A big problem

Hi all

I am new and my english is bad sorry, but i have a question.

I would like to upgrading my Asus G60 vx-jx006K with a better CPU. Now i have a P8700 inside. So i buy a Q 9200. But this CPU not working. The CPU is corectly in the Bios but when i start Win 7 or Linux the first picture of the OS is frozen. Why ? I don t understand this. Can Someone Help ? Please


Thanks

 

Your BIOS may not support a quad-core CPU. It may still detect the CPUID but not be able to deal with the addressing of 4 cores. Check to see if you can update your BIOS at all, but you just may not be able to run it.

 

Sounds suspiciously like mobo fail.

 

So I have no chance of running the Q9300?
And is a X9100 faster than a P8700 which runs at 3.1 GHz?

edit; the Bios is up-to-date.

 

well bios might be up2date but the motherboard cant support the quad. better try a cpu from t9xxx series.
a quad core needs more power then a dual and it seems that asus mobo cant deliver it......

 

I get a X9100 cheaper than a T9900. So I think I'll take the X9100 if I've dispensed with even the warranty. (Garrantie seal is broken), a little Untervolting and a few mods, the wheels make it.

The X9100 is still faster than a P8700 which runs at 3.1 Ghz or?

My other Mods you can see here but it is in german but pictures are there.


http://extreme.pcgameshardware.de/tagebuecher/85560-mein-mod-book-status-hilfe.html

 

p8700 is 2.53GHz, not 3.1

 

Realy ^^ look the Picture and enjoy

 

oh, very nice))
Still, x9100 will be faster at 3.1GHz thanks to its larger L2 cache.

 

Yes, I found a safe way to overclock the P8700.

If I Undervolt the X9100 then he sure is cool right?

 

Well ask forge , he had a X9100 undervolted but it was still hotter than a T9900... u're really better off with a T9900 than X9100... u can undervolt more and overclock more too with T9900...u won't really be able to OC X9100 due to way higher TDP...

 

The problem is, I become the x9100 cheaper than a T9900.

 

If you undervolt right the X9100 won't be too bad. However, I'm not looking back from my T9900 sidegrade.

I think I made up a word.

 

I think i test the X9100 and if the Temperatures are to high, i send the CPU back and i use my old one again. And maybe can Help any Mod on my book. And i think the X9100 is realy faster than the P8700 to.

 

A question, did you take the overclock off when you put in the Q9200? if you still had the over clock on that may be what froze the screen..........

 

I didn t OC the Q 9300. When i Start the OS the screen is frozzen. I didn t see the Desktop. The Q9300 isn t compatibel to my Motherboard or the G60 vx with dualcore.

 

You sure that your problem is not OS related?

 

Yes.
1. in the Link from Forge, it is not possible.
2. I tried it with Win 7, Vista, linux without succes.

 

Hi, is it the Qx9300 or Q9200? I know they were saying the Q9200 had some compatability issues, at least with the ES, and Dell's maybe the Asus has an issue as well............

 

It is a INTEL CORE QUAD Q9200 2.40GHZ 12M 1066Mhz. And i cant start any OS. I also wanted to re-install the OS but without success.
And Forge said it my motherboard does not supports Quad CPUs. The bios recognizes it but the motherboard cant control it.

 

Trust me.. with X9100 , u won't be able to undervolt and OC... it just will run too hot.. T9900 is the same.. it will run cooler and u'll be able to OC easily.. its not worth the hassle with X9100.. i would pay the extra and get X9100.. its up to u really..

 

Asus overclocking is done through the OS, so if the OS isn't even loading there's no overclock.

 

do you understand how many times you contradicted yourself in that sentence? its mindblowing.


on topic: for the OP, you should definitely get the T9900. with undervolting (like forge has done) and a nice TIM, it won't be much, if any hotter than the P8700. I had a G51VX-X1A with a P8700 clocked at 3.2ghz which maxed at about the same temp as forge's T9900. the X9100 is completely worthless in most systems because you're being charged extra for an unlocked multiplier- a multiplier which can't be changed on those systems due to bios limitations. Also, I'm 99.999% sure that they didn't change anything fro the G60 to support quads, so there will be no support for them. it uses the same/similar motherboard to the X1A/RX05, and I personally tested a Q9000 and QX9300 on that board with no good results.

 

Hi

@ Forge i don´t use the Asus tool i use Setfsb which is better.

@ EIement That the Q not work, I found out also Unfortunately, when I had it already installed. And I know in the hope that someone here a solution, I have registered here.I now get first the X as the dealer has in stock, not the T9900.If i dont like the X, the dealer sends me the T9900. So i test first the X.

My P8700 runs @ 3,1 Ghz but 3,2 is to high for him and the CPU shotdown.

 

I have upgraded from P8400 to P9700 and the laptop was running a little bit hot, cpu fan was noisy all the time, even on VAIO quiet mode. Then I sold the P9700 and I got a P9600 instead and everything seems too be cool. Most likely your CPU cooling fan+radiator is not designed to cool off anything better than P9600 which is the most powerful from its series that still runs at 25W TDP.

 

oh trust me , T9900 will work... G51 has enough cooling to handle it.. OP just thought of something.. if T9900 is too expensive , why not get T9600 or T9800? they're just slightly slower and u can make up the gap by OCing.. of course if they cost less than X9100 lol.

 

Stop using your computer as an exmaple! It was a laptop touched by God himself.

SetFSB is more powerful, while P4G Hybrid is stupidly easy. Take your pick.

If I were you just go for the T9900 right away.

And since your P8700 is stable at 3.1, why not just keep it?

 

Hi

I need the new CPU against the Q 9200 fail. The Warranthy seal is brocken thatswhy i can´t risk a brocken P8700 against OC. And i think the X 9100 have more power for my favorit Game. I have found a bench from the X9100 and he make @ 3 Ghz more Points as my P8700 with 3,1 Ghz (1,76 Points). And if this CPU are to hot i can become a T9900. So i can test this two CPUs and can make up my mind. And don´t forget my mods.

 

I know the dealer(from a German forum) where you bought the Q9200. He now offers two X9100.
One is a E8435 which is the imac model. It is supposed to run hotter than the original X9100.
Maybe someone knows it exactly.

 

Realy ? Why ? i don´t belive it because Intel dont produse other CPUs only for Appel. And i become a X9100 ES. But i can ask the dealer which CPU is now on the way to me.

 

i hope u bought a proper ES with thermal sensors or if not good luck.. anyways , u shouldn't buy ES... they're illegal and we can't help u here really speaking if u get ES....

 

No thats not right. ES cpus are not illegal. Intel give no suport at his ES CPUs but they are not illegal.

I ask my dealer and he say that he send me a regular X9100.

 

well then ur in the clear and yes ES are illegal.. they are intel property which is given to testers to test and not sell later on... they have to be returned but nver happens...so u are clearly buying stolen stuff if u buy ES... we can argue but this is the fact...

 

The X9100 is here. But this CPU has not more Power as my P8700@ 3,1 Ghz. So I send this part return. The Picture show what I mean with the P8700 I have only 400 Points lower than the X9100 @ 3,35 Ghz.

Has anyone experiences with the asus support and a brocken Warranty seal ?

 

3DMark has more to do with the Graphics chipset than your cpu so it would take a HUGE cpu upgrade to gain any appreciable difference in scores on that benchmark.

 

"broken warranty seal"

What do *you* think that means?

 

basically , he's not supposed to upgrade CPU with warranty.. Asus puts a seal there and if broken , they won't honour the warranty... so basically , good luck to u.

 

actually, even in overall score, 400 points boost is not that bad, since 3DMark, as Sean has already pointed out, is a graphics benchmark and it's CPU tests are rather gaming-specific (physics test, for example).
To get some sort of satisfaction, you might download Sandra, run the benchmarks and see in its charts how your new cpu stacks up against others.

 

I test the X9100 with Prime and become a Time from 16,59 s and the P8700 make the same test in 17,32 s. The different is not realy big. Then I test the CPU with Supcom. The X9100 have the same Problems like the P8700. So i send this CPU back.

The other question is a litle strupid because in Germany we have a other Warranty law. A brocken seal have not many to say. After a half year I must prove that the device is not destroyed by me. So I use the P8700 away up to project X start. then I have a more powerfull CPU.

 

The i7 cores are not all that much more powerful. It is not a night and day type of thing. If you run CoresMark 2010 you will see a marked difference but these all are synthetic benchmarks.

You should not justify an upgrade on synthetics as in real world this can mean little to nothing for your experience. These banchmarks are really only good for optimizing your system for it's best performance and to be taken with a grain of salt when comparing different systems.

I have a 14" U81-a with a P9600 in it. I'd happily stay with the CPU I would like to get though a 14" with 1600x900 instead of the 1366x768 and USB 3.0. Otherwise a P9600 is more than ample for me even at the stock 2.66 GHz.....