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    850 evo msata 250 GB (MZ-M5E250BW) not detected by Magician 4.5

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by seeayesix, Mar 24, 2015.

  1. seeayesix

    seeayesix Newbie

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    I received a new SSD for my Clevo W230SS yesterday.

    I connected it to SATA0 port and everything worked out well, until I installed Samsung Magician 4.5 which does not realize that the SSD is a Samsung 850 Evo, even though it lists the full name of it. (My Crucial M500 120GB msata SSD is still the os disk)

    I assume, and hope, that Samsung needs to update the Magician software to discover the drive and that I haven't received a faulty unit.

    I've been in contact with Samsung support but have not yet had the time to call the foreign SSD support team (Swedish support guys are clueless)

    Has anyone else been able to get a 850 Evo msata device to be recognized by Magician?
     
  2. tilleroftheearth

    tilleroftheearth Wisdom listens quietly...

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    Is this a retail SSD unit or OEM? Have you updated the Magician software?

    Recommendation: don't install Magician if you don't need it. Don't run any of it's 'optimizations'.
     
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  3. seeayesix

    seeayesix Newbie

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    Retail, I have the latest version of Magician available according both to Samsungs website and the application itself.

    Why should I not be running Magician?
     
  4. pete962

    pete962 Notebook Evangelist

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    for example it messed up my computer settings, I don't remember details anymore, but I have custom settings for power, no hibernation etc. and that program gives you only 2 options: all or nothing and adds absolutely nothing new so you're better off to make your own detailed settings in Windows. Also I think some people complained about crashes and other stuff, which I didn't encounter but I run it only for few min to test speed of the drive and exit, maybe once a week force a trim.
    Could it be the drive is too new and the program wasn't updated for it yet?
    What happens when you choose your Samsung drive in the window on top, does it show info etc. or it just exits telling you no Samsung, no go?
    If you can copy files and open them your SSD is working and you should be able to test the speed of any drive on your system, does it work on yours?
     
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  5. seeayesix

    seeayesix Newbie

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    I have an 840 pro in my gaming rig, there's the occasional BSOD but I'm not sure Magician is the cause of this. I understodd that Magician really speeds things up firther, but the drive is really quick to begin with so maybe it isn't necessary.

    the changelog for 4.5 mentions specifically that it's been updated to be compatible with the 850 Evo drives, but I guess it's not compatible with the newly released mSata devices.
     
  6. seeayesix

    seeayesix Newbie

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    Yeah, it's listed in the system spec that only 840 Evo mSata is supported.
     
  7. alexhawker

    alexhawker Spent Gladiator

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    Why not just use the optimize drive tool in windows?


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  8. RCB

    RCB Notebook Deity

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    As long as your drive is functioning as expected, don't ever install and definitely don't run the magician optimization tools. There are SSD optimization recommendations that can be done manually and it is easy.
    When you hear there is a firmware update then run it from magician but that is it and let others try the firmware update first...
    or give the manufacturer time to pull it down in case it is bad.


    EDIT: to answer the question, does Samsung list this model as supported by magician? It may take an updated release to include it.
     
  9. pete962

    pete962 Notebook Evangelist

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    alexhawker Spent Gladiator

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    I meant specifically for forcing trim - see the part your post I specifically quoted?


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  11. pete962

    pete962 Notebook Evangelist

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    I copied image of Windows install from backup into msata using older backup software and I don't know enough about internal workings of Windows/trim if this unorthodox method preserve trim and it couldn't hurt anyway. Windows does strange things often and actually the reason I was reimaging Windows 7 on msata was because when I dual booted windows 8 from my HDD, it completely erased my msata drive ,complete Win 7 install included, but that's another story.
     
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    seiyafan Notebook Evangelist

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    Magician has something called over provisioning which I enabled, so is this useless too? I don't mind getting some space back.
     
  13. alexhawker

    alexhawker Spent Gladiator

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    Over provisioning is good, but can be done manually (without magician).


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    seiyafan Notebook Evangelist

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    That's interesting, through another program?
     
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    alexhawker Spent Gladiator

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    Windows disk management.


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