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    4GB Sticks?

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by FGLRXandYou, Jul 15, 2007.

  1. aaa

    aaa Notebook Consultant

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    Hrm? So Intel came out with those new 800mhz fsb chips for no reason, eh? You're probably referring to how increasing the fsb above the ram speed makes no difference, but the newest 800mhz chips are still not taking full advantage of dual channel 667 ram. You'll see that Intel will need to make yet another laptop socket when they hit 3+ ghz speeds and start needing the extra ram speed badly. On the desktop side, Intel quadcores need the FSB for things other than ram too, like core to core communication, another potential bottleneck when they speed up.

    BTW, there are Windows-based tools to manipulate that stuff.
     
  2. FGLRXandYou

    FGLRXandYou Notebook Consultant

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    They increase the FSB in order to increase the hz itself. The hz is a function of the fsb * a multiplier.. or.. some such ::gesture:: bleh, irrelevant. In the end, the bottleneck isn't the RAM, not.. the RAM itself. Perhaps I'm just misunderstanding what you're saying, I dunno.
     
  3. Laptop.com.au

    Laptop.com.au Notebook Enthusiast

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    i am simply telling you what has been tested by me and many other users
     
  4. Laptop.com.au

    Laptop.com.au Notebook Enthusiast

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    i am a beta tester for Corsair
    they haven't got anything that i know of
     
  5. lupin..the..3rd

    lupin..the..3rd Notebook Evangelist

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    Mine was the Octane2 variety, so technically, it was built in 2000 and is only 7 years old now. But the Octane2 was really just an upgraded Octane (released in 1997 - 10 years ago) with blue skins instead of green.

    Dual R14000 processors @ 600 Mhz
    8 GB of ECC RAM
    V12 graphics with dual-DVI and 128MB RAM
    digital 24bit Audio
    3x 146GB Ultra3 SCSI disks
    IRIX 6.5.22

    It also has a point-to-point dedicated bandwidth expansion 'bus' in a star topology. Similar concept to PCI-Express. It has no system bus - everything was linked together using the router on this point-to-point network - the expansion cards, the memory, the CPU - everything. Very low latency and high bandwidth, it's a sexy marvelous design.

    I really hated to sell it, but all my applications were eventually ported to Linux. This Octane2 had a 800 watt power supply so it consumed a lot of electricity and put out a lot of heat. I replaced it with a P4 workstation running Linux - and it turns out some tasks ran slower on the 2.4 P4 than they did on the old Octane2.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Octane

    I still have three real workstations, although they're just hobby machines at this point, not for real work any more:

    Sun Sparcstation 20 with quad processors (125 Mhz Ross HyperSparc's) and 512 MB ECC. Running Solaris of course. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARCstation

    I also have a DEC Alpha workstation. 21164A @ 500 Mhz, 512 MB ECC and SCSI RAID controller. This one is a DEC PC164 motherboard which is standard ATX form factor. I have it in an aluminum Lian-Li desktop case so it looks like a modern gamer rig on the outside! :p Triple boot between Linux, Tru64 v5.1a, and OpenVMS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEC_Alpha

    Last one is an SGI Indy. Just like the one in the movie Jurassic Park. :p It has an R5000 SC @ 180 Mhz, 256 MB ECC, and the XZ graphics board for hardware accelerated 3D. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Indy

    I'm also lupin..the..3rd over on nekochan.net if you really want to talk about sexy SGI workstations some more. ;)
     
  6. SymphonyX

    SymphonyX Notebook Evangelist

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    146GB SCSI drives and 8 GB RAM all packed in a casing like that in 1997? Wow... that must have cost a bundle.
     
  7. lupin..the..3rd

    lupin..the..3rd Notebook Evangelist

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    Mine was built in 2000, but the Octane model was first sold in 1997. I didn't buy mine new. Brand new, fully loaded like this one was, it cost more than many luxury cars. :eek:

    What can I say, I have a thing for high-end hardware. intel peecee's are tinker toys in comparison! :p
     
  8. FGLRXandYou

    FGLRXandYou Notebook Consultant

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    /me cries
    /me want ram
     
  9. Laptop.com.au

    Laptop.com.au Notebook Enthusiast

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    LOL

    you should get a dedicated PC if you are number crunching so much

    or for office build a rendering farm

    laptops are just that >> laptops
    when they catch up to that sort of tech.........we will all move to something more powerful in desktops and viscous circle begins........
     
  10. crispie123

    crispie123 Newbie

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    Laptop.com.au Notebook Enthusiast

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    emails Tony at OCZ to get some sticks for testing :D
     
  12. Laptop.com.au

    Laptop.com.au Notebook Enthusiast

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    dude that is a 4GB kit :rolleyes:

    OCZ Part# OCZ2MV6674GK

    i confirmed with Tony from OCZ that there is no such product as 4GB single sticks
     
  13. miner

    miner Notebook Nobel Laureate

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  14. INEEDMONEY

    INEEDMONEY Homicidal Teddy Bear

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    Interesting topic...learned alot


    But that Dell is going to cost quite a bit.
     
  15. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Dell with expensive memory pricing!? Whatever next..... A pig that CAN'T fly? :p
     
  16. gorganzola

    gorganzola Newbie

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    Sorry, to come late to the party. Here is a "well actually" there are 4GB sticks:
    http://www.modulestech.com/psod.htm#SD2B16-B
    I just don't know if I need x8 or x16 chips. I would guess(!) x16 for dual channel.
    There is also:
    http://www.stec-inc.com/products/DRAM/DDR2.php
    and
    http://www.virtium.com/
    Although you have to nose arround to find them.

    The biggest problem I see is that the "Santa Rosa" implementation of centrino pro only has 33 address lines (gives 4GB memory + 4GB for hardware addresses) out of the 36 possible for the P965 chipset. To get 8GB in a laptop you will need 34 address lines which would give 8GB memory and 8GB for hardware.
     
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    aaa Notebook Consultant

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    kanehi Notebook Deity

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    Vista x64 can recognize 4gb and beyond. I wouldn't mind getting 4gb RAM sticks if it's available for my laptop. Some older motherboards can only use 2gb max.
     
  19. ANorecticUS

    ANorecticUS Notebook Guru

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    If someone with a MBP (SR) could pop in two of these 4GB sticks and tell if he can utilize full 8GB... I would appreciate it!
     
  20. adam_j_bradley

    adam_j_bradley Notebook Enthusiast

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    Anyone know if you can buy RAM for that Dell yet?
     
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    adam_j_bradley Notebook Enthusiast

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    vinumsv MobileFreak™

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    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Most of the new Montevina laptops can support 8GB of memory. Examples being Dell Latitude E/Precision M, Lenovo T/W, Zepto Nox, and HP dv5t/Elitebook. The cheapest I've seen for a 4GB is from G.Skill for $170 at NewEgg, so $340 for 2x4GB sticks. Honestly though, if you are asking yourself whether you need more than 4GB, the answer is probably no you don't. :)
     
  24. R R Kirsteins

    R R Kirsteins Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi,

    I bought a gateway P7811 FX notebook with 4GB of DDR3 dual channel. Has 2 - 2GB sticks. It's a Centrino2 with the PM45 chipset. Gateway says 4GB is maximum but Intels advertising says their new PM45 notebook chipset supports up to 8GB of DDR 2 or 3. I'm running Ultimate x64 and open 10-20GB of TIFF pictures at once in Photoshop on my workstation and would like to do the same on my laptop. I'm also interested in 2 - 4GB sticks of DDR3 to give me 8GB's total RAM..............Raymond

    ****those not running x64 on a PM45 chipset need not reply. I feel sorry for all the advice you guys were given leading to 2 - 2GB sticks instead of 2 -4GB sticks. Some forum members need to keep their advice to themselves!
     
  25. Andy

    Andy Notebook Prophet

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    Well, actually I have seen a guy running 16GB on a PM45 notebook. (4 slots?) :p

    You can definitely try it out, but since Gateway says that 4GB is the limit, then probably the BIOS does not support more than 4GB or is locked to 4 Gig. Best to try out the modules from a retailer who accepts refunds/replacements.

    BTW, I am not sure about the availability of 204-pin 4GB DDR3-1066 Modules.
     
  26. K-TRON

    K-TRON Hi, I'm Jimmy Diesel ^_^

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    really Andy ;)
    I have 16gb of memory in my homemade server, the board can take 32gb, but I dont have any 2gb Pc3200 cards. All 16 slots are filled with a single 1gb card.
    If Gateway says their is a bios limit of 4gb, than almost 100% their is a limit at 4gb.

    for example, my e1505 has a i945pm chipset which according to Intel supports 4gb, but the Bios only recognizes 2Gb of memory, no matter what brand of 2 x 2gb memory it is.

    K-TRON
     
  27. Andy

    Andy Notebook Prophet

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    Yeah, I am looking hard for that link. Had to do a system restore to downgrade from FF 3.0.2 to 3.0.1 :(

    The 4 series datasheet doesn't state any limit on the no. of SODIMM connectors, but only states.
    (Must be a Modded MoBo or fake **** :D)

    Plus, I read in the NBR news bit, that the new QC Precisions support upto 16GB DDR2-800 :eek:
     
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    triggernometry Newbie

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