8800 card for Notebooks?

I am anxious to purchase a notebook but I dont want to buy an obsolete product. I was looking at a Clevo 570 or 900 with 9750gtx, but I was alerted to the new 8800 nvida card and how it is the next wave in video card architecture.

My question is this - does anyone have insight on when a notebook version will be available. What Notebook mfg will have it.

And - if you think it is worth the wait.

 

Sorry G80-class (nVidia 8800) videocard will not be coming to notebooks for a while... probably Q3 2007. The heat and power requirements is why that it wont be going to be on notebooks.

The Clevo M570U is a beast and the best 17" gaming notebook on the market, it its going to be a long while before it gets obsolete. It also has a modular videocard which can get upgraded easily.

There is speculation that nVidia might be releasing a DX10 hybrid mobile videocard using the 7900/7950 GTX technology. That might come as soon as late Q1 2007... but I would not hold my breath... especially the cost/performance ratio for a new card that is not a new architecture.

You can be sure of one thing. Clevo will more than likely be the first figure out how to stick in the high-end DX10 videocards... they have the best notebook engineers.

I have the first dual-core notebook on the market... Clevo of course. And I got a 7800 GTX, its still runs all games at full native WUXGA (1920x1200) resolution with High Settings... I am currently thinking about upgrading it to 7950 GTX... but not sure if its worth it just yet... maybe until a DX10 card is available I guess.

Game On People,
-Gophn

 

As Gophn has said, G80 won't be available in notebooks for some time. The reason is the power requirement of the core is far too much, and nVidia will take time to design or modify the current core so that it can support a lower TDP. As a result of this, the performance of the card will be dramtically reduced. The 384-bit memory bus, will probably be scalled down to the "regular" 256-bit bus width. If nVidia don't do this, then the card will end up being quite large, and will not stick to current size limits. Core and memory clocks won't be anywhere near as much as the desktop version. They will be clocked lower, to reduce power consumption, and it will probaby have something like 64 stream processers (128 on the desktop card). A die shrink on the core will probably take place aswell. It should result in a 65 nm or 80 nm core.

ATI also has plans for some high end graphics card for the mobile market, however, they will have to take steps similar to nVidia. There is speculation that they will use a 512-but memory bus on the desktop market, so they will also have to revert to a 256-bit bus in the mobile market. We will just have to see what both companies come up with.

The Clevo 570U is no doubt one of the best gaming notebooks. They will most likely introduce the new DX10 cards, when they are released. It is a very powerful notebooks, and it will last a long time, eve after DX10 graphics cards are introduced.

 

Thanks Gophn and Zero,

My paranoia on buying the latest and greatest which many times just turns out to be - just plain late - is my overiding concern.

On earlier threads I want to thank you for your input that led me to the Clevo. I am talking with Eurocomm right now about different confiqurations.

I tried AVA Direct but they didnt have a full Clevo lineup based on my dicussions with them and Flawless's mailbox was full! A cardinal sin in this business. Being a company owner, I'd be pulling my hair out about now.

 

Considering the Clevo notebooks you're considering, I'd say you are quite safe from being obsolete for a while.

As mentioned, mobile DX 10 cards are a ways off and likely won't be around till at least the second half of '07. Even so, DX 10 adoption by the gaming community will not be instantaneous. So as long as there are a number of DX9 card owners out there--gaming companies will be avoiding DX 10-exclusive titles like the plague (well, Microsoft games may be the exception to push their new format).

 

If you are in the US, you should definitely call up Flawless or other US resellers.

Eurocom is a great option to purchase from... mainly when you are located in Canada or near Ontario.

Read the Clevo Guide to see many resellers.

 

I Agree with Gophn.
Flawlesscomputers.com definetly can be a very good choice. At least it was for me.
You can begin to look over theyr website, try your configuration and get the price. For every needs you can talk directly with Brian (Flawless owner) for any inquires and i am definetly sure he will meet your requests.

Happy New year! And yes Clevo, specially the M570U is a good choice

 

yes, we have lots of insight on it, if you would only use the search...

Gophn pretty much beat everyone to it, his info is correct.

hey, you should call flawless, if their e-mail is full

 

haha...the notebook would probably melt...that is of course if it can even last long enough power wise to fully melt.

 

^ or explode

 

Nah.. the notebook wont explode, but i believe the power supply will...

 

Wow a 9750GTX! I'm sure you meant to type 7950GTX.

But as for waiting, I'd say get something now. By the time DX10 becomes a must have, and games actually start using DX10, it will be a couple years from now... The 8800 series is not even that much faster than the 7900's...

 

I would wait till the Intel Santa Rosa platform is finalised and released and until nVidia hit the mobile market will their new architecture. Do remember that just a single, Desktop 8800, requires a Dual Slot Cooling System, so It will generate a lot of heat In a Notebook. If you really want a DX 10 card , and you will buy and upgrade, you've not only the problem of a possibly un sufficient cooling system, but your PSU may not be adaquate for safe, continued usage. It is a big leap in Graphics Market. The last architecture being almost 6 years ago.

 

whatever happens (just looking at the power and heat problems present), the notebook version will undoubtedly be much less powerful than its desktop counterpart; just like the current nVidia Go GeForce 7 series verses the desktop GeForce 7 series.