8GB DDR3 So-dimm module available when?

Hello guys,

does anyone know when 8GB SO-DIMM modules will be available for notebooks ? (16GB for two slot notebooks)

Any ideas appreciated. Best regards

 

dunno....

But the availability of a memory dimm and the ability of a chipset **and** the machine BIOS to accept it are two different things.

 

I can't see it's happening anytime soon, as no software can even make use of the 8GB (on a notebook) at the moment.

 

When they see a market for $600 individual DIMM's.

 

LOL, you're such a card. Hmm, if they build will they come?

Well it is the current limit for a notebook. But actually, I believe After Effects will make good use of every bit of those GB. Provided you have that kind of talent, that is?

 

Max, that is a very narrow outlook, perhaps based on inexperience......

 

Even 4GB DDR3 SODIMMs are ridiculously expensive at the moment - there's definitely not enough demand for 8GB DDR3 modules to justify production of them, and there likely won't be any time soon.

Although as programs begin utilizing more RAM and RAM modules decrease in price, I can imagine that we'd see more higher-end notebooks with 4 RAM slots, such as the Envy 15 and Precision M6400. That could potentially allow for 8GB+ RAM, which I would venture to say is more than enough memory for pretty much any user.

 

Add the Lenovo W510 to that list. I'm currently trying to decide between a 4 X 2gb config or 2 X 2 plus 2 X 4gb. Decisions, decisions

 

To add on that the 4gb modules they sell now in the 2 x4GB kits are practically plastered all of the way around in memory chips. You will not see a single 8gb memory card until memory density doubles. This could take quite some time.

Why would you want 16gb of memory in your laptop anyways.
I have trouble using more than 7gb on windows xp x-64 and I have 32gb in my system.

K-TRON

 

Virtual Machine(s)... AutoDesk tools, video editing, etc

some or all of the above will quickly eat up ram. The Dell M6500 is one laptop, and there are a few others that MidNightSun mentioned, that offer 4 slots for 16GB total of ram. Albeit, in 4GB modules. Many desktops are available with 16GB or more in RAM.

I agree, 8GB modules won't happen for awhile but I'm always amazed at how quickly advancements in technology occur. They could always create a new standard and increase the number of pins and module size to accommodate more memory chips. *those wouldn't fit in todays laptops of course.

 

Sodimms already have up to 16 memory chips on them, just the same as desktop. They already have chips of 8Gb or 1GB each by stuffing multiple pieces of silicon into each chip. While feasible, at the price they would sell at there would be no takers.

 

Get your facts in order please.

3d Studio Max, Lightwave, Maya, AfterEffects, Photoshop, and a ton of other programs I won't even begin to go into can easily eat up 4 and 8 GB of RAM ... all of which can be (and are being) used on notebooks (I myself use 3ds Max).

The 'average user' may not see real benefit right now switching from 4 to 8 GB given the fact the applications such a person utilizes do not really have large RAM requirements ... but some other people like myself would like the extra RAM due to the software we use.

Additionally, the 'average user' habits will change, and so will their RAM consumption most likely.

 

Well, It seems Samsung is about to ramp 4GB NAND chips... so 8 GB SO-DIMM's might not be TOO far off. It's amazing how fast this changes. Story here.

 

well it still will take a year or 2 and the prices would be very high... maybe a 8GB module will cost as much an SSD does now...when i mean SSD , i Mean a high end 160GB SSD like Intel G2 which is $500...

 

Huh?

Plenty of software can make use of a lot more than that, doesn't matter if we'rer talking notebook or desktop.

No, it's not. I have 16gigs in my M6400.

Why would anyone not want 16GB?

Seriously, there are those of us who use their computers for more than browsing the web and playing games. Enough said.

 

I stand corrected. I guess I should not have taken for granted no one would include those rare special application notebooks.

Well if I were persnickety, I'd say cost? Sixteen gigs of DDR3 (at any level) can set you back quite a pretty penny.

 

Jeezeeeee, I did say on a notebook!!! Why would you want to do professional movie editing and 3D modellings on a notebook???? The amount of money you buy 1 pair of 16GB ram, wouldn't it be a lot cheaper, faster and easier to buy a dedicated desktop!!!

Also I did say I can't see more than 8GB sodimm happening soon on a notebook, but I didn't say it will never happen... Who knows, probably in the future, the whole OS will be loaded into RAM upon system startup... and that would make a great use of extra ram

 

Why put such software on a notebook?

Let's see ... if one is moving from one place to another frequently (and a lot of us do), a desktop is not really a suitable option.
Notebooks are also very suitable for such programs (depends on what type of work you do ... and most of it will fall within the range of our notebooks capabilities).

It also comes down to personal preference.
Some people will prefer notebooks, and others will prefer desktops.

Saying that 16GB RAM will cost an arm and a leg is not entirely accurate.
For one thing, it depends on how much ram modules can be fitted inside a laptop (there are numerous ones that come with more than just 2 slots today), and RAM prices drop off.

Besides, with an increase in use of x64 OS-es, the amount of standardized RAM inside a laptop will quite possibly/likely increase.

 

Without a doubt it will. But it's still going to be expensive Jeeves.

 

Ye, one day it will, but I would rather see price of ssd come down to a more reasonable level and battery life improvements first...

 

Same here... 4-8GB is more than enough for me for now..

 

Same reason you'd want to do anything else on a notebook: They're portable and more convenient.

Incidentally, there are many editing notebooks (know as workstations) from the
major manufacturers.

 

So, Eurocomm seems to indicate that 8GB sodimm module is coming in July 2010. Have you guys heard anything else about this?

 

EUrocom can fit their d900f with 3x8=24gb ram. But IT DOES cost and arm and a leg, and maybe a kidney.

 

it is nonsence.. so far i haven't seen anyone get 24GB...another load of nonsence from eurocom.

 

If it's there, maybe they can provide.
The fact that nobody bought it it's another matter alltogther.

 

I've seen more than one retailer advertised 8GB sodimm module. Both mention ETA July. It'll come.

But you're right, you need to give up your first born for each.

 

no thanks lol... i'll will be happy with 16GB in 4 slots in G73

 

+1 to both replies.

I began to struggle with 8GB on my T61p lately and I'm looking forward to a four RAM slots laptop upgrade.
My OS hits the RAM limit with just two VMs fired up and some office software/browsers running on the host OS which is somewhat annoying.

T61p became my one and only workstation about year and a half ago due to extreme convenience of using one PC instead of Desktop+Laptop+neverending synchronizations.

God bless sufficient RAM.

 

Dell M6500 with 32GB of RAM.
Another First ? Dell Precision M6500 17? Mobile Workstation Now Available with 32GB - Inside Enterprise IT - Enterprise - Dell Community

 

ETA July, meaning August maybe...

 

I use ramdisks. there isn't such a thing as "not needed" in technology. There's always demand for more.
it reminds me bill gates... "640kb will be enough for ever" or something.
same with 8gb ram modules.

 

Who care's about 8 gig dimm's, I want da 16GB dimm's.

 

Samsung is supposed to source them to Dell for the Precision line first, then general availability will follow soon after. They should be available to Dell before the end of the year. The price of said upgrade would probably send normal people into shock though.

 

Dell has been shipping them for a couple of weeks. A Dell representative over in the Dell Precision forums has said they have shipped Precision 6500s with 32GB memory to a number of customers.

P.S.: The upgrade to 32GB of RAM is roughly $10,000 for those machines.

 

Nice! And OUCH! $10K for RAM... Not for mua!

 

While I agree with your point, Bill Gates denies saying that, and nobody has ever been able to give a time or place for when he said it. Even more importantly the context on the conversation is uncertain, if it even existed.

I look forward to 8GB modules coming down in price, I don't think I'll be harvesting my organs to afford them at their debut.

 

why people need that kind of RAM

you're not running a server on a laptop don't you?

 

Don't need to run a server to use that kind of RAM.

When I'm creating panorama's and using (only) my 8GB RAM instead of the RAM + the (slow) scratch disk, the creation time is sped up by a factor of 8 or more times.

How do I control how much RAM/Scratch disk I use? By carefully controlling the number of RAW images I use to make those panoramas.

So, if I was doing landscapes exclusively - I would be a prime candidate for the 32GB Dell Precision systems right now. And the $10,000 premium would be paid for in less than a 3 months with my anticipated (full time) use of such a machine.

 

ouch.. i could buy a few servers for that price..

 

This was my reaction to that price:

 

In time all things come to reasonable pricing. Folks must remember when the scorching first 4gb modules came out. Those prices were just as insane. And look now...

 

It's interesting you say that no software can make use of 8GB even on a notebook. I have a MacBook Pro (2.66 GHz Core i7) with 8GB, and even your 2009 MacBook Pro can also support 8GB. Believe me, if you have 8GB in your MacBook Pro, Mac OS X will be happy to use all of it.

Just run VMWare Fusion, or Safari for a few hours with a bunch of Flash videos, or simply run Rosetta@home (or some other high memory BOINC client). I'm running rosetta@home on my iMac and all 8 (logical) cores are running at 100% for 8 separate BOINC clients taking nearly 500MB each for a mere 4GB. Then run Windows in a VM and use Safari for a few hours and watch it use 2GB. I've actually filled 16GB on my iMac, though I hate to see a single "page out".

It's important to note that the more memory you have, the more Mac OS X will use, to increase performance. My Wired memory hits nearly 1GB on startup just because it knows it has another 15GB to play with. Also, unused memory is "wasted" memory. (it is nice to know you have free memory to use, but its still wasted till you use it)

I would love to 4x8GB DDR3 in my iMac to give it 32 GB. And yes, I may actually have a small difficulty to use all of that, especially since VMWare will only let me allocate 8GB for Windows 7 x64. I could run multiple Virtual Machines, but that's just ridiculous, unless I give each VM only 4 cores to play with (instead of 8). Then that would knock out about 18GB and then I could fill the other 14 GB with Photoshop. Every process is 64-bit anyway, and even if I use the default 32-bit kernel (Snow Leopard), I can still use 32GB!

(Though, if you want to use 64GB in a MacPro, I think you need to boot into 64-bit kernel mode. I'm not quite sure why, but 32-bit kernel doesn't really like managing more than 32GB, even though 36-bit PAE is good for 64GB unless that's (36-1 = 35) - bit useful PAE? I'm not even sure PAE even matters in this case. I usually hear about the messy PAE with Windows systems)

 

Well, the DDR3 spec does allow up to 16GB DIMMs. Hynix actually had that in August 2008. But today, you can buy ordinary 16GB DIMMs. They do still cost about $600 and up. But later this year (2011), that could fall to $200, and well that's about the price of 4x4GB (16GB total) DDR3 SO-DIMMs today!

However, 8GB and 16GB SO-DIMMs, I haven't seen yet. Probably sometime this year (2011).

 

We've had (OEM only) 8 GB SODIMMs for something like half a year now, but at an extreme markup ($8,594 to 32 GB from 4 GB for a Dell M6500, $8,675 to 32 GB from 2 GB for a HP 8740w). So that's over $2000 per stick, available only from OEMs at this point.

 

That's fantastic! 8GB SO-DIMMs (not DIMMs), I'm not concerned about he price at the moment. I'm not about to purchase them now, but I'm just glad to hear they exist already, and for 6 months already! Do you have a link where I can read about it? I couldn't find anything about them, and Google is getting pretty impressive lately.

 

Samsung starts mass production of 8GB DDR3 SoDIMMs | TechConnect Magazine

Samsung Aggressively Pushing 8GB Notebook Modules | Maximum PC

 

do a search on shopping.google like: 8gb sodimm -4gb -2x4gb -"4 gb" -4gbx2 -ddr2 -kit

I found one stick at $300 per stick: ESSENTIALS 996647 DDR3 SODIMM PC3-10666 SODIMM 9-9-9-24 1.5V NONE 204p 8GB

which is nowhere near the $1000+ markup people are talking about from manufacturers

 

8GB isn't sold to end users except to ODMs. The Mushkin is a 8GB kit (2x4GB).

 

Visual Studio 2008 would sure as hell benefit from it lol 4GB is barely enough for it... it uses almost 3GB all on its own.