8GB for me? Dell xps 1530 owner

I'm interested in jacking my dell 2.6GHz EMT64 1530 xps to 8GIG of ram. If I upgrade to vista 64 or xp 64 will this be a viable option?

 

No. Not feasible, doubtful it's possible due to motherboard/BIOS limitations.

Next time you feel like wasting money, wire it to me.

 

Correct me If I'm wrong, but I thought Vista only capable of handling 4 gb ram?

 

you are wrong.... the 32 bit versions handle 4gb
the 64bit version can handle more
but for 8gb i'd rahter have that memory in a desktop

 

M1530 motherboard can only accept 4096MB. I guess you're out of luck.

 

In this case it's not about what Vista can handle but rather the laptop. The M1530 can only handle up 4 GB If I remember right (For that matter I think all laptop are that at the moment.) But unless your using a 64 bit OS ~3 GB is the max it can use anyway make even 4 GB mostly pointless, thus 8 GB is insane. Who actually NEEDS that much?

 

Seeing as how laptops have at most 2 slots for ram, and ram sticks come at most in 2 gigs, you currently can not have more than 4 gigs physically installed on a laptop. If they come up with 4 gig sticks, and your laptop manufacturer releases a bios that supports 4 gig sticks, then why not.

 

you can customize lenovo desktops with 8gb ram

 

Desktops are one thing, they have 4 slots and their motherboards support 4GB+. But laptop motherboards top out at 4GB period right now...mobile chipset limitation, not just a 2 slot limitation.

 

I dunno how many times this has been said but 32bit can only utilize around 3gb. It will NEVER be able to utilize all 4gb or more

Yes 8gb or more will work on a 64bit OS too bad your BIOS/Chipset wont even recognize it.

 

This is a sad day my friends I just wanted to say goodbye to Vista eating tons of my ram and shove more than it could handle down its own throat.

 

Vista won! As it can handle I think 128GB, talk to the MoBo makers.

 

Even if your mobo could support 8GB, you wouldn't notice a difference with 4GB using Vista. There are probably only a handful of programs that would benefit too.

 

my goal was to turn off my HDs virtual memory this would speed up my system, cool down my hd and use it less thus more idle time and battery power. But no Mobo manufacturers are to greedy. I would need about 8GB or physical memory inorder to do so I think

 

You only need 4GB. You can turn off the page file without any problems. Since you have the money, get an SSD instead. All problems solved.

 

The Dell PrecisionTM M6300 laptop officially supports 8 GB Ram; don't know whether the 1530s BIOS is hamstrung, would be worth a try (dont know whether a supplier will allow you to return 2x4GB sticks worth $800+ if it doesnt work ...)

Concerning usage, I for one certainly would love to have a quad cpu and 8 gb ram - I run oracle, application server, web server, ide, and various other tools at the same time.

Using 64 bit java I should be able to run a jvm in more than the ca 1.5 GB limitation on a 32 bit system - would allow me to design systems with many more cached instances - or run multiple jvms on my laptop - these apps would rock in performance!

 

Intel's Montevina Chipset will support 4GB+ of RAM.

 

32bit can't use 4gb

 

Apparently there is an update for GM965 chipset.

Mobile Intel® 965 Express Chipset Family Specification Update

 

Hmm, the table in the spec contains new supported configurations, but none that supports 8 GB; only one config supports 4 GB. Anybody here knows how this works in the Dell M6300 ?

 

I second that SSD notion! Definitely would be better than 8GB memory.

 

Is there a notebook that has more than two slots and do they make a 4gb RAM stick?

 

not that i know. I havent seen 4gb modules on retail either

 

There are 4 GB sticks, search for "8 GB 2x4 RAM"; e.g.

http://reviews.cnet.com/ram-random-access-memory/kingston-valueram-memory-8/4505-3046_7-32171814.html

 

first, that is ridiculously expensive. a 2GB stick of ram can be had for less than $40. i upgraded to 4 GB from 2 for about $30 (after i sold my 2 GB of ram)...

You will over $1000 for twice the ram that I paid about $30 for? This does not seem economically viable.

Secondly, that memory seems like it is for desktops... could be wrong, but i wouldn't be surprised at all.

 

HP Compaq 8710w Mobile Workstation Overview

After Bios update for our current notebooks, it seems that we will be able to install 8gb!

 

The ram that cyberanto linked you to, is not notebook memory, it is Fb-DIMM Server memory. FB-Dimms are ridiculously expensive.
Plus 4gb sodimm modules have not even been released yet, so dont go pull off the screen before the rabbit is ready.

K-TRON

 

Sorry but i dont think you know what you are talking about.

"I would say they are not widely available."


PLUS, you can configure hp 8710w with 8gb!!!

 

Isnt 240pin for a desktop? Notebooks are 200pin if i remember correctly

 

Like others have said Vista/XP with 4GB (or more) is useless. And don't say "Vista SP1, fixes it". Because it doesn't. 32bit OS. 3.2GB of ram.

 

Okay, The Magnificent Turk, youre definitely right, cause that is desktop memory.
We are talking about a dell xps 1530, which is a notebook.
Dnt tell me I dont know what I'm talking about. You seem to confuse sdram and sodimm in most of your posts.
Laptop use sodimm memory, not 240pin desktop sdram cards.

Good night,

K-TRON

 

Didnt realize it was 240 pin. It is listed under 'notebooks section'. Blame the site owners.
Sorry for that.

Anyway,
You can buy a
8510p, 8510w or 8710w
with 8 gb ram which is

 

Guys...cool it .

 

thanks greg ...

no reason to get personal on these things - sorry my link was to the wrong kind of memory, still trying to find the correct one ... in the meanwhile:

Description

Dell Precision M6300 (64bit)
Date & Time: April 15,2008 11:17 PM CST

SYSTEM COMPONENTS
Dell Precision M6300 (64bit) Qty 1
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo X9000 (2.80GHz) 6M L2 Cache, 800MHz Dual Core, Genuine Windows Vista® Ultimate 64-bit, with Media Unit Price $7,556.00
Catalog Number: 5 MLB1035
Module Description Show Details
Dell Precision M6300 Intel® Core™ 2 Duo X9000 (2.80GHz) 6M L2 Cache, 800MHz Dual Core
Operating System Genuine Windows Vista® Ultimate 64-bit, with Media
LCD Panel Options 17 inch Wide Screen WUXGA TrueLife LCD Panel
Memory 8.0GB, DDR2-667 SDRAM, 2 DIMMS
Internal Keyboard Internal English Keyboard
Graphics NVIDIA Quadro ® FX 3600M 512MB
Hard Drive 64GB Dell Flash Ultra Performance SSD, 2.5MM
Touchpad Options Standard Touchpad
Bluetooth Dell Wireless® 360 Bluetooth Module for Vista
AC Adapter 130W A/C Adapter
CD ROM/DVD ROM Blu-ray Disc™ w Roxio and Cyberlink PDVD™ (Windows Vista Only)
Wireless LAN (802.11) Intel® 4965 802.11a/g/n Dual-Band Mini Card
System Documentation Quick Reference Guide
Batteries 9 Cell Primary Battery
Hardware Support Services 3 Year ProSupport for End Users and 3 Year NBD Onsite Service
Installation Services No Onsite System Setup
CompleteCare Accidental Damage Service 3 Year CompleteCare Accidental Damage Protection
Security Software Norton Internet Security™ 2008 36 Month Subscription
Additional Power Cords / AC Adapters 130 Watt Additional AC Adapter with Power Cord
Processor Branding Intel Core 2 Duo Processor
OS Labels Windows Vista® Premium

TOTAL:$7,556.00

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

God, for that price...

Get a darn desktop with twice the power for $4000-5000, and get a smaller laptop to carry around for like $2000.

 

I second Greg's suggestion.
I, on the other hand, would put that 7.5K as down payment for a good car..

 

Yes, $7556 is way too expensive. That Dell cost $320 more than my Voodoo, well that is before I put a $1400 paint job on it

Literally, I dont see a need for 8gb of memory.

The reason you guys cant find the 4gb sodimm memory cards is because they are generic brand, aka Hynix, or Samsung. The big manufacturers such as corsair, ocz, kingston and such are probably not going to be manufacturing them for another year or so, until their is a large enough demand for 8gb of memory in laptops.
You all remember how a 2Gb sodimm card was like $150-200 when it was released 2 yrs ago, now its like $30. The demand for more memory increased, and thus prices drop.

Anyhou, I third what Greg mentioned. Get a desktop and a laptop if your willing to dish out that much. I for one have run down that path and spent a fortune on my notebook, I do not regret it, but I could have had a decent notebook and an awesome desktop for the price of my Voodoo.

K-TRON

 

Would like a better explanation on that one? Are those who assemble above those who manufacture the core component? Any hey here is a link to what I posted a few months ago when I felt like gathering data, have giving up since then. But your comment misses the point or I miss the point? So any input would be appreciated, here is the link.

 

For what it's worth, I too would be interested to know if currently available laptops (at least the Penryn ones) would be able to handle 8GB RAM down the road when the memory becomes available and more affordable.

It would be of use to me, I am looking for a laptop that I will need for running large portions of Oracle's software stack and while I know I'll have to make do with 4GB today, it would be nice to have the option for 8GB down the road.

As an aside, how does memory capacity relate to power consumption? I assume more = more, but how significant is this versus display, hard drive, chipset, etc? Will 8GB in current gen laptops suck the battery life out of them?

 

For $400-$500, you can now buy 8GB SODIMM from Kingston, KTH-ZD8000B/4G. These are supplied to HP for their 8510w/8710w models and are in production and general supply. However, prices are expected to drop once they become mainstream.

 

I think the main point to be made regardless of cost or availability of a 4gb so-dimm is that there is pretty much no way to even use all that ram. You would be hard pressed to ever use all 4gb in a 4gb install unless you run something specific to purposely use it all like a big ram preview in a video editor. No game or general program is going to use it all.

 

i dont think 4gb sodimms will become mainstream since DDR3 is about to come out

 

I've too been wondering the use of 8 GB of RAM, and these posts seem to be showing up more and more.

I've said this a million times, but in this article:

http://www.intel.com/business/casestudies/proof_of_concepts_dcs.pdf

Intel says that "The Mobile Intel® 965 Express Chipset Family supports a main memory
size up to 8GB."

BUT laters states that "36-Bit FSB enables full 4GB memory addressability and capability to scale up to 8GB memory (pending SODIMM module validation)"

So it SEEMS like they're saying that the 965 express chipset supports 8 GB of RAM, but laters says that it supports 4 GB ADDRESSABILITY, but the capability to "SCALE" up to 8 GB.

So what would that mean exactly? It wouldn't SEEM like the 965 chipset would support 8 GB, but some laptops do offer it as an option to upgrade to (for a HUGE price tag of course!), I'm starting to think that the 965 does support 8 GB memory

 

The 965 chipset does support 8 GB memory.. However, mobo manufacturers could theoretically limit the amount of memory which can be addressed. The question here is do all dell mobos support 8GB? The Precision ones do, that is confirmed. But until we have someone actually install 2x4GB SO-DIMMs in a 1330/1530, we can't really be sure, can we?

 

that was a question i had sess...say i order a laptop from a manufacturer like HP..and i get the latest processor from Intel that supports 8gb+ of ram, will the mobo be able to support it?...who makes the mobo, HP or Intel?

 

Bump...Anyone Knows?

 

http://pubforum.info/welcome/BLOG/tabid/78/EntryID/8/Default.aspx

 

I would just stick with 4gb. It seems memory is outpacing usability now. I might have missed it but did you already say what you are using the laptop for?

 

First of all, for what reason in the world could you possibly need 8 gigabytes of memory for on a 1530?

Dell has a few, made for their laptops but I'm sure they work anywhere else. G.Skill sells the cheapest 4GB modules as far as I know, for $170 I believe.

I think the Dell Precision M6400 has 4 slots for RAM, supporting up to 16GB of it.

I'm building a Core i7 build, and I'm getting around 3-4 times the power under $2000, with a beautiful 24" 2407WFP-HC LCD. For 4000-5000, I can probably hit 6-8 times the power of a laptop, to the point where the difference is humanly unnoticable lol.

 

for 4-5k, get an i7 desktop and a 30'' monitor, and maybe a 2nd hand car lol.