapter for the 2.5" drive in a 3.5" format. The drive runs cool w/o the heatsink.
     
  23. laserbullet

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    Ssssh, don't tell them that yet, we want to see them get it to work first.
     
  24. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    yeah, first we want to see the laptop burning, then we can suggest ssd's that outperform a raptor by a factor 2 to 100 depending on the task :)
     
  25. stevezachtech

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    10000 rpm HDD sounds unbelievable, hopefully it won't shake and rattle.
     
  26. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    you guys are missing the point, it simply is not going to power up in any laptop, unless you can somehow power it via a 12V connection.

    K-TRON