64GB SSD mini-PCIe? Any thoughts?

Does anyone know about this product? ( SUPER TALENT 64GB mini-PCI-e)

Surely it isn't a massively high speed device, but for an extra 64GB running on that mini-PCI-e slot that is currently barren. Any thoughts?


Thanks!

 

I've never seen anything like that, but it looks pretty cool!

 

I found an even faster mini PCIe ssd. (MyDigitalSSD 16GB SLC Mini PCI Express) 40MB read/28MB wirte.

I had the same question. Can I use this in any other laptop that has a mini PCIe connection?

 

jesse-

I would imagine you could, assuming there are drivers (if any are required)? Newegg has two brands, the SUPER TALENT I linked above (16/32/64GB) and another from Patriot. The other one states "Designed for ASUS EeePC 900, 900A, 901, 900 16G and 1000 only". That doesn't make a lot of sense. Maybe that's the only way they support it?

Also, 40/28 vs 40/15 isn't a huge difference. Especially when you are talking 16GB vs 64GB. I may as well have a LOT of slow storage

 

As a side note, these should be roughly the same speed as USB thumbdrive, as far as I can tell. I think most USB 2.0 thumbdrives run at about 30/15, maybe 40/15. I believe that NAND flash technology is the limiting factor rather than bus type, which is why PCIe wouldn't be any faster. Is this correct?

 

NAND is not the limiting factor. There are faster NAND chips available, these can be found in some SSDs.

 

I don't know anything about this either, but it is very intriguing.

 

If i remember right these can be used fine as a second drive however they are not bootable. I looked into buying one last year...

 

hm.. would fit nicely into my 2710p and solve most storage issues.. 32gb + 64gb == +- the 100gb i've had before.. i forgot about those, should look into one of these again

oh, actually thought they're about the pcmcia replacement.. they are actually really for the pcie.. hm.. do i have somewhere to fit one in in my notebook? have to re-check next time i have it around.

 

It looks like mini-PCIe SSDs are used in Dell Mini 9

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DELL-MINI-9-SSD-32gb-40-read-15-write-Solid-State-Drive_W0QQitemZ120327907453QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item120327907453&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318

 

read:
http://www.storagesearch.com/ssd-pcie.html

 

Very interesting link. Also, if NAND is not the limiting factor, why aren't the mini PCIe cards much faster? The bus certainly supports a greater speed.

 

I believe many manufacturers limit what cards you can use in the empty mini-pcie slots.
E.g.: I believe Lenovo does it.

 

How is it limited though? PCIe is a specific standard. Is it a voltage limit issue? I would imagine WLAN cards require more power than SSD.

 

No, it's just blacklisted hardware.

 

blacklisted how?

 

The manufacturer lists 10 cards in the Bios which can be used in the empty slot.
All other cards will not work because the Bios disables them.

 

Lenovo and HP have a whitelist in the BIOS on what can be used in slots designated for wireless cards. However, others may be open. In my T400, the WWAN card slot is unrestricted, so I have a second wireless card in it.

HP BIOSes are hackable, and some older Thinkpad BIOSes are hackable.

 

hm. I've noted that I have such a slot (for WWAN) in my hp 2710p. Anyone knows if that one is locked by chance?

I could use a little more space than 32gb in it..

 

Now that we have integrated Wireless, what is the use for the PMCIA or the mini PCIe slots these days?
If your ethernet port or your wireless card breaks yeah get an adapter. But I can't thing of any must have thing to shove in there except more storage haha.

 

well the external slots are still useful for.. hm.. tvcards or soundcards.

else, yes, storage mainly.

 

It is a huge diff it will make the computer litterally 2 times faster.

Matt

 

if that's your main system disk, yes..

 

Well, no... not actually. The vast majority of disk activity on a normal system is reads, not writes. Since the read speed is the same, with an 86% increase to write speeds, assuming that even 50% of disk activity is writing (which it is not) you gain roughly 43% speed bonus. However, that's a pretty generous number. Beware your statistics!

Not only will it not make it "literally" twice as fast... it won't even make it "figuratively" twice as fast

 

I have used many SSD drives and write speed is about 50 times more important the read speed there for it is now 50 times faster. hehe

But seriously unless the read speed is slow it will not make a diff. The write speed is most important. No one cares about read speeds if you see anything advertising high read speeds as the reason to buy then run away as fast as you can because it is probably junk.

Matt

 

actually, write speed doesn't matter as much as it can be done asynchroniously (means your os never has to lag or freeze because of it.. we KNOW it's not true in current os'.. see ocz ssd freezes).

read speed does matter because you _have_ to load data fast to show it fast. writing can be delayed.

it often isn't, today, which leads to utterly stupid freezes where there shouldn't be any.

 

QFT. While write speeds are a _concern_ in SSD tech, read speeds rule the roost in any data storage system.

 

Sorry anyone who bought these ST or MDSSD upgrades may not want to look.

check this out. 1st post

jkkmobile.blogspot.com

 

Dell's and Asus' mini-PCIe SSDs do not adhere to the standard pin setup.
so this probably won't work, even if you Bios allows the use of any mini-pcie card.

 

I have ask if this work for OCZ Notebook (AW M17) and answer is Yes!

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60201