850 pro M.2 sataIII?

Anyone hear if they will put out a pro version of the new 850 Evo M.2?

 

Not yet.

 

They won't, Samsung is going down. They will only keep feeding us the TLC junk. I hope some other manufacturer like SanDisk would release a 1TB or even 2TB mSATA SSD based on MLC NAND. I doubt it though because mSATA never took off and will probably be obsolete soon. M2 is where things are going unfortunately

 

You do realize the pro version is an MLC drive and that Samsung has other new MLC drives too right? And why exactly is M.2 unfortunate? It's far better than mSATA because:

1. It uses the same PCI-E style connector like mSATA drives used which saves manufacturers money since the days of SATA SSDs are numbered. Samsung has already maxed out the SATA3 bandwidth with the new 850 series (both pro and evo), the only way to get faster drives is to go PCI-E.
2. Its far more customizable compared to mSATA so it can be used in multiple different form factors and devices.
3. Allows you to maximize the space on the card so you can fill it with far more modules than you could with mSATA.

Did you write off MLC when the first MLC drives came out? Because they had a lot of issues too, rather silly to write off an entire technology because 1 drive gave people issues.

And yet again stop basing TLC technology on one ****ing drive, the 840 evo. The 840 Evo doesn't have issues because it's a TLC drive, it has issues because Samsung combined a TLC drive with 19nm fabrication. ALL NAND FLASH DRIVES have the same issue in that sometimes its difficult to read data off the NAND chips (SLC, MLC, TLC drives all have the same issue just to varying degrees) the problem is the 840 Evo uses 19NM fabrication so the data is packed much closer together, then TLC means more data gets packed and since TLC drives are more voltage sensitive the issues compounds on itself. That caused the issue people saw with the 840 evo. And that's why with the 850 series Samsung went back to the 40nm manufacturing process to avoid that issue.

Back to the OPs question, you should see the 850 pros in the M.2 form factor soonish if I had to guess. Samsung already have multiple M.2 drives, the 850 Evo, the pm851, and the ridiculously fast SM951/PM951 (PCI-E only currently, but rated speeds are 2150 read and 1550 write). It only makes sense they would release a 850 Pro version in the same form factor.

 

^Are you always this snarky? M.2 and mSATA/mPCIe are different physical connectors. It's unfortunate for him because his laptop has only mSATA so future upgrades will be more and more limited for him.

 

I know M.2 and mSATA are different physical connectors I just worded it stupidly...But what I meant to say was that they both use the same design philosophy. mSATA and mPCI-E share the same connector. M.2 SATA and M.2 PCI-E share the same connector. The end goal is the same thing, saves manufacturing costs for the manufacturer.

And why should I care (or anybody else) care about how unfortunate its for him? The OP asked for when M.2 drives will be released, not when mSATA will be released so I don't see the point in his post about wishing manufacturers would release mSATA. M.2 is clearly the better technology and that's all I was pointing out...so sorry while it's unfortunate for him, it's fortunate for everyone else.

I believe (though I've never tested one) that M.2 to mSATA adapters exist and so he can still continue to use M.2 drives.

 

You didn't get me, what I meant was they will keep feeding us TLC junk is why on earth aren't they releasing MLC based mSATA SSDs!