A Public Experiment. Which will you choose?

So i am doing this experiment to see if people choose products of brand or quality. just tell me in the comments which you think is better A or B. if you know what the brand is please dont spoil it and tell everyone. thanks

A​

• Windows 8
• Blu Ray & DVD +/- & CD Player
• SD Card Reader
• Webcam
• Bluetooth
• WIFI
• 3GB Graphics Memory
• NVIDIA GeForce GTX670MX
• 1.5 TB HDD
• 16 GB RAM
• 17.3 Inch Screen
• 1 HDMI Ports
• 1920 x 1080 Screen Resolution
• 8 Cell Battery
• 4 USB 3.0 Ports

B​

• Windows 8
• Blu Ray & DVD +/- & CD Player
• Media Card Reader
• Webcam
• Bluetooth
• WIFI
• 2GB Graphics Memory
• AMD Radeon HD 7970M
• 1 TB HDD
• 16 GB RAM
• 17.3 Inch Screen
• 1 HDMI Ports
• 1920 x 1080 Screen Resolution
• 9 Cell Battery
• 32GB SSD (Solid State Drive)
• 4 USB 3.0 Ports

your comment will be well appreciated

-legend:laugh:

Edit: everyone wants to know the price so A is 2700 and B is 3000

 

I would select B based on the video card and SSD; all other specs being similar, at a similar price.
But depending on Brand I could be presuaded to choose A (for instance if B was an ASUS I would not select it due to personal experience)

 

Why not make it a poll? It's a pretty ambiguous question too. Only differences are GPU - 670mx vs 7970m, 8 cell vs 9 cell battery, and one has a smart cache drive (big deal, make them both have useable size SSD's - 256GB or larger or go home )

Without price it's hard to say. If you're in same chassis just different components at same price I'd pick B as long as it doesn't have Enduro. If they're different brands it does matter because of warranty, customer support, build quality, etc. 670mx can't hold a candle to 7970m in performance, but if the price difference is $200 then it'd depend on if you're on a tight budget or not.

 

Sorry, i should have made it a poll. But even though B has better gpu and battery, will the extra gigabyte in the graphics card do anything?

 

Without price its pointless.

If the lesser system cost 1/2 the price its by far the better value.

Brand is not the most important thing but there are some aspects associated with brand like general build quality, customer service, and warranty.

Most of these can be circumvented though via a reseller, and extended warranties.

So what it always comes down to for me is price vs performance aka value.

 

I took the liberty to fix the OP:

 

Without Windows 8 x64 Pro... I would choose none of the above.

 

Without a CPU spec, I will not choose, anything that has an AMD CPU is a bust for me. I have work that requires a faster CPU and play at least one game that is a CPU hog. Given equal quad core CPUs, I would look at the build quality and price then make my decision.

 

I've added a poll to your thread.

 

Definitely need you to put a price on both of those laptops. Without a price, pretty much everyone would choose B based on parts, but that tells you nothing as far as "brand vs parts" goes.

 

Option B. :thumbsup:

J.Dre

 

I chose A for CUDA support. I assume you'll be doing GPGPU programming on this machine, right?

 

I added a price. and think of it as both having the same customer service and also think of the machine being used for average purposes such as gaming, 3d work and other high performance work. I mentioned that 1 has a higher graphics card, is this enough to seal the deal for anyone

 

Given the price difference and the only important specs difference being the difference in graphics performance, I'd say another factor that's extremely important is what chassis each of these are in. Some laptops are just much better built/designed than others, and that's a crucial value to me.

 

Nearly $3000 for a laptop? Are you putting in -XM CPUs or something as well (you don't list CPU options)? For those prices, I wouldn't buy either .

Agreed with the above too; build quality is also a factor here.

 

Hypothetically consider them both being being the same build quality. don't consider the price too much, just vote what you think is better. thanks

 

I'll ask again, equivalent CPUs or do they have different CPUs and if so, which ones, you won't get my vote until I know that.

 

Yep, CPUs are unknown...

But build quality does in fact matter. There's no use of a laptop with powerful internal hardware if it's encased by a hypothetical wet paper bag, for example. All plastic, poor engineering? All plastic, decent engineering? Metal alloy case? A pure metal case? Plastic with a metal alloy roll cage to protect the internal hardware? The building material of the frame and how it's assembled do in fact matter, and I simply can't just dismiss that point entirely.

 

They are both Intel I7 Consider them both the same build quality as a Alienware M17x

 

Dual-core i7...? Entry-level quad-core i7? Mid-range or XM quad-core i7? Your prices are suggesting that they're either 1) XM i7 chips, or 2) you're about to be ripped off with whatever option you choose.

Soo... metal cases? I'm thinking that the information provided thus far would be enough to make a choice, but I'm picky about build quality, and as far as I see it, that pretty much means that I'll end up asking what the laptop models are, defeating the purpose of this poll. For the $2700-$3000 range, I'm guess we're probably looking at either Alienware or top-end Clevo/Compal/MSi models (all four of those are good build quality for a consumer-class laptop).

 

Well, if you're saying to assume they're in essentially the same case and that they have the same CPU, the question then becomes whether additional graphics performance is worth $300 to you. That simple, really. But the prices are... quite high.

 

They are in Australian dollars by the way. Why are there so many people sending hate mail. I am sorry if this post offended so many people. I am new to computers so I am still learning.
The two computers were asus g75 vx and the alienware m17x. And no I am not planning on buying any of them. I just wanted to see the results, but since so many people are offended or what not I don't want to continue with this.
Legend

 

I don't think people are offended, I think they are upset that they don't have all the necessary information to pick one and think you are ignorant instead of new.

Anyways, I would of picked b. Mostly because it reminds me of my M17x. Guess I was right.

Sent from my SGH-T999

 

The problem is there wasn't enough information, reason for buying, etc If you have specific questions about components that's fine, but being secretive about it all doesn't help anyone. There's a million and one reasons that people want to buy a PC. Extra vRAM for the most part doesn't help anything by the way. Higher end GPU's do fine with 1GB or 1.5GB vRAM, 2GB to 3GB is overkill completely. Most desktop GTX 670/680's come with only 2GB vRAM. It isn't until you reach super high resolutions like 2560x1440 that it starts to become an issue. And then the CPU processing power becomes the bottleneck. At 1080p though, 1.5GB is most you really need.

 

This.

OP, the only person offended was you. You would have gotten better feedback if you had given more information in your original post. I suppose it doesn't really matter in the end, though, as you're not interested in purchasing either laptop. Just curious, why make the thread then?

 

I think LL just elimiated brand bias; and may have done this unintenionally. We all know that some AW people will not ever consider another brand for example. It is hard to imagine hate mail being generated by asking a question, are we becoming AVSFORUM?
To LegendayLegend - in your settings there is an ignore list that may come in handy to filter out the "hate".
I do not think you have anyting to say you are sorry for, no one was forced to particiate.
HT good point but isn't more better?? (JUST kidding)

 

@OP, If you are getting hatemail through pms, you can also report them to the mod team. There is a report button on the pms for that very reason. While I found the info in your post lacking a bit, there is no reason to send hatemail in my opinion.

Oh and as long as the CPUs are equivalent, I would personally go for the 7970m. That would have been my answer even before knowing the models.

 

No hate here, and HT beat me to an explanation of why we asked a lot of questions.

But anyway, hateful PMs aren't tolerated at all; report whoever's doing that to you to a mod so they can take care of it. You had genuine questions about laptops, so I don't see why anyone should be behaving so negatively about that.

Anyway... In that case I'd choose the Alienware. I've messed around with a friend's M17x once (forget which revision) and an ASUS G73 and while both gamed great, the Alienware felt more sturdy, so I'd trust it to last longer against physical abuse. Though honestly I don't do much computer gaming at all, so personally I'd buy another business laptop .

 

yeah thats what i wanted to see. i just wanted to eliminate brand bias. and i ignored the people that were sending hate mail. im sorry and i should have given better information, and no i am no ignorant i am just new.

 

I think we all know what you were trying to accomplish, and I surely don't condone hate mail, that's absurd. But in any case I hope you learned something from this, lol. There is no way to assess "better" as there is only "best for the individual's need" type of thing. Otherwise throwing up a nVidia vs Radeon card results in flame wars without knowing the full scope of what the machine will be used for, including full specs with CPU, and price. Performance-wise 7970m beats the 670mx hands down. But if you can save some money in the process, and aren't a huge gamer or only play less demanding games, then 670mx would make more sense. If you're into video editing, some beginners think they need a powerful GPU, they don't really. A fast quad core makes the most sense unless the software they use is geared for using the cores of a GPU (GPGPU).

 

Thanks for the cc.

 

Huh? Your poll will not tell you anything whatsoever that would allow you to answer that question. On top of that, you seem to not understand that different people have different requirements.

 

Yes, I sent the OP some "hate mail" rolleyes trying to explain that to him. But later I looked at his post history, and this is his third thread about the 670MX vs the 7970M because he doesn't know whether to buy the Asus or Alienware.

 

If that's the case if he can afford the extra $200 go with the 7970m, much faster card.

 

I'd go with A, since for me the extra $300 wouldn't be worth it for the better GPU. The SSD is sort of nice, but tiny, so I'd consider the 500 GB larger hard drive to be just as good. And the battery life is likely in the same league for both - and probably not very good for either - so that's a wash. A's GPU is about the same power as my desktop's GPU, which is enough to tell me I don't need any higher.

But they're both well above what I'd spend on a laptop. So it's an academic exercise for me.

And the "soft factors" could swing the balance. If B had a matte screen instead of glossy, that would be a plus, and if I felt it were more likely to last, that would also be a plus. Enough to turn the balance? I can't really say since this is too far above what I'd spend.